[devondunit]

I do hit pegs once and awhile but never my pipe, the cbr 1000 rr headers put it at a good spot, I had to shorten the end and put in an elbow from the 919 stock set to get the angle but it's pretty easy since you can rotate the elbow then tighten the clamp where you want it

 

[devondunit]

Love the braided lines suggestion

 

[devondunit]

It seems like there should be a source out there for used power commanders, isn't there someone out there ripping them out of the wrecked motorcycles and reselling them?..... cheap.....

 

[LDH]

You can get them new for $250... How much cheaper do they need to be?

 

[g00gl3it]

You can get them new for $250... How much cheaper do they need to be?

-$249.

 

[LDH]

ok $249

 

[devondunit]

Point taken, always looking for that sweet deal

 

[Pvster]

You can get them new for $250... How much cheaper do they need to be?

how about an ohlins then for $450? :whistling::hello:

 

[rmb]

how about an ohlins then for $450? :whistling::hello:

Who do you think you are? g00gl3it?

 

[g00gl3it]

Who do you think you are? g00gl3it?

Yeah, c'mon, get real.....:laugh: :whistling:

 

[arctic954]

......I had to buy a used set of SATO rearsets on mine....and raised them up and back.....made a big difference.

As far as the PCIII goes..... I worked for a good tuner for a winter tuning bikes....he worked with groups of cells. So in other words.....you could have the baddest ass box out there with 3,000 tuning cells to mess with.....and NO dyno tuner is going to burn up your bike on the Dyno by doing 200 runs.

The closest by far Ive seen......are the DynoJet Tuning centers that can 'self-tune' your PCIII directly....and then the guy running the show making a couple 'personal' tweaks after the fact.

Because of working with this tuner.....I still had connections to get my 919 tuned through him...... After working through several runs.....we both came to the conclusion that my 919 ran awesome without the PCIII. This was because of my mid-pipe & canister selection.

Your results may vary, but dont expect massive HP improvements.

 

[arctic954]

.......Im back..........

 

[arctic954]

 

[Pvster]

artic, welcome back!

btw, track and street are 2 different things. did you notice any difference between the two while on/off the pcIII?

i haven't had a chance to get on the track yet, but i noticed a difference on the street and for me it was worthwhile. plus the pcIII was free to me so.

 

[Dev]

...we both came to the conclusion that my 919 ran awesome without the PCIII.

Ouch! :whistling:

This was because of my mid-pipe & canister selection.

Disagree. JMO. Too many variables to point to some black magic pipe bend(s).

Your results may vary, but dont expect massive HP improvements.

Thank You. Words of wisdom.

 

[Shreddin Rubber]

I have a pcv being put on my Harley. The only drawback is it's a piggyback type,intercepts the signal going to the ecu and adjusts it,instead of a reflash.
It has many options for purchase. I really like the switch that gives you the option of 2 tunes. One rich for ripping power and another tune that's leaner for highway fuel economy.
Auto tune is a great idea however I think a well written tune by a competent tuner will show more gains.
Jmo

 

[LDH]

Actually the Autotune module is amazing. I did a comparison test of a custom map that I made on the dyno versus what the Autotune could do and the end result was a new map that was in most cases within 1 value or the exact same value as the original map.

It can be used in a closed loop system to do real time adustments all the time, but I strongly recommend against this. It is much better to use the Autotune to create a map then remove the module from the PCV. This way you are not constantly pulling down current to heat the 02 sensor nor do you have to worry about degradation of the sensor causing mapping errors as the more the sensor degrades the more your mapping is going to be off.

I wrote the results of my findings into this article
ROGUE RACING CBR1000RR PC-V Page

 

[mcromo44]

Actually the Autotune module is amazing. I did a comparison test of a custom map that I made on the dyno versus what the Autotune could do and the end result was a new map that was in most cases within 1 value or the exact same value as the original map.

It can be used in a closed loop system to do real time adustments all the time, but I strongly recommend against this. It is much better to use the Autotune to create a map then remove the module from the PCV. This way you are not constantly pulling down current to heat the 02 sensor nor do you have to worry about degradation of the sensor causing mapping errors as the more the sensor degrades the more your mapping is going to be off.

I wrote the results of my findings into this article
ROGUE RACING CBR1000RR PC-V Page

Did you use your know how to instruct the Autotune to target certain A/Fs throughout the overall map area, or did you just let it loose on its own ?
I know very little about the V but I've heard you can somehow instruct it to target A/Fs.

 

[LDH]

It comes preset with various target A/F ratios throughout the entire cell range.

Obviously I have my own standards I wanted to apply so I altered them to match the original target mapping I had done on the dyno.

 

[mcromo44]

It comes preset with various target A/F ratios throughout the entire cell range.

Obviously I have my own standards I wanted to apply so I altered them to match the original target mapping I had done on the dyno.

Pretty much what I figured I'd hear back.
Also.
I see your experiment as being a comparison of your dyno results to what Autotune would come up with, on the basis of already determined A/Fs across the map being used by Autotune as it went about doing its thing.
But this is not to say, nor did you intend to suggest, that simply plugging in Autotune would yield the same results as experienced and skillful dyno based mapping would.
I guess at the end of the day, Autotune will do a fine job for most, but there is still a place for good custom mapping, especially on a race bike or any bike without and oxygen sensor.