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Dear Harley marketing....

While you were pushing out those 883/1200 sporty deals with no money down, I read the fien print and said: " that's actually not a bad deal".

However, your newest "competetive" ad ? Junk. Please don't insult my intelligence. I'll keep my sportbike, thanks.

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Link to "competitive ad"?

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It's a mailer. I'll see if I've still got it floating around. It says something about yadda yadda yadda we'll give you top dollar for your competetive bike on a trade, -- it seems worded at sportbike owners. Lemme see.

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OH ya i saw that add somewhere, LOL'd then got on my 919 and waved at the poor bastards riding hardleys.

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I've gotten those too. If it was truly a competitive trade in offer, I'd be able to ride out with a new Road King and about $30,000 in my pocket to make up for the lack of performance.

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I wish I had a dollar for every Harley I've ever passed.

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I wish I had a dollar for all the gas I've passed. Hell, come to think of it if I did....I could afford two Harley's!

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Dear Harley Marketing,

You should of handled Buell differently.

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Judging by the pissed off looks on most Harley rider's faces riding a Harley must not be fun at all. I wonder if they have any clue that I'm smiling from ear to ear as I go by?

I'm not knocking Harley, I'm glad they are still in business. I wish an American company would make a decent sportbike or standard that I could spend my money on. I just don't want to buy into the idea that you have to look and act like a Billy Bad Ass to fit in with the crowd.

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I just watched their video of "why harley's are better" and they didn't tell me why they are better.

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Dear people who are more concerned blasting other brands than just riding what they want to ride... Do we have insecurities that run so deep that we constantly must try and bash another brand?

Harley Guy did not wave...
Harley merketing is stupid...
Harleys are too expensive...
Waah.......

Dont ride one, dont buy one, dont pay attention to them.

Harley riders are motorcycle riders. Harley Davidson is the only successful American motorcycle company. Harley is the most recognized name of cruiser world wide.

If Harley goes away... so does their riders. Which consist of a lot of Lawyers and Politicians. Lose them from being in your corner and the rest of motorcyclist are potntially screwed.

What else 'American' is considered elite worldwide? (not ford or chevy) I know we have other stuff, but nothing comes to mind right now.
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Great Rant Bloaker.

This board is very Harley unfriendly from time to time.

I take it your a Fruit of the Loom person yourself. Damn Haynes people never wave back.

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I think the current Harley-Davidson story is similar in ways to to what has happened to GM and Chrysler: with all they once had going for them, why haven't they done a lot better? Why are they fluffing the pillows of their death beds as we watch? They have brought their illnesses upon themselves by lack of forward vision and corporate inertia.

The video ("Why Harleys Are Better") accompanying the current Harley-Davidson promotional scheme is a shocking example of this. A Harley-Davidson engineer states that each model they make is different from the other models they make, and so it will feel different to the rider. That's the pitch... a very weak message from a company seeking to attract customers from other brands.

And I like Harley-Davidsons even though I have no reason to own one. Motorcycling is a better sport if Harley-Davidson is a healthy company with impressive bikes to sell. Fans like me might get somewhat critical sometimes when we think H-D could be doing so much better than what we see right now.

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I'm thinking about getting a Harley.
Why not? Looks like a fun ride to me....Must be something to the longevity of the brand.

Plus, I have a friend who buys used Harleys and ships them to Germany. You can get a used one for well under wholesale.
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Maybe I should start a thread about how Charlie Sheen and Micheal Jordan will never convince me to wear a haynes lay flat collar, cause I am too smart...
I'm more of a Jockey and Perry Ellis guy myself.

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What else 'American' is considered elite worldwide? (not ford or chevy) I know we have other stuff, but nothing comes to mind right now.
Actually Ford in Europe is pretty damn cool, and both Ford in GM in Australia have some damn cool cars. But I get your point.

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cool != elite

HD has a 'wow!' factor in many contries, not just a 'hey thats cool' factor.

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Yeah, that "Harley mErketing" sure is stupid.

Harleys would be a lot easier to ignore it they would stay on their side of the road. Here in Indiana, they loooove that yellow stripe.

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Judging by the pissed off looks on most Harley rider's faces riding a Harley must not be fun at all. I wonder if they have any clue that I'm smiling from ear to ear as I go by?

I'm not knocking Harley, I'm glad they are still in business. I wish an American company would make a decent sportbike or standard that I could spend my money on. I just don't want to buy into the idea that you have to look and act like a Billy Bad Ass to fit in with the crowd.

It is funny you mention that -

Last summer, I took a drive to Columbia with my family, and one of my goals was to take pictures of as many riders as I could.

Dozens and dozens of riders, tons of them - and you know what, most were on Harleys, no surprise there.

And when I was reviewing the pictures, the only people smiling were -

NOT RIDING HARLEY'S!

