HD 1200 custom vs Victory Judge - Wrist Twisters
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
HD 1200 custom vs Victory Judge

I am back to riding after 7 years, had a under 500cc Ninja back then. Now my budget is under 15k, and think these two Judge and 1200cc fit the bill, which would be good buy? Though most friends have Japanese bikes - for the value for money, less maintenance realities, i still want to choose between these two American brands - i want to buy american this time. Pointers, suggestions. (I have not test rode either, planning to in a week). Also plz let me know if there is any other under 15k that I should consider.

Thunderbird is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 05:02 PM
Le So Cal Troll
 
nd4spdbh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: So Cal
Posts: 5,766
Rep Power: 1
 
not to be a dick, but why "american"? Buddy just bought a harley and regrets it... no liquid cooling kills it for him its hotter than hell to ride. and most of the victory's i now of had had some sort of issues.

Yamaha, honda, triumph ALLL have better offerings for less money.

nd4spdbh is offline  
post #3 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
Exactly, I understand that. Being in Michigan, liquid cooling hope will not be required. Can you give some pointers on major issues in Victory?

As well what would be the good under 15k cruisers on the Japanese side? I don't want to ride the plastic bikes anymore, I drive a plasticky honda 4 wheeler anyway, i hope u r getting what am getting at.

Thunderbird is offline  
 
post #4 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
I did not know there were Triumph dealers close enough to my house, Since Harley is hardly 2 blocks away, i am a little biased!

Thunderbird is offline  
post #5 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 07:18 PM
Le So Cal Troll
 
nd4spdbh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: So Cal
Posts: 5,766
Rep Power: 1
 
My buddy with the harley lives down here in so cal... it rarely gets above 90 and he has issues riding around... in stop and go traffic actually has to shut the bike down because it overheats.

I see the look you are trying to go for with the Victory Judge.... Honda VTX1800C has a very similar look, and there are MULTITUDE of star (yamaha) motorcycles that have a similar look.

I will say you will get a very biased answer here on this forum as its mainly a Japanese bike fan base, but from my limited experience with the american bikes of harley and victory i would steer clear.

And considering the msrp on a Triumph Rocket 3 roadster is right around 15k you can probably find a 2012 left over at a dealer for much cheaper.... 146hp/163ftlbs ... no harley or victory is going to even come CLOSE... harley's big motor is only making about 70-80hp to the wheel. My buddy with his harley was quite disapointed at that when he got it so he dropped another couple grand in a Cam, exhaust, intake, tuner and tune.

and btw WELCOME to the madness of wristtwisters!

nd4spdbh is offline  
post #6 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 07:33 PM
i appear missing
 
philth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: GTA
Posts: 542
Rep Power: 1
 
that rocket 3 looks pretty bad-ass.
and this is from someone who is not really a fan of that type of bike.







damn.

philth is offline  
post #7 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 08:47 PM
Hastatus Prior
 
TheBeeDeeGee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mobile
Posts: 1,570
Rep Power: 1
 
oh yeah, that rocket III is tasty.

I really like the look of the Victory Judge, but don't know anything about them.


I wouldn't ever give Harley a dime of my money, that's for sure. Well, maybe the V-rod, maybe.

"A motorcycle is not just a two-wheeled car; the difference between driving a car and climbing onto a motorcycle is the difference between watching TV and actually living your life."
-2005 CBR 600 F4i
-2001 RC51 ** SOLD
-2002 VFR 800**SOLD
-2002 919 **SOLD
-2006 599 ** WRECKED
TheBeeDeeGee is offline  
post #8 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
Rocket iii is a little too badass for me, and way much power. I am going to settle with my long term love - thunderbird storm. Thank you for reminding me about triumph!

Thunderbird is offline  
post #9 of 20 Old 05-01-2013, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
*i meant long time

Thunderbird is offline  
post #10 of 20 Old 05-02-2013, 07:19 AM
Hastatus Prior
 
TheBeeDeeGee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mobile
Posts: 1,570
Rep Power: 1
 
Nice man, post some pics when you pick her up!

