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post #1 of 75 Old 03-25-2009, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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Wheelie 919

I really like my 919 and rarely ride aggressive. The other day I had it out for the first time of the year and thought I would try a little wheelie on a side street where no one lives or drives. I found the 919 a little hard to wheelie compared to what I expected/heard. Maybe it's just because it's a street bike but I've always rode quad's/MX and i could wheelie those things for miles without even trying. It seems like I have to give a pretty big tug on the 919 to get her high in the air.

Am I the only one?

I'm probably just being a 9uss.

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Give the throttle a hard tug instead of the bars. Mine comes up in 1st and 2nd under moderately heavy acceleration.

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switch your gearing to 15/45 and you will be begging the front end to stay down.

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The 919 does not wheelie easily on it's own & has a very high balance point as well.

Ride an 05-06 GSXR1000 sometime They have this unbelievably strong mid-range performance that just makes it soooooo easy to wheelie that you don't have to possess any real skill at all.

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Am I the only one?

I'm probably just being a 9uss.
You might be like me--I'm too chicken to really romp on the throttle for fear of going up and over. I have lofted coming hard out of corners, but even when I attempt wheelies in a parking lot, I'm just too scared. Oh well. At least there won't be a YouTube with me limping over and picking up my damaged bike...

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Street bikes don't come up well by pulling on the bars - cmurphy84 has the right idea. Use your right wrist.

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Mine comes up 6" or so in first or second when I'm really on it, but I'm also afraid of showing up on someone's you tube video limping over to pick it up my wreck, so I don't try very hard to go much further.

Few dirt bikes I've had I could wheelie easy enough, but was never good enough to carry them forever like some people can.

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If I take mine out to 4000 rpms and and open the throttle with a snap she goes skyward. I'm also 250lbs.

then I changed the gearing to 16/45 and get a nice loft out of her all the time.

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You might be like me--I'm too chicken to really romp on the throttle for fear of going up and over. I have lofted coming hard out of corners, but even when I attempt wheelies in a parking lot, I'm just too scared. Oh well. At least there won't be a YouTube with me limping over and picking up my damaged bike...
im with Brevity on this one, im old, and i sure as hell dont want to end up youtube, or the pokey, not no mention crashing the best ride ive ever had





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I'm old too ( 51 )
I still like to fool around though. I'm not too good at wheelies, but am getting better. The 919 is very capable, just needs lots of throttle.

I live in Ontario, Canada where the Ontario Provincial Police are cracking down. Under the new law here, if you get caught doing a wheelie or anything else fun, you will have your license suspended and your vehicle impounded for 7 days.
The same penalty for going 50 KM ( 30 MPH ) over the posted speed limit.
Of course, you will also get a big fine and increase in insurance rate.
Do any states have similar BS laws?

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Well, I don't even know how to wheelie a bike, but I have done it twice on my 919...both times by accident!! One time I just took off like a maniac (pretending I was drag racing or sumthin) it wasn't too bad and it wasn't a huge wheelie, maybe like 6-8 inches. But the other time I slipped the clutch ( I think) and that front end came up pretty violently, I though I was gonna flip over backwards and it scared the sh*t outa me, and so did the landing my front end came down hard and I felt like I got whiplash. So, now I am all paranoid about going to the 1/4 mile drag races this summer, for fear of my front end coming up.

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Do any states have similar BS laws?
yeah... here in florida they wanna take your license for a year with a mandatory 1000$ fine for 1st offense.......

3rd offense is 10 years and 10,000$....

but the cops don't chase sportbikes here... if they can get you without a pursuit they will...

but 90% of the time they won't bother you unless you are riding a wheelie down the interstate...



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I'm old too ( 51 )
I still like to fool around though. I'm not too good at wheelies, but am getting better. The 919 is very capable, just needs lots of throttle.

I live in Ontario, Canada where the Ontario Provincial Police are cracking down. Under the new law here, if you get caught doing a wheelie or anything else fun, you will have your license suspended and your vehicle impounded for 7 days.
The same penalty for going 50 KM ( 30 MPH ) over the posted speed limit.
Of course, you will also get a big fine and increase in insurance rate.
Do any states have similar BS laws?
In Kentucky, going 26MPH+ over the speed limit will often get you a night in the Fudge Pack Inn.

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get you a night in the Fudge Pack Inn.
thats funny





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The wifes 919 would stand up in total stock form but not an instant wheelie. I mean you would have to be in the 5 to 6 thou rpm range.
Install some Yosh slip ons only (her Christmas present) and snap the wrist at 4 thou and hold on cuz it is all sky from there which coming from a Kawasaki guy that is a meer feat for a Honda in itself.
It really does come up easy and fast without any help now.

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thats funny
its only funny if your the packer... not the packee



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If I ram on the throttle in first the front wheel definitely comes off the ground a few inches but I'm talking about getting some real air and holding it up there. I think for me it's just a weight, speed, and confidence issue. I'm used to off road vehicles that are a lot lighter and don't go 60 mph in first gear.

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If I ram on the throttle in first the front wheel definitely comes off the ground a few inches but I'm talking about getting some real air and holding it up there. I think for me it's just a weight, speed, and confidence issue. I'm used to off road vehicles that are a lot lighter and don't go 60 mph in first gear.
my front tire is rarely on the ground in 1st...

but i don't know how to ride a wheelie.. not like the stuntas... where you stand it up in balance and ride it for a mile... can't doit... wouldnt want to...

i am happy with power wheelies..



