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post #1 of 25 Old 10-29-2008, 05:42 AM Thread Starter
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As the title says, i've decided to spend a couple of bucks on my 9'r. I am going today to pick up my renthal lows and throw them on. I had a set of the renthal mediums and it just didn't do it for me so I took them off and put the stockers back on. I am thinking that this will be a good move.

I also have a set of mirrors from a silver wing that I will put on there. Odd thing is tho that when I got home and got to looking at them, they gave me 2 right mirrors (even tho the part number on the outside of the bag is for the left mirror).

Next thing is that in a couple hundred miles i'll need to change my oil. I was thinking of picking up some amsoil 10w-40 today, any comments on this fine product? I used it in a little rebel I had once and it was a night and day difference. The harley I had once that I used it in I couldn't tell, it still shook my fillings out of my teeth.

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post #2 of 25 Old 10-29-2008, 04:12 PM
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I read an article on Amsoil, It gave a Harley on the dyno 2-3 hp more, and the engine never reached the testers required engine temp. Three other oils were tested also but made no difference!
Make sure the engine is run in before switching oil. I think they recommended regular oil changes at 35000 intervals. Yes 35 thoouusand!!!

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I read an article on Amsoil, It gave a Harley on the dyno 2-3 hp more, and the engine never reached the testers required engine temp. Three other oils were tested also but made no difference!
Make sure the engine is run in before switching oil. I think they recommended regular oil changes at 35000 intervals. Yes 35 thoouusand!!!
are you serious??? thats why that stuff is 90 a gallon!!!!!

so you change it every 35,000 miles???



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I read an article on Amsoil, It gave a Harley on the dyno 2-3 hp more, and the engine never reached the testers required engine temp. Three other oils were tested also but made no difference!
Make sure the engine is run in before switching oil. I think they recommended regular oil changes at 35000 intervals. Yes 35 thoouusand!!!

WOW, Phobman, what the h**l are you smokin????

Amsoil recommends you double the OEM recommendations for their oils! Same with their filters. Last time I checked Honda wanted it changed more frequent than every 17,500 miles, correct me if I'm wrong here!!!! I do agree with making sure it is run in somewhat, at least 4 or 5 thousand would be my suggestion.


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amsoil is the stuff man, bar none, get it, use it, love it





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and it aint 90 bucks a gallon, i think i paid 30, not sure, i also bought their filter, and did the oil in my civic too, ill look for the invoice, but compared to mobil one, or repsol, i would choose the amsoil again in a heartbeat.


oh yeah, barton, phobman is correct on the oil change interval, but im gonna do mine at 25,000, once a year deal.

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Amsoil does have a high mileage claim to some of their oil. It is good stuff. I would believe that its properties won't breakdown, but I would still worry about contamination.

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OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

Just compare someone to Hitler and get this thread over with!

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I haven't used the Amsoil yet but I plan to put it in the GS1000 at next oil change. The tester figured that the lack of friction in the engine was why the Harley never reached operating temp. and why it picked up 2-3 hp.
Two of the other oils he tested were also synthetics, a Harley oil, and a Royal purple, the third was Mobil one! (is that also synthetic?) They reached operating temp easily. The Harley makes a good test platform, as it's air cooled, lots of friction areas, and primitive engineering!

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Is that glue I smell in here? Are you guys sniffing the stuff again?

I have never changed my oil at 3,000 and not had it be MUCH darker than when I put it in! That's DIRT! I don't care if the oil won't break down FOREVER you aren't gonna keep the dirt out! I'm flushing mine at 5,000 to 6,000 regardless! Cheap insurance! Not changing your oil for 25,000 to 35,000 is just downright neglect and disrespectful as far as I'm concerned! I love my bike!!!!!


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well i use ams oil now it is very nice big difference in everythinig bike even idels quieter, zook and i have been changing our oil every 3-4 thousand miles, does any one know if that can be bad for the engine?

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i am gonna give amsoil a try... i have 3300 on my 07 do you think its too soon to try the full synthetic??



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i am gonna give amsoil a try... i have 3300 on my 07 do you think its too soon to try the full synthetic??
I would suggest you wait till you have at least 5000 on it!


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Is that glue I smell in here? Are you guys sniffing the stuff again?

I have never changed my oil at 3,000 and not had it be MUCH darker than when I put it in! That's DIRT! I don't care if the oil won't break down FOREVER you aren't gonna keep the dirt out! I'm flushing mine at 5,000 to 6,000 regardless! Cheap insurance! Not changing your oil for 25,000 to 35,000 is just downright neglect and disrespectful as far as I'm concerned! I love my bike!!!!!
Gotta agree here Woody. Don't care HOW GREAT any oil is, I wouldn't be comfortable leaving it in longer than 2-3000 miles. Dirt, clutch particles, metal particles, fuel - all kinds of pollution accumulate in there. Just the nature of the beast.

Consistently clean oil = motor longevity

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A big independant company did oil change research years ago on the N.Y. cabs, and determined that 7000 miles was the most economical interval for oil changes. Weighing engine life against mainenance costs, and that was before synthetics!

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Everybodys talking AMSOIL around here! See my signature...

Double the manufacturers recommended interval. NOTHING last 35000 miles.

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I would suggest you wait till you have at least 5000 on it!
+1 wait untill 5k.

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Everybodys talking AMSOIL around here! See my signature...

Double the manufacturers recommended interval. NOTHING last 35000 miles.
Thanks for having my back here Ricko2!! I appreciate the professional rationalism! I know thats what my rep says PERIOD.

Maybe you can clear this question up for me, here is a question I submitted to Amsoil and the response following!

"I recently became a preferred member and have a question regarding your synthetic motorcycle oils. Are your oils in fact 100% synthetic? I had a discussion with a shop owner this week about Amsoil and Repsol oils and he told me that he was told by the Repsol rep that unless the container has "100% Synthetic" on it that it was NOT 100%? I did look at the Repsol container and it did have 100% Synthetic right on the container!! Thanks."

"Woody:

AMSOIL does this labeling a little differently. If our oil is not 100% Synthetic, we label it as “Synthetic Blend” or “Semi Synthetic”. See AMSOIL PCO, 15W40 oil for an example.

Thank you for this opportunity to respond to your question(s). As always, please feel free to contact us again if we can be of further assistance.

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Ricko2, I was really just looking for a "Yes Woody, our oil IS 100% synthetic" !
So IS my 10W40 Amsoil Synthetic Motorcycle Oil in FACT 100% Synthetic????


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Thanks for having my back here Ricko2!! I appreciate the professional rationalism! I know thats what my rep says PERIOD.

Maybe you can clear this question up for me, here is a question I submitted to Amsoil and the response following!

"I recently became a preferred member and have a question regarding your synthetic motorcycle oils. Are your oils in fact 100% synthetic? I had a discussion with a shop owner this week about Amsoil and Repsol oils and he told me that he was told by the Repsol rep that unless the container has "100% Synthetic" on it that it was NOT 100%? I did look at the Repsol container and it did have 100% Synthetic right on the container!! Thanks."

"Woody:

AMSOIL does this labeling a little differently. If our oil is not 100% Synthetic, we label it as “Synthetic Blend” or “Semi Synthetic”. See AMSOIL PCO, 15W40 oil for an example.

Thank you for this opportunity to respond to your question(s). As always, please feel free to contact us again if we can be of further assistance.

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Ricko2, I was really just looking for a "Yes Woody, our oil IS 100% synthetic" !
So IS my 10W40 Amsoil Synthetic Motorcycle Oil in FACT 100% Synthetic????
I can't find any documentation that clearly says 100%. I believe it is, but let me look in to it.

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(10-40 synthetic)$32.40 a gallon for dealer/preferred customer.

All the automotive oils are listed at 100% synthetic & the motorcycle oil isn't.

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yer 100% correct mikey, they are not listed as 100% in their literature, i stand humbled, and slightly disgruntled by my lack of knowledge. I actually bought into the hype of amsoil for my bike. only been 2000 miles in the bike, also the civic, but the civic is the full syn, so i will push it on it.


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Thanks for having my back here Ricko2!! I appreciate the professional rationalism! I know thats what my rep says PERIOD.

Maybe you can clear this question up for me, here is a question I submitted to Amsoil and the response following!

"I recently became a preferred member and have a question regarding your synthetic motorcycle oils. Are your oils in fact 100% synthetic? I had a discussion with a shop owner this week about Amsoil and Repsol oils and he told me that he was told by the Repsol rep that unless the container has "100% Synthetic" on it that it was NOT 100%? I did look at the Repsol container and it did have 100% Synthetic right on the container!! Thanks."

"Woody:

AMSOIL does this labeling a little differently. If our oil is not 100% Synthetic, we label it as “Synthetic Blend” or “Semi Synthetic”. See AMSOIL PCO, 15W40 oil for an example.

Thank you for this opportunity to respond to your question(s). As always, please feel free to contact us again if we can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
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Ricko2, I was really just looking for a "Yes Woody, our oil IS 100% synthetic" !
So IS my 10W40 Amsoil Synthetic Motorcycle Oil in FACT 100% Synthetic????

Got this reply from my AMSOIL contact:

"Hi Rick, yes, all AMSOIL motorcycle oils are 100% PAO forumulated synthetic, as well as the automotive and other lubricants.

Best Regards,

Dave Mann
Lubrication Specialist - Truck/Automotive Engineer
Society of Automotive Engineers Professional Member
Performance Oil Technology, L.L.C."

Hope this helps...

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Awesome! You know that is the answer I wanted to hear, I don't know why they just don't come right out and say it? I would think they would PROUDLY display that fact in their literature and on their packaging? You should bring this up to them Ricko! You know our government only requires oils to be (I'm not sure of the exact percentage, 38% - 52% I think) partially synthetic to be labeled as "FULL SYNTHETIC"!!!!!!!! This outrages me, I don't know about the rest of you? The Castrol Syntec I have been using for years in my truck is now I find only part synthetic!!!! What a rip off!!!!!

It's nice to know I can get an American made true synthetic oil for around $8 a quart versus a European (Repsol) for $13! Thanks to Amsoil!

Thanks again for digging into it Ricko!


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My guess is in auto, oil it is 100% synthetic.
But in Motorcycle oil the Base stock is 100% synthetic.
But due to the application it also has additives added for the transmission & thus cannot be listed as 100% due to the extras being in the mix.

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