"A motorcycle is not just a two-wheeled car; the difference between driving a car and climbing onto a motorcycle is the difference between watching TV and actually living your life."
-2005 CBR 600 F4i
-2001 RC51 ** SOLD
-2002 VFR 800**SOLD
-2002 919 **SOLD
-2006 599 ** WRECKED
TheBeeDeeGee is offline  
post #11 of 20 Old 05-02-2013, 07:31 AM
i appear missing
 
philth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: GTA
Posts: 542
Rep Power: 1
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderbird View Post
thunderbird storm. Thank you for reminding me about triumph!
Looks nice as well!
and yeah, pics when you get it!

philth is offline  
post #12 of 20 Old 05-02-2013, 08:44 AM
Brain stolen again?
 
Bigdaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Goleta, California
Posts: 17,148
Rep Power: 1
 
I'm going Victory if and when I settle into a low slung road hog. I'm just smitten by the Victory Vegas models and that's just where my heart lies.

Good luck with the decision.

I said I never had much use for one.
Never said I didn't know how to use it."
Mathew Quigley
Bigdaa is offline  
post #13 of 20 Old 07-23-2013, 05:48 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
Thunderbird is offline  
post #14 of 20 Old 07-23-2013, 05:50 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
..

Thunderbird is offline  
post #15 of 20 Old 07-23-2013, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
Thunderbird is offline  
post #16 of 20 Old 07-23-2013, 08:57 PM
Batman
 
velodesign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Fargo
Posts: 1,053
Blog Entries: 3
Rep Power: 1
 
Ahhh, yes. Thunderbird. My next bike will be this, keep the niner for my kid attitude and lay low and ride easy with a Thunderbird for non challant days.

I may not have a lot to say but it doesn't mean I don't listen.
velodesign is offline  
post #17 of 20 Old 07-26-2013, 06:48 AM Thread Starter
Tirone
 
Thunderbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Detroit
Posts: 9
Rep Power: 1
 
Tbird is a performance cruiser with nimble handling, at sub 40mph it might even outrun a crotch rocket with surplus torque at less than 3000 rpm, especially the storm.

Thunderbird is offline  
post #18 of 20 Old 07-26-2013, 10:25 PM
Batman
 
velodesign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Fargo
Posts: 1,053
Blog Entries: 3
Rep Power: 1
 
Dont get me wrong, the tbird storm would accelerate just fine, im more interested in laying low and just cruising. Any bike over 650cc can accelerate pretty decently in todays world, but i just like the styling

I may not have a lot to say but it doesn't mean I don't listen.
velodesign is offline  
post #19 of 20 Old 08-13-2013, 08:02 AM
Tirone
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Lengby
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 1
 
Sporty vs Judge

A HD Sporty is about the most solid non-issue HD you'll get. They are pretty much issue free. I have a friend that has a Victory Judge. No issues. 106 CI motor is bullet proof - and FAST. It will walk away from the 1200 Sporty any day of the week...if that's what you're looking for. I don't know where people say Victory is a problematic bike. I have heard of "quirks" with some - what bike brand doesn't get a few of those? Shoot, what car brand doesn't get a few of those? Nothing is perfect. The bantering between Harley, Victory, and metric bike owners gets old. Most of the self-proclaimed "know it all's" know little about the bike they are trashing (unless they themselves have had one). Get what fits you - what you like. It's easy for other people to tell you where to put your money down.

highball is offline  
post #20 of 20 Old 08-16-2013, 06:32 PM
Tirone
 
Bengals1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 1
 
I'm on my third victory. Been riding Victorys for the last eight years.i I'm a state and federal BRC instructor and have never had any problems with Victory. I have zero interest to settle for a foreign bike, just because the sticker is less... After negotiating and military discounts the Victorys are priced right, for the segment. My first bike was a HD, nothing bad to say about the brand, just not a fan of the old school look

Bengals1 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Wrist Twisters forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome