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2006 ST1300 - 12,500$

The dealer down the road has a black 06 with a reduced price of 12,500$. Not to mention the Honda 3.9 financing which doesn't mean a whole lot to me. He did say there was potential to bring the price down more. Selling my 2006 919 for 4k plus, it really makes a person consider. This would be a great touring and 2-up machine.

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If he give you $5k for your bike and drops the ST to $11.5K at 3.9%. I'd say get it ... if you're looking for a very comfortable bike that can still hold its own in the twisties!

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730lbs?
only if you are for sure hitting the open road, if so...then yeah

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I had an 04 st1300, it's a great bike and very comfortable for touring get a Givi top box and you can carry everything you need. I got the st for 2up riding then the wifer decided to get her own bike so I had no need for such a big bike 730lbs is alot for around town and parking lots. You'll be surprised how well it handles for a big bike and 2-up it does a nice job keeping you both comfy. Alot of wind protection as well. going from the st to the 9ner or the other way around is a big change make sure your ready for it.

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With your CL360 and the S3 in the garage, it makes sense to me. Go for $11,250 w/ your trade in @ $5K and ride away smiling.

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A buddy of mine used to have one. Got an FJR and said he likes that bike alot better.

It is a Honda though.

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There's an '06 ST on craigslist locally, 10k miles, asking $10,500. Sounds like that new one is sweet deal, black looks great too. I've been considering one myself, would go check out the used one if it wasn't in Elkhart 3 hours away from Indy.

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I had an 07 ST, after 4000 miles I kinda figured out it was alot closer to a Goldwing than a Blackbird, took all day long to clean it. Was a nice bike and all just wasn't me sold it couple months back.

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yeah it's more of a baby Wing than a sport bike with bags. i did get to ride one from ATL to Nashville with my girlfriend on the back. Was very comfy and handled the mountain roads with ease. it is definitely an adjustment tho. offer them 11k and see where they go. if they drop significantly, there's still a few hundred left you can pry out of them for a two year old bike.

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It's a sweet sport tourer. Way better than the 919 for 2-up and long rides (like the one you just did to Florida with Ridge). It's not going to be as nimble or corner as well but that's the tradeoff I guess.

I'm considering a sport tourer myself. Here's my short list:

1. Yamaha FJR
2. Honda ST1300
3. Kawi Concourse (the new one)


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I had an 07 ST, after 4000 miles I kinda figured out it was alot closer to a Goldwing than a Blackbird, took all day long to clean it. Was a nice bike and all just wasn't me sold it couple months back.
To think of it ... for the price of you trade. You can find a nice clean used XX, put Corbin seat, passanger backrest, and saddlebags. Great all-around bike. If not the best bang for the buck. Not that I'm biased?

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To think of it ... for the price of you trade. You can find a nice clean used XX, put Corbin seat, passanger backrest, and saddlebags. Great all-around bike. If not the best bang for the buck. Not that I'm biased?
Goldwing... ... Blackbird
FJR's and Kawi's won't pick on a Goldwing cause of its mass and most likely won't catch a Blackbird, wish I still had mine now........

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Goldwing... ... Blackbird
FJR's and Kawi's won't pick on a Goldwing cause of its mass and most likely won't catch a Blackbird, wish I still had mine now........
I wasn't very fond of the the FJR, just didn't do it for me when I had one for a day. The Kawi C14 is on the radar screen and have been offered to take one out for a spin when I get the chance. The XX still had better ergos to me? Or, I'm just use to it. I was hoping for a bit more leg room.

The ST is lovely and spacious! Not an only bike option for me though. Where an XX can be a single, do it all, bike option.

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Since you have the speed triple in the garage for your hooligan bike, why not get the ST if you get a good deal on it?

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730lbs?
That's the much lower dry weight. I straddled one and nearly sprained my ankles....

Granted it would gobble up the freeway miles.

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Well, since you have a S3, go for it!

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I think the genre you are looking at is a perfect fit for your garage.

I wish I could say Triumph had something to compete in this category, but this is kind of the plush ST group. The Triumph ST is more of a sport than plush. -- so with that said....

Tell me what dealer you are talking to.

I know someone we may be able to call and try to work a deal......

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I think the genre you are looking at is a perfect fit for your garage.

I wish I could say Triumph had something to compete in this category, but this is kind of the plush ST group. The Triumph ST is more of a sport than plush. -- so with that said....

Tell me what dealer you are talking to.

I know someone we may be able to call and try to work a deal......
Help a brother out! Been talk to "Jay" at cycle world. I'm sure you know him.
Lets take a look at it next week if you have time.

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I do know Jay.
talk to me before you sign any deal with him.

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I'd probably sell my 919 first by local craigslist first. Then try to strike a deal. If I do move forward on this it will probably take awhile. Guess this is the right time of year to be selling the 919 if I wanted to do it.

