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post #1 of 68 Old 02-22-2009, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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Appointment set for Wednesday to go see the old lady's barn full of stuff. I keep learning tidbits of information from my friend, he's found out the Bridgestone motorcycle is a 1970, doesn't know what model. The other bike is a Honda Dream, don't know what year. Supposedly she wants $500 for both, don't know condition or any other details.

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Mmmm, love the Dream! What a classic!

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sweet...hope its worth the trip.. all that empty space in your warehouse needs filling up..



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The 305 Dream is funky but cool.


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Wonder what they're worth? Neither has ran for years, but $500 doesn't sound out of line for a couple of vintage bikes if they're complete and in halfway decent shape.

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The Bridgestone is not worth much however the Honda might be a gem in the rough. All depends on condition as you found out with the CB550.

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MisterMike, I may be calling for advice when I go to check them out. I'm actually more intrigued by the Bridgestone just because it's offbeat and weird, the Dream is funky cool but not my style.

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Don' know squat about the Bridgestone except what I've read here. Common sense will prevail. Call me...

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Take your camera for us ! Sounds like you might have something here that ive heard abotu alot , but, yet to find myself, a barn bike ! Keep us posted !

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we can split it scott... I'll take the dream and you; the bridgestone plus a small finders fee!

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A close friend of mine came across a great deal on a barn bike. He got given a 1973 Yamaha TX 500, all he had to do was come get it! The story is the bike got parked in the barn(more like a large shed) 18 years ago and just was forgot about. The bike had less than 5000 miles on it, was parked on its center stand and the fuel was drained from the fuel system. All it needs is some new tires(old one still hold air!) a carb rebuild and some polish and its good to go.

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A close friend of mine came across a great deal on a barn bike. He got given a 1973 Yamaha TX 500, all he had to do was come get it! The story is the bike got parked in the barn(more like a large shed) 18 years ago and just was forgot about. The bike had less than 5000 miles on it, was parked on its center stand and the fuel was drained from the fuel system. All it needs is some new tires(old one still hold air!) a carb rebuild and some polish and its good to go.
i don't know your buddy ... but i don't think i like him very much...lol...

j/k.... i like hearing about lucky people who find diamonds amongst the cow patties...



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Scott,
My husband had a Bridgestone 175. He has nothing but good things to say about it. Let me know if you need any info, sounds like it has some real unique features.
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Good luck on the Barn Bikes Scott, and heck half the fun is in the looking anyway.

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I'm hoping the Bridgestone is either the 175 Scrambler or the 350GTR, we shall see. I'm curious about the Dream, have never really checked one out. Guess this lady's husband was a pack rat who collected anything and everything, wonder what else might be stashed away in that barn?

The anticipation is killing me!

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Ok, just talked to my friend and we're going to the barn this afternoon instead of Wednesday. He says the Bridgestone looks very complete and has title, the Dream is missing the seat and emblems, no title.

More to come....

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you have vintage fever!

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Vintage Fever Rules!


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A few more details learned this morning....

She has 6 buildings full of her deceased husband's collected stuff. She's already sold 20 vehicles, several more still for sale. Only the two motorcycles, but I'm extremely curious what else I might uncover there. The Dream is missing several pieces, maybe just a parts bike since it doesn't have a title. The Bridgestone is a 2 stroke, which I know nothing about.

Appointment set for 1:30pm today. Camera ready, cash in pocket.

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Sweet ! I cant wait to hear about this --

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More details of the fever please!


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I must have missed what happened with the FL bike - did the proximity to Barton wig you out?????

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Nah, Florida CB550 was really rough in person.

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The Dream is missing several pieces, maybe just a parts bike since it doesn't have a title.
If you want to be able to legally drive the Dream I can probably help you out. In Georgia they do not issue Titles on any vehicles over 15 years old, and other states must honor that law when there are vehicle transactions from state to state. Once it was up and running I could get it registered here, and then do a bill of sale to you, and Indiana would be required to honor the bill of sale, and register the bike for you in Indiana.

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I must have missed what happened with the FL bike - did the proximity to Barton wig you out?????
he was a looooonnnngggg way away...



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Ok, here's the scoop...

The Honda is not a Dream, best I can tell it's a 1965 or 66 CB77 SuperHawk 305. If anyone can decode the VIN better then me, please let me know...

VIN Decoder: http://www.vjmc.org/techtips/carbondating.htm



It's extremely rough, missing lots of parts...





Not sure it's much more than a parts bike at this point, it's a long ways from looking like this...



The Bridgestone however is a complete original bike. It's a 1970 Mach-II RS 200cc. Appears to be all there with no missing parts, chrome is rusty but I think it would clean up pretty good overall. I have no idea what it's worth, anyone?









She says the Bridgestone ran when it was parked, which was maybe 25 years ago. She wants to sell both bikes together for $500. I'm not familiar with 2 strokes, don't know what's involved in making one run that has sat for over two decades. The bigger question is still if there's a market for it or any value other than saying I have one in my collection.

