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post #1 of 27 Old 06-28-2008, 04:18 AM Thread Starter
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VMax!

I just finished reading about the 2009 VMax in Cycle World and dug up this video (a bit smokey, I admit).
It's naked!
Big $$ though.
[youtube]83E_67XqNP4[/youtube]

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post #2 of 27 Old 06-28-2008, 05:11 AM
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Always had a love for the V-max but I consider it more of a hotrod than a naked

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not diggin the headlight.
notice the screw heads in the exhaust tips? removable baffles?
my 550 zephr could do a burnout too. so what. They should've introduced it at a drag strip & had Pee Wee Gleason (is he still alive) take a run on it.
i hope it sells just cause I like old muscle bikes.

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197hp/123ftlb would be great for freeway merges...just keep an eye on that bumper waaay down the road quickly get very large! At a porky 658lb it should only live at the straight drag strip with a turbo.

link:

"Hello Insurance Rep I got a new Vmax with a little more power than my 9er."
Rep "How much more?"
"Double, what's the premium change?"
Rep "long pause....dialtone"
Open the quote letter and have a heart attack.

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c'mon that thing is friggin sweet you know it. gonna see if my wifey wants to get one.

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PeeWee Gleason.... man I haven't heard that name for eons.

I'll bet his quarter mile times were as realistic as dry weights and crankshaft HP#s.

My 250 Ninja would smoke up the place if needed.

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Check out their "'09 V-Max Tech Presentation" slides on the mag link (not yet on the MFG site). That naked BEAST is loaded! I'd like to rent one, but waaay too much of a good thing for a keeper.

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post #9 of 27 Old 07-01-2008, 02:20 PM
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eh. big deal. it's a 700 pound bike. throw all the horsepower you want at it, it's still not going to be very quick. it's evolution, not REVolution. if i wanted a quick 700 pound two wheeler, i'd cut a Mini in half down the middle.

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Hey Sugs, you believe they unveