Z1000 vs CB1000R in this month's Visor Down - Wrist Twisters
 
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post #1 of 19 Old 05-21-2010, 03:07 AM Thread Starter
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Z1000 vs CB1000R in this month's Visor Down

Decent little comparo. Nice photos.

Why doesn't Kawie paint their's Kawie Green, and why doesn't Honda paint their's "Winning Red"? Any good Photo Shop Guys out there?

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Don't think we get the mag here. What was the outcome? Checked online, I guess it will be a while before it makes it on the web version of the magazine.

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http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...1000/8857.html

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-...tml#historysub

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What was the point of the test? We only get one of those bikes in the US Market right now so if the CB1000R (can someone say DREAM BIKE!!!!) won we still won't be able to run out and buy one. It is the same deal that the 919 had designed in Italy for the Euro market. If they bring it over here even with the Euro being down right now it is still an unfavorable exchange rate and they won't make money off of it causing a run of one year maybe two. For whatever reason American riders (as a whole, not us lucky few) still won't embrace the naked sport bike. My heart will race, I will jump for joy, and I might get a divorce if they ever brought the CB1000R to America.
Note: Last time I read something on the CB1000R was a few months ago so if they have approved it for the US Market then my rant is now entirely void.

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It's a British magazine. They get a lot more cool stuff because they buy the cool stuff. Americans buy Harleys and quads.

I don't know where they get their HP and torque figures, I'm guessing from the manufacturere. And they're probably getting their optimisstic #s at the crank, but Kawie is 138 and 83, the Honda 125 and 71.

The Kawie mad better power. The Honda is a nicer bike.

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Those are crank figures for both bikes. The Z is dynoing around 125 RWHP and 75 ft lbs of torque.

I picked up a 2010 Z1000 and couldn't be more happy with the choice. Lots more reading material here:

Z1000 Read all about it - Bunch of reviews
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/2010MarComp.pdf - Comparo to the FZ1 with an excellent data sheet at the end.

Even if the CB1000R were available here this year, it would have been an easy choice. Gotta give Kawasaki a lot of credit for making a dedicated engine for their naked rather than a retuned SS engine. It might cost more, but the dyno charts speak for themselves.

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What color combo did you go for? I had my eye on a Pearl Stardust White w/ red accents. I was going back and forth between that and a ER-6n but then I discovered the 919 half the cost of a Z1000, about the same or cheaper than a new ER-6n. Those figures made my choice pretty damn clear. Still, I love the way the new Z1000 looks.

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Does anyone really think those rims look good?!

Hardly in the market for a current-model bike but I'd rather have 5 spoke wheels on the honda.

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I picked up a 2010 Z1000 and couldn't be more happy with the choice.
Feel like letting a "neighbor" test that thing out?

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Both available in New Zealand. Plus you can get the Kawa in vivid Kawasaki green - looks stunning, and that's from a black bike fan.

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I wonder if that Honda is an oil burner like brother 1000rr....?

That'll work........
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I wonder if that Honda is an oil burner like brother 1000rr....?
Nope - no reports of it.

And the RR was a select year and model run - dud rings apparently. Shit happens - pick a brand and I'll find you a model that had problems.

Suzukis oil burning Bandits spring to mind immediately .........

Aprilia had failures on the first set of V4's

yada yada

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Feel like letting a "neighbor" test that thing out?
A neighbor that I know? Probably. :P

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What color combo did you go for? I had my eye on a Pearl Stardust White w/ red accents. I was going back and forth between that and a ER-6n but then I discovered the 919 half the cost of a Z1000, about the same or cheaper than a new ER-6n. Those figures made my choice pretty damn clear. Still, I love the way the new Z1000 looks.
I went with Black. Most people are getting the white/orange model, but it was a bit "louder" than I wanted. Tough to go wrong either way.

The 919's a pretty good middle ground between those two bikes. I came from a Honda 599, myself.

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I went with Black. Most people are getting the white/orange model, but it was a bit "louder" than I wanted. Tough to go wrong either way.

The 919's a pretty good middle ground between those two bikes. I came from a Honda 599, myself.
I saw the black a while back. I would definately go with black.

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I love it. Went on a group ride yesterday and got a lot of compliments from folks who didn't know what it was (I removed the badges). An older fella pulled up to a gas station on a sweet old Norton and walked directly over to talk about it.

While I love to say that I don't give a crap what other people think, I'd be lying if I said I didn't appreciate the remarks. And, so much as I like having a unique bike, I hope sales pick up for the Z.

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What model/year norton was he on?

What do you think of the exhaust? Most people seem to hate it but I think it adds character to the bike.

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I'll be honest - I didn't ask. No excuse there. Wasn't a new one, that's for sure.

The exhaust has grown on me quite a bit. I'm not going to say that I won't eventually replace it, but I certainly don't find it offensive. I'm definitely not planning to replace it. The intake sound is fantastic.

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I understand you got caught up talking about your bike. More than likely it was a Commando. Everyone wants a Norton Commando. Kind of glad I had an Atlas.

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Mmmm. I'm not familiar with the Norton models at all - but it certainly looked more like an Atlas than a Commando. Had a yellow frame and black tank.

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