Opinions from all you vintage guys out there?

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Wow, the old B-stone looks pretty good ! Its not a big awful deal to get an old 2 stroke runing again, even if you have to rebuild thw whole motor , as long as the cases are good and 9 out of 10 they are. Very,very simply machines --
As for getting parts, Id suggest you pick u pa copy of Walneck Classic cycle trader, there always good info in there , with many NOS/replica parts suppliers listed in every issue- Then there is always searching the googles - http://www.bridgestonemotorcycle.com/parts.htm

As for the Honda, there always folks looking for pieces parts, looks like there would be some good stuff to be had, or even cafe it out --??

This is a hard call, not sure of what the Bstone would be worth restored and not sure if the Honda would be worth getting going or even parting out -

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Looks about 300 dollars too much...

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its only 500 bucks...
That's kinda what I'm thinking, just need some reinforcement and some idea what that Bridgestone might be worth, haven't had much luck finding any comparable examples online.

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Eesh, I'd leave the old Honda rather than dealing with the pain of it all and take the Bridgestone for a bit less...that one looks to have potential for a fun project.

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Eesh, I'd leave the old Honda rather than dealing with the pain of it all and take the Bridgestone for a bit less...that one looks to have potential for a fun project.
It's an all or nothing deal, $500 and have to take both bikes.

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I think she should pay you a couple of hundred $$ just to remove them.

Seriously: The Honda might have a few if any salable parts and the Bridgestone IMO has no worthwhile value unless you are looking for a offbeat obsolete MC to be different.

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Well I just searched back through several years of classified ads on the VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club) website and only found 2 Bridgestones for sale, none of this model. I'm sure somewhere out there is an enthusiast who would be very excited about this original barn bike.

I did see a couple of SuperHawk gas tanks listed for around $100, so there might be a small amount of money to be made off that shell of a bike.

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I think she should pay you a couple of hundred $$ just to remove them.

Seriously: The Honda might have a few if any salable parts and the Bridgestone IMO has no worthwhile value unless you are looking for a offbeat obsolete MC to be different.
+1, Albeit that a two stroke is generally a very easy engine to get running the chances of finding parts for the old girl would probably be very frustrating. If you are the type of guy who can see potential in nothing I would say take on the challenge. Knowing, from what I heve seen from you here, you seem to be a little more realistic. Both bikes would most likely amount to two piles of nothing worth much. Sorry it was not a more productive trip.

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+1, Albeit that a two stroke is generally a very easy engine to get running the chances of finding parts for the old girl would probably be very frustrating. If you are the type of guy who can see potential in nothing I would say take on the challenge. Knowing, from what I heve seen from you here, you seem to be a little more realistic. Both bikes would most likely amount to two piles of nothing worth much. Sorry it was not a more productive trip.
then again... look at that awesome machine that jetblast put a link to...here is is... the one where it makes 3d perfect copies of parts so they can be machined... you can either buy one of those or get jay leno to loan you his



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I just tracked down the main Bridgestone motorcycle expert and parts supplier in the US, Richard Clark, who just happens to be located in Indiana.

http://bridgestonemotorcycleparts.com/index.php

I gave Richard a call and he was very helpful and full of information. He says the 200 was a fast bike and quite reliable, good brakes for its time. Not a big market out there for them but a perfectly restored model might be worth $2-3000 to the right enthusiast. He has most common restoration parts available, said chrome is expensive and it wouldn't be hard to run up a couple thousand dollars replacing rubber and trim. Says the engine most likely doesn't need much other than cleaning, odometer only shows 6700 miles.

Richard said a nice RS 200 is worth more than a Dream but less than a SuperHawk. I appreciated talking with an expert, still don't know if it's worth $500 to me though.

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then again... look at that awesome machine that jetblast put a link to...here is is... the one where it makes 3d perfect copies of parts so they can be machined... you can either buy one of those or get jay leno to loan you his
The problem with a 3D copy machine is you still have to figure out how to make the part out of steel. They are great for prototyping or creating a casting pattern, but there is plenty of work to do beyond that. You will need Leno to loan you his entire shop.

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Scott,

The Superhawk is a wash.. if you want to mess with parting it out??? I don't have time for that.

The Bridgestone has about $400 to $600 minimum worth of chrome work to be done but is a complete bike.

Here's my rule. 90% to 95% complete with chrome that can be cleaned up expect $1500 invested into paint and the extra parts and you will have a 10 footer.

Rechrome and add another couple of hundred trying to get new or replating of bolts (and add several hundred dollars more). I would figure $3K if things go well with the motor.


If it is your passion do it.

If you have to spend $500 to keep getting barn leads and to keep us on the edge of our seats then I say it is an excellent expenditure of YOUR money.

The Bridgestone is cool but for $3K (and you know I am partial to Hondas) you could have a restored CB550-4.

The Lord knows I love the excitement of pulling up to the barn....

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