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Holy Crap, Barton664, can you leave your avatar the same for ONE day?
(Juss messin' witcha again. I do the same.)

I found that my 919 comes off the ground easily enough with a simple crack of the throttle in 1st. Found this out a few times by accident. When I go to pass a slow driver pulling away from a light, I never expected my bike to wheelie just by gassing it. But it does! Now I'm a little more tender when I caress the throttle. And since I got my new map done by DynoJet, this baby comes up in 2nd now without warning! Scarey, man, scarey! I'm not into deliberate wheelies. Too scared. And since I'm not to that age or physical state that I wear Depends, I think I'll try to keep the front tire on the ground.

Sure, a 919 is a naked street bike, and one you might not expect to wheelie, but after you read the magazine reviews or the Honda ads, you'll quickly see WHY it wheelies so easy:

"Lightest bike in its class"
"Lightest engine in its class"
"428 pounds dry weight"

And since I only weigh about 160 or so (about 50 pounds less than barton664) my bike is still scarey. It didn't take long to realize I need to lean forward if I'm gonna pass anyone in town or get on it!

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And since I only weigh about 160 or so (about 50 pounds less than barton664)
weighed this a.m. 237.2..........


80 pounds......



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weighed this a.m. 237.2..........


80 pounds......
Damn, dude! Lay off the twinkies! I was just joking. I know you told me on the phone a couple times, but I still thought you were more like 180-200. But you're a freakin' MOOSE!

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Do they have moose in florida?

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The 919 does not wheelie easily on it's own & has a very high balance point as well.
That's why I still have my Tuono
That's why I still have my 1098
That's why I still have my 900Sp
Heck! That's why I still have my '75 Schwinn

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Give the throttle a hard tug instead of the bars. Mine comes up in 1st and 2nd under moderately heavy acceleration.

+1
After I changed my rear to a 45 and my tire finally broke in......Mine comes up without a thought, even in 2nd.

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200 miles on my 919 figures id open it up a bit no,problem getting wheel off the ground...1st gear pull around 7000 starts coming up fast..im sure 2nd will do the same...first bike i owned with short wheel base so the quickness off it going up surprised me

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I think some of you lacking the distinction between a power wheelie (which just about any road going sportbike will do with little to no effort) with an in-your-face-look-at-my-drain-plug wheelie which takes a little more technique and horsepower to pull off correctly

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I think some of you lacking the distinction between a power wheelie (which just about any road going sportbike will do with little to no effort) with an in-your-face-look-at-my-drain-plug wheelie which takes a little more technique and horsepower to pull off correctly
technique and balls yes ..horsepower no

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technique and balls yes ..horsepower no

Well I'll be looking on youtube for your 80mpg 3rd gear stand-up on the Ninja 250 then

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If you REALLY wanna do a wheelie try dropping the rear tire pressure down to about 20 psi and try clutchin' it up. If you want to do a roll on try riding in first at about 5k rpm, drop the throttle and get back on quick and give the bars a good tug.

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Well I'll be looking on youtube for your 80mpg 3rd gear stand-up on the Ninja 250 then
it is possible, but would take a lot of modifications and money.

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If you want to do a roll on try riding in first at about 5k rpm, drop the throttle and get back on quick and give the bars a good tug.
You won't need a tug for that, it WILL stand up. Be warned it will come up quick.

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I think some of you lacking the distinction between a power wheelie (which just about any road going sportbike will do with little to no effort) with an in-your-face-look-at-my-drain-plug wheelie which takes a little more technique and horsepower to pull off correctly
I hate to always have to disagree with you but the ducati hypermotard is a wheelie king.... Darn thing only has 86 horses.
That and the duc monsters ... They are loved by some stunters. They aren't horsepower kings either.

Maybe it's more technique than power

That's my bet



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If you REALLY wanna do a wheelie try dropping the rear tire pressure down to about 20 psi and try clutchin' it up. If you want to do a roll on try riding in first at about 5k rpm, drop the throttle and get back on quick and give the bars a good tug.
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You won't need a tug for that, it WILL stand up. Be warned it will come up quick.
+1 Also move your body back a little on the bike...

I did it one time and that was more than enough... The bike went straight up like it was made to do it, then I panic'd and it came down hard with me over top the bars, I didn't crash but my forearm took all the force between me and bike and I thought I broke my arm... Once was enough

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King of wheelies is the superhawk! At least the ones from the early 2000's

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see guys on scooter riding wheelies for miles with no shoes on on youtube

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I hate to always have to disagree with you but the ducati hypermotard is a wheelie king.... Darn thing only has 86 horses.
That and the duc monsters ... They are loved by some stunters. They aren't horsepower kings either.

Maybe it's more technique than power

That's my bet
Monster's starve the front cylinder of oil TERRIBLY when lifting the front end up doing wheelies.

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Monster's starve the front cylinder of oil TERRIBLY when lifting the front end up doing wheelies.
LOL, that reminds me of my 78 year old father, he used to say he could ride a wheelie until the engine ran outa oil.


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LOL, that reminds me of my 78 year old father, he used to say he could ride a wheelie until the engine ran outa oil.

great pic....looks like he was a monster in his day...still does

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the 919 will do a stand up wheelie in 4th gear with no clutch.

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