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11-21-2008 01:25 PM
Pacojerte
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Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
Ewwwwww.... There's a visual noone needed.
sorry i don't mind dragging knee... just not while its parked...



11-21-2008 12:06 PM
Ridge
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Originally Posted by barton664 View Post
sorry for the thread jack... that little suz is cute but me riding it would look like a great dane on a chijuaha
Ewwwwww.... There's a visual noone needed.
11-21-2008 11:57 AM
2ohno Theres no shame in riding a scooter-
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...6/0/video.aspx
11-21-2008 11:21 AM
Super Sneaky Steve Scooters are like fat chicks. They are fun to ride until your friends see you on one.
11-21-2008 09:35 AM
Pacojerte
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Originally Posted by sike View Post
A bunch of guys in my area are buying scooters for around town, since it is so much easier than a sportbike for around town.
my only problem would be finding hidden undisclosed locations to park it and seeing through the full body camoflage i would wear to keep from being recognized riding one....



11-21-2008 07:12 AM
sike
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Originally Posted by BlackRig View Post
Coming from a business perspective I think 250 is too small. A 5 or 600 is considered "entry level" nowadays. To buy a 250 brand new is not worth the cash, even if it is your 1st.
IDK, my 0.02.
For the most part I agree with you; however, the Ninja 250 has been Kawi's top selling bike for about 20 years (pretty much since day one of its existance). I think a good 250, especially one that gets 75+ mpg, is a great thing for the city folks. A bunch of guys in my area are buying scooters for around town, since it is so much easier than a sportbike for around town. I would much rather ride a motorcycle with a backpack.......
11-20-2008 10:02 PM
BlackRig
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Originally Posted by Super Sneaky Steve View Post
People don't start on starter bikes. They start on 600 super sports or at least an SV650.

I understand it's targeted for a first time rider but I think it will appeal to those who can appreciate a very simple bike. It's crappyness is what I like about it. It's fun to ride a light bike with a twig like frame with crappy breaks and suspention.

It might be the closest thing we can get to a new CB350.
Coming from a business perspective I think 250 is too small. A 5 or 600 is considered "entry level" nowadays. To buy a 250 brand new is not worth the cash, even if it is your 1st. There are many larger cc bikes that are very light and manageable. In the end the 250 is worth nearly nothing for resale. Mostly because everyone views them as starter bikes. They carry a high probability of beeing dropped or damaged and are very quickly outgrown.

My personal advice for a starter is an actual CB350 or some other classic build. I rebuilt a Maxim 550 for my GF and she loves it. $400 Plus I won't get taken on resale.

Then there's the point of a commuter. Want a 250? I would suggest a scooter. Honestly, built in baggage, cheap tires, even better MPG. Cheaper per mile I'm sure. Plus they are made for that purpose. Truly ANYONE can ride that thing... Well, not without looking like a nerd.

IDK, my 0.02.
11-20-2008 07:41 PM
Lone Wolff I guess I'm one of the few that just plain doesn't like it. At all.

If I'm going to spend $3500 on a bike, it will have to be better looking AND better performing than that.
11-20-2008 03:15 PM
Pacojerte
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Originally Posted by cmurphy84 View Post
I got a fixed rate cash advance from US Bank fixed for the duration of the loan at 2.25%. I usually pay about $200 per month to get it knocked out quickly, but at that rate, when Christmas gets closer, I may just pay the minimum of $25 that month so we can have more present money.

My bro-in-law put his 07 600RR on a Suzuki card from our old Honda dealer. First year was low payments, but after that they shot up. He said he has 5 more months until the rate goes from 12.5% to almost 20%. Sad thing is he bought it brand new with nothing down and now owes about $2,000 more than the bike is worth.
yup... seen it a thousand time..

sorry for the thread jack... that little suz is cute but me riding it would look like a great dane on a chijuaha



11-20-2008 03:11 PM
cmurphy84 I got a fixed rate cash advance from US Bank fixed for the duration of the loan at 2.25%. I usually pay about $200 per month to get it knocked out quickly, but at that rate, when Christmas gets closer, I may just pay the minimum of $25 that month so we can have more present money.

My bro-in-law put his 07 600RR on a Suzuki card from our old Honda dealer. First year was low payments, but after that they shot up. He said he has 5 more months until the rate goes from 12.5% to almost 20%. Sad thing is he bought it brand new with nothing down and now owes about $2,000 more than the bike is worth.
11-20-2008 02:15 PM
Lemonhead
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Originally Posted by barton664 View Post
you are exactly correct sir... sub prime bike loans.. it seems that those 3 companies had deals where you could "pay $39 a month for 12 months" and noone noticed that after the 12 months the payment would spike to 300 bucks or so..

hsbc offered a easy to get revolving credit card for honda,suzuki,yamaha,kawa.. and like the housing lending they lent when it was'nt that good a idea and they got screwed by too many people repo'ing at the end of a year...

all of the motorcycle manufacturers bank on the fact that most people don't keep a bike that long.. they trade them in quickly for something faster, shinier, etc etc.... i have customers who traded in thier 07 cbr1000's after 1 month to get a 2008.... people are crazy.. anyway.. hsbc shut off the money tap.. and now suz,kaw,and yam are hurting big time
Wow. That sucks. Even H/D's 88 down/88 month fine print wasn't anywhere near that bad. And it was right on the Flag hanging in the showroom. No need to pop your eyes out reading the contract.
11-20-2008 01:50 PM
riquefied919 I still have my ultra low fixed APR from the big red.
11-20-2008 12:38 PM
Pacojerte
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Originally Posted by Lemonhead View Post
Why the hech would hsbc do that ? Subprime bike loans ?


