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post #1 of 21 Old 09-22-2008, 02:20 PM Thread Starter
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Weird sounds from rear tire/drive¿

On the way home yesterday the wife and I heard this weird squeak from what I thought was another car, but while traveling 25 through Coronado we heard it again along with some nice double and single clunks. Not good. Took it real easy on the way home. So today I cleaned and lubed the chain, checked alignment and tension, but the noise is still there.

I am thinking it is the rear wheel bearings. Haven't taken the rear wheel apart yet though. The bike has 19,000 miles on it. Any help or suggestions before I spend $100 for new bearings and seals?

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Take the wheel off and try and turn the bearings by hand. If it's a bad bearing it will feel like it's indexing. They don't always put very much grease in them from the factory. I always repack bearings when I get a new bike or before I install replacements.

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That will have to wait until tomorrow morning. I have to drive the car to work.

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Well, took the rear tire off this morning. The left bearings are good gonna grease them though. As for the right side....pretty sure I found the problem.







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Learned my lesson. Check/grease bearings before and after long xcountry trip. Thank God my rear wheel didn't lock up on the wife and I while we were coming home from Santa Ana Sunday.

Anybody know where I can buy a, not too expensive, wheel bearing removal tool or borrow one? Found a kit on pitposse.com for $42.95.

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yep... they are definatly not supposed to look like that.. glad you found the problem before something got permanantly ruined.. other than that bearing which looks like it isnt good except for giving you a little slingshot ammo...



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I have all the tools brian. We did Sokali's rear wheel bearings about 6 weeks ago. You should PM him about where he got his bearings, I know he got a deal on them. You should replace both sides and even the fronts if you can.
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Looks like 2 or 3 of them are missing collars, and I wouldn't think there is supposed to be that much space between bearings. I might have completely lost one of them.

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If I order the parts from service honda I spend $60 on parts instead of $90. I will have to second day ship them to get them by Friday.

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If you want to do them at my shop, just let me know what day works best for you and I'll make time.

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That is what I am trying to figure out. I have to work speed fest this weekend. If the parts get here on Friday. I would like to try and make it Saturday. I have to buy a front stand to get the front wheel up. So I can get that off.

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If you have access to some jackstands, you can put them under your frame sliders to hold the front wheel off the ground. Works in a pinch.

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I made some calls and found the 6204 2rs wheel bearings in stock for under $7 each at Midpoint bearing, and they can have the 63/22 2rs drive cushion bearing by tomorrow if you can let them know by 1:00 today. It's $23 and change.

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I would be very surprised if the front bearings need replacement. I had to replace the rear wheel bearings at 48,000 miles, but checked the fronts at the last tire change and they were still perfect. Not surprising considering the considerably lighter load.

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You're probably right about the front bearings Rob. My main concern is with the amount of grease that may or may not have been installed at the mfg.
When I checked the wheel bearings on my 06' 919, some were good, some were barely adequate and one was....well lets just say there was more grease under my well trimed finger nails! Cheap insurance (and piece of mind) to check and re-pack.

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You have alien spacecraft living in your bearing housing.


PS I don't want you to perform routine maintenance on any of my vehicles, no offense meant.

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darkace625... This bearing failure has happened to numerous 919 owners. If you have time, a detailed how-to with photos would be most helpful. I can add it to the 919 Helpful Topics.

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I made some calls and found the 6204 2rs wheel bearings in stock for under $7 each at Midpoint bearing, and they can have the 63/22 2rs drive cushion bearing by tomorrow if you can let them know by 1:00 today. It's $23 and change.

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Fax: (909) 391-1648

I would be very surprised if the front bearings need replacement. I had to replace the rear wheel bearings at 48,000 miles, but checked the fronts at the last tire change and they were still perfect. Not surprising considering the considerably lighter load.

Good luck with this.

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Damn. Wish I would have seen this instead of having to go to work. Plus at 9:30 I ordered bearings through service honda.

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You have alien spacecraft living in your bearing housing.


PS I don't want you to perform routine maintenance on any of my vehicles, no offense meant.
I have kept up on everything else. What I don't have tools for I take it to a local shop. The 16k service is the only one I haven't made.

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darkace625... This bearing failure has happened to numerous 919 owners. If you have time, a detailed how-to with photos would be most helpful. I can add it to the 919 Helpful Topics.
As long as I get some decent time off this weekend I will have my camera and notepad (to make sure I don't miss anything).

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Whenever I have the wheels off on my bikes, I am quick to examine all rolling stock. I use Maxim Waterproof grease to repack the seals and to lube the axles. It never takes long to spin a bearing when you are doing wheel off services. You just cannot trust a tech to do anything beyond what you request of them. Even the best cannot mind read you. The fact that you have open races there is of special concern, as any deformation of the grease seal will result in contamination. I can't point to any real culprits, however you learned a pretty good lesson on bearing upkeep here. Now.......think about your swingarm and your steering head, plus your suspension linkages. I am happy that things didn't melt on you. When you do the repair or have it done, pay special attention to the bearing fit. There is a chance that the loose fitting self destructed bearing race may have slopped out your hub. This should be standard operations for a good tech.
Just joking you about letting you do maintenance on my rigs. After all, I put together my rear KLR brake wrond and lunched the shiit out of it.

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My swingarm bearings had minimal grease in em. 919's don't have "linked" suspension so he's OK there. Steering head bearings on mine were just barely adequate. Re-grease them.

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slick50 grease, or another high quality syn, hell, im going with amsoil, best money can buy





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