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Pre-Surgery Questions

Planning to do this mod in the coming days. Just wondering, are there any downsides? What was the design purpose for the original baffle? Is it mainly an emissions reduction thing? Also, does the bafflectomy change the air flow enough that I'm going to have to remap? Thanks for this write up! Very helpful!
 
The only downside for me is the rumble at highway speed. It hurts your ears! I have yoshi race exhaust (not street legal) shhhh! The debaffled cans sound very similar to the yoshi at low speeds but the air doesn't seem to exit as clean with the debaffled cans.

I would try to acquire a second set to cut up and save the oem cans for your long trips.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Just performed this and had a heck of a time. I too used Milwaukee hole saws and while the 1-1/4 was able to do both sides, the 2-1/8 was so dull by the second side that it wouldn't make it through. I had already been to HD twice (to get saws and then exchange the arbor because I got the wrong size) so I fought through using a 11/32 bit and making multiple holes and filing out chunks.
Once I got that done and had separated the pipe at the weld I again had to fight for a long time to get the pipe out. It was my own fault for not having vice grips. Finally got it done though, just need to clean up the edges a bit more, I didn't have it in me to file anymore. Originally thought I might forgo the cleanup with the magnet and let the exhaust clear itself while running. So glad I didn't do that, a lot of filings came out on that magnet.
Lesson learned... don't try to 'get by' with what you have, buy the right tools. (although the hole saws were all they had). Oh, and I haven't gone for a ride yet, but I like the note at idle. Thanks for the write-up!
 
I'm eager to get it done soon. Wonderful walk-through. One question though, when looking at the pic of the de-baffled can; why are there 3 holes where the welds break and which one does the pipe actually come from? Regardless, it doesn't change anything I was just curious. Ok... Two questions... Does anyone here regret doing theirs?
 
I'm eager to get it done soon. Wonderful walk-through. One question though, when looking at the pic of the de-baffled can; why are there 3 holes where the welds break and which one does the pipe actually come from? Regardless, it doesn't change anything I was just curious. Ok... Two questions... Does anyone here regret doing theirs?
What happens is that 2 of the three holes are open so exhaust goes in and circulates around the back part of the pipe as other exhaust is exiting through the much smaller connecting pipe between that plate and back part that you remove.

And I don't regret it at all! I actually have a stock-stock exhaust that I had to put on when I was painting mine (I took off the front heat shields) and I could barely hear it, which made me a sad panda.

Here's how it sits now:

 
Who knew you could spend an extra hour and get another one of the mid-pipes out :laugh: ?

The last one is much deeper, I didn't have any tools to reach that far, nor did I really want to open up the exhaust that much (at least with not a Power Commander to adjust for the loss in backpressure).

PO of these pipes had cut out the outside ring on the baffles, I just had to cut the inside out and knock them out.

I did notice that they are usually only welded on the sides, exactly east and west, so like this:

|0|

| = Weld
0 = Pipe


So on the second one, rather than trying to pry it out, I just hammered with a long screwdriver against the sides and popped the welds. Hard part was then pulling it back through. Just had to pry the opening a bit to make room and them pull it out.
 

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Just did this mod, am I the only one who had BOTH the tubes fall into the exhaust slightly? The rough weld breaks made it impossible to get them out without a hammer and screwdriver, widening the hole at the back to give them enough room to get out.

My exhaust is still OK right?
 
Very nice writeup - Thanks !
I got a couple of used OEM cans on ebay and will attempt to make them sound a little better than stock....
I fear though that a full bafflectomy will make it too loud an higher RPMs....
I was thinking of just drilling a series of small (5mm) wholes into the end cap....with the thinking that i can control how much rumble I want by increasing the number or diameter of the wholes to let more gases straight out.....
Theoretically....you could then also close some of them again by using properly sized sheet metal screws and spring loaded washers.....

Would this likely work....??

Thanks,
GPW
 
So I tried the drilling on my 2002 919 stock pipes (will keep the ones I ordered for backup)...
I started with one small (1/8th) hole at the top of each end cap and checked the sound. Then I drilled more small holes with in a top half circle (5 on each pipe) and found that increasing the # of small holes will do virtually nothing to improve sound...

So I started opening the wholes step by step - testing it on around-the-block-rides until I reached my personal sweet spot at 5 holes in each pipe with 23/64th diameter each. I think I would have gotten very similar results with just 3 holes at the same diameter (maybe they would need to be a tad bigger to produce the same sound).

The bike now rumbles nicely at idle and makes itself heard at higher RPM without being annoying or expressing any kind of metallic screaming.
 
I did the pipe drill/hole thing on my VTX, ended up at 7 in each, if I recall.
 
Was possibly thinking about doing this mod, does anyone know if the is any performance Benefit, or could its possible hurt performance due to loss of back pressure? Thanks and great write up!
 
Was possibly thinking about doing this mod, does anyone know if the is any performance Benefit, or could its possible hurt performance due to loss of back pressure? Thanks and great write up!
No damage on this mod - aftermarket exhausts are even less restrictive than stock (drilled or not) and folks run those all the time without issue.

You may see some more benefit by putting on a Power Commander with a good map loaded, though.
 
You can spend a lot of money on fancy, schmancy exhaust on a 919, and Satos sound pretty damn good, but not all that much better than the good ol Baffelectomy.
 
That's good to hear. I would like to hear or even ride one with out baffles in person before I make the decision. Lol. With a pc3 would the power gain be comparable to a good exhaust with a pc3?
 
You can spend a lot of money on fancy, schmancy exhaust on a 919, and Satos sound pretty damn good, but not all that much better than the good ol Baffelectomy.
I have to disagree a bit here, I had both on my bike. My Sato's were like ear nirvana. The bafflectomy (I tried both partial and full), was 'ok', but was still 'meh' after knowing what the Sato's sounded like:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYu_y1SP5ic[/ame]

That's good to hear. I would like to hear or even ride one with out baffles in person before I make the decision. Lol. With a pc3 would the power gain be comparable to a good exhaust with a pc3?
PC3 won't give you power gains, exhaust will. PC3 will help smooth the throttle though, and makes the riding experience MUCH better.

Here are some videos of 919's bafflectomized:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=honda+919+bafflectomy

Specifically, if you listen to my video above, then this one, you'll notice the bafflectomy fails to have that 'bark' of the Sato's. Best sound at 1:08 or thereabouts.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mejln17YaY[/ame]
 
I can definitely hear the bark your talking about and how crisp the Sato`s are. I kinda like how deep the bafflectomy sounds in the same hand though lol. I know people say exhaust can gain you 2-7 hp was just curious if the bafflectomy gains any hp or tq.
 
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