* Note the foreign spelling of heck.
you are exactly correct sir... sub prime bike loans.. it seems that those 3 companies had deals where you could "pay $39 a month for 12 months" and noone noticed that after the 12 months the payment would spike to 300 bucks or so..

hsbc offered a easy to get revolving credit card for honda,suzuki,yamaha,kawa.. and like the housing lending they lent when it was'nt that good a idea and they got screwed by too many people repo'ing at the end of a year...

all of the motorcycle manufacturers bank on the fact that most people don't keep a bike that long.. they trade them in quickly for something faster, shinier, etc etc.... i have customers who traded in thier 07 cbr1000's after 1 month to get a 2008.... people are crazy.. anyway.. hsbc shut off the money tap.. and now suz,kaw,and yam are hurting big time



11-20-2008 12:29 PM
dadogs
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Originally Posted by PilotRPI View Post
Bring back the CM400T!! Don't even bother upgrading anything on it.

Got a CM250 sitting in the garage with 1060 miles on it, extremely under powered but more fun than you can imagine!



11-20-2008 12:27 PM
dadogs
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Originally Posted by Kristen View Post
Yes, I know. Women on bikes are hot, regardless of the size of the bike.

Dear God.....even if the woman looks like RC90?



11-20-2008 12:27 PM
PilotRPI Bring back the CM400T!! Don't even bother upgrading anything on it.
11-20-2008 11:52 AM
SV650s All it needs are rear-sets and clip-ons!
11-20-2008 11:47 AM
Lemonhead
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Originally Posted by barton664 View Post
they will sell like hot cakes with the exception that suzuki,kawasaki,yamaha all lost their finance sources... hsbc shut them off.... so to buy one of the above brands its cash, or bring your own financing..

believe it or not for the last 4 months the honda rebel 250 has been one of the best sellers down here in south florida.. 85mpg and anyone can ride it..

honda and harley are the only two with their own financing now..
Why the hech would hsbc do that ? Subprime bike loans ?


* Note the foreign spelling of heck.
11-20-2008 11:39 AM
Pacojerte they will sell like hot cakes with the exception that suzuki,kawasaki,yamaha all lost their finance sources... hsbc shut them off.... so to buy one of the above brands its cash, or bring your own financing..

believe it or not for the last 4 months the honda rebel 250 has been one of the best sellers down here in south florida.. 85mpg and anyone can ride it..

honda and harley are the only two with their own financing now..



11-20-2008 11:31 AM
Ripper I can dig it! Nothing like a retro look with todays tech, like Fuel Injection!
11-20-2008 11:31 AM
Lemonhead What else to say but
11-20-2008 11:20 AM
2ohno
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Originally Posted by Kristen View Post
Yes, I know. Women on bikes are hot, regardless of the size of the bike.
Yes, you are correct !!
11-20-2008 11:17 AM
Kristen
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Originally Posted by brevity View Post
That's the sexiest thing I've ever read!!!
Yes, I know. Women on bikes are hot, regardless of the size of the bike.
11-20-2008 11:16 AM
2ohno
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Originally Posted by Super Sneaky Steve View Post
People don't start on starter bikes. They start on 600 super sports or at least an SV650.
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If I had a dollar for every time Ive heard " 600s are for girls " , " Im a big guy so I need a thousand" or " Nah, those 600s are too slow, get at least a thousand " Id retire !
Far too many people are just not educated enough about bikes, i take it as my duty to share the info Ive collected over the years to newbies to help keep them form gettign killed -
11-20-2008 11:09 AM
brevity
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Originally Posted by Kristen View Post
It's perfect for a woman's starter bike.
That's the most sexist thing I've ever read!!!
11-20-2008 11:04 AM
Kristen
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Originally Posted by Super Sneaky Steve View Post
People don't start on starter bikes. They start on 600 super sports or at least an SV650.

.
It's perfect for a woman's starter bike.
11-20-2008 11:00 AM
Super Sneaky Steve People don't start on starter bikes. They start on 600 super sports or at least an SV650.

I understand it's targeted for a first time rider but I think it will appeal to those who can appreciate a very simple bike. It's crappyness is what I like about it. It's fun to ride a light bike with a twig like frame with crappy breaks and suspention.

It might be the closest thing we can get to a new CB350.
11-20-2008 10:55 AM
Kristen

Great starter bike.
11-20-2008 10:34 AM
2ohno Hmm - priced right there with the GZ 250 - could be a good one !
11-20-2008 10:32 AM
Super Sneaky Steve
Cool New Suzuki

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/TU250XK9

I like it. It's cheap as chips, has EFI and a traditional (kinda) look.

I also bet you won't see a lot of people riding them.

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