Go figure, I've got the pictures somewhere, not sure what the deal is.

I guess it could be the payments that tick off the owners, or the lack of power, or the ride quality, not sure what it is, maybe they are just trying to be "cool", who knows.

Where are those pictures.....

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When speaking of a sport bike , one must rember, a Sportster is not a sport bike - it is a small displacment cruiser - and thats all it wil lever be - well , now anyway with HD killing Buell anyway - but ,then again, Buells were Buells , not sportsters - lol

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Good post Bloaker, although you'd have to admit that there is some truth to the Harley stereotype.

Generally the dislike, as I understand it, between HD and other riders are that quite a few Harley riders don't buy a motorcycle for the love of motorcycling, but an attitude or lifestyle. There is definately a significant poser factor to quite a few of HD owners. Heck, I just have to ride past the local restaurant and pub strip to see HD's almost parked right up the damn bar counter, just to make sure everyone sees them roll up, and don't forget the obligatory revving of the motor when rolling up to park or starting up to take off.
I do recognise that there are a lot of HD owners that are good riders and are "geniune" rather than posers.

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Dear Bloaker...


I do not like the Harley brand and I am not ashamed to say it. I think the stereotype surrounding Harley is true more often than not. What is the problem with bashing a company that competes with another we like? If I think that the Detroit Lions suck and can't run the football, I'm going to say it because I'm a Colts fan. I think Harley's suck, are underpowered, overweight pigs and the owners spend thousands of dollars on apparel but never ride their bikes more than 1000 miles a year. I bash Hardly because they epitomize almost everything wrong with motorcycling and if you don't like it then ignore threads like this one.



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Good post Bloaker, although you'd have to admit that there is some truth to the Harley stereotype.

Generally the dislike, as I understand it, between HD and other riders are that quite a few Harley riders don't buy a motorcycle for the love of motorcycling, but an attitude or lifestyle. There is definately a significant poser factor to quite a few of HD owners. Heck, I just have to ride past the local restaurant and pub strip to see HD's almost parked right up the damn bar counter, just to make sure everyone sees them roll up, and don't forget the obligatory revving of the motor when rolling up to park or starting up to take off.
I do recognise that there are a lot of HD owners that are good riders and are "geniune" rather than posers.

Lol you all have to watch this episode of Southpark
Don't know what it is called but very funny.


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Harley makes some great bikes if your objective is to ride slowly and in comfort. One of my coworkers has 78,000 on his and it is going strong (how many of us have a bike we bought new that has 78k miles on it?). However, for me, I enjoy riding bikes fast, and haven't found a Harley I enjoy. Also, the Harley riders (newer versions) sure have hurt the image with regards to riders (aka posers).

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Harley makes some great bikes if your objective is to ride slowly and in comfort. One of my coworkers has 78,000 on his and it is going strong (how many of us have a bike we bought new that has 78k miles on it?). However, for me, I enjoy riding bikes fast, and haven't found a Harley I enjoy. Also, the Harley riders (newer versions) sure have hurt the image with regards to riders (aka posers).
FOR sure.... was at the rock store the other weekend and 99.9% of the harley riders were the exactly the stereotype harley rider.... we all were having a nice lunch at the rock store and the harley guys decided to leave. You had the full tatted up dudes trying to look bad ass go over to their bikes and turn them on. Next thing you know you have loud ass radios going then the turning over of their bikes... then you literally could not talk to a person 3 ft away as they sat there with their bikes idling gettin stuff together... then the obligatory rev the motor get on, rev some more then take off.... then peace again. I could not help but laugh my ass off when i saw one dude with some huge ape hanger bars that had a tassel, the lil leather streamer, off the side of his handle bar that literally came to within 4 inches of the ground. I mean come on man you look and sound like a complete idiot, get a freakin life!

That south park episode is so freakin true its not even funny (well its utterly hilarious but you know what i mean)

Click here to watch btw

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What I don't understand... why are they called Harleys. There were 3 Davidsons and only 1 Harley. What a crock. Those Davidsons should rise up.

BTW this one time I rode my friends Harley Fat Boy around. It was a nice ride, good and comfy and made a lot of noise, but everyone looked at me like I had a visible herpes infection as i rode around. Not the best feeling in the world.

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This is true, they go crazy for them over there in Japan, old Chevy's too. My uncle is a motorcycle mechanic in Japan and he's got quite a few Harley's. He used to race sport bikes and motorcross too, but he still loves the Harley's.

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...Harley is the most recognized name of cruiser world wide.

What else 'American' is considered elite worldwide? (not ford or chevy) I know we have other stuff, but nothing comes to mind right now...

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I was making note of a seemingly bad marketing ad. Not the brand itself.
How many times do we complain that HOnda only sends the good stuff to europe?

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