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Woops read the fine print, 730# is the wet weight.

The spec that concerns me most for 2up is panic stop braking distance. Amazingly I can't find a braking comparison study on all STs. I have been so very impressed with the 9r's ability to pancake flatten my passenger into my back. This unusual characteristic has saved our bacon more times than I care to remember. Unfortunately an extra 250# will not improve this vital statistic.

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Went down to the local dealer yesterday, sat on both the FJR and the ST. The ST seemed huge in comparison, but extremely comfortable. The FJR felt like a large sportbike, but more upright. Need some better weather to start test riding, not too exciting to just sit on them and then make a post about just sitting on them.

Hey, wanna hear about yesterday when I sat on a motorcycle?

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Hey, wanna hear about yesterday when I sat on a motorcycle?
Sadly you have more experience than some posting about the topic!

I "sat" on the concourse and was surprised. I liked it a lot.

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A couple of new '06's on Ebay for under 11K...maybe just a point of reference

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...em290215211774

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...em300204365156

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This one is located in Elkhart, IN...http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/mcy/574902486.html

I wrote the owner and received this response:

It has 10000.00 miles on it. 1 year warranty left. Purchased for 14500.00 all storage and winterizing done professionally by North E nd Cycle. I am the original owner. Just bought a sequoia and want to cut some expenses. I added a Ram mount for it for either a gps or a camera. Up to you at 10500.00 it comes with the New Tomtom rider 2 Gps system and that will come with the car mount too. If you don’t want the GPS I’ll cut the price by 500.00. Brand new rear tire. Caught a nail in the old one last year. Before storage. All oil changes and maintenance are current. If you want me to show it to you call 574-524-0923. In storage now. Just got ready for summer with New Battery. Ready to go. David.
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Well... I stopped in cycle world today to check it out......

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My impressions - that is their price right now to unload.
If you offed that exact amount OTD, I bet they would try to explain they do not make that much on bikes, yadda yadda....
then try to strike a deal.

My experience at that shop has not been stellar and I do not trust them much.
Get everything in writing up front.
They do not want to tall you a finalprice until after you have committed.

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Woops read the fine print, 730# is the wet weight.

The spec that concerns me most for 2up is panic stop braking distance. Amazingly I can't find a braking comparison study on all STs. I have been so very impressed with the 9r's ability to pancake flatten my passenger into my back. This unusual characteristic has saved our bacon more times than I care to remember. Unfortunately an extra 250# will not improve this vital statistic.
The ST comes with ABS doesn't it?

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The ST comes with ABS doesn't it?
Yes and that's awesome for slippery conditions (probably would have prevented my gravel fall) if the driver over applies brakes. But ABS doesn't change the F=MA limitations of physics. 250# more weight==longer stopping distance. Considering the too many crazy distracted cages, I'd rather have the best braking performance 2up and compromise ST comfort.

The Cali Sheriffs have sweet ST1300 all B/W decked out! But they never ride 2up.

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ABS is an option. You can get it either way.

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Either ST will stop good, just remember the heavier the bike, longer it takes to stop.

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Yes and that's awesome for slippery conditions (probably would have prevented my gravel fall) if the driver over applies brakes. But ABS doesn't change the F=MA limitations of physics. 250# more weight==longer stopping distance. Considering the too many crazy distracted cages, I'd rather have the best braking performance 2up and compromise ST comfort.

The Cali Sheriffs have sweet ST1300 all B/W decked out! But they never ride 2up.
the ST's have Honda's linked break system if i recall correctly. I had no problems stopping short 2-up on my 500 mile romp.

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the ST's have Honda's linked break system if i recall correctly. I had no problems stopping short 2-up on my 500 mile romp.
It's personal preference, but I'd rather do all the brake processing and consider more variables than the current systems.

Here's an article where they measured the ST1300 stopping 60mph-0 distance solo @ 124'. 2up plus gear extra weight further increases that distance. On the 9r I enjoy stoppinp ~20' shorter. Several close calls I thought it was over (as I would have been on my previous heavier bike), but avoided the obstacle! The key on any bike is always looking ahead and predicting the panic stop to avoid them.

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San Jose PD gave the moto contract to Honda and they are now getting in some of the ST's... good looking cop bike that's for sure...


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unfortunately you can not purchase the police package (that i am aware of).
If you were not doing any two up riding, the police package would be great.

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unfortunately you can not purchase the police package (that i am aware of). If you were not doing any two up riding, the police package would be great.
Then Honda is ignoring a ton of biz! That ride is perfectly configured with lots of water sealed integrated storage. Solo configured provides an excuse NOT to ride 2up. That ride would gobble up road miles in any weather (wind/rain).

Got tossed around on the 9r two up Sunday with 50mph gusts. Would have been very challenging solo, but would not have noticed the wind on a ST1300.

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I wouldn't buy a new Honda till around September to see what's new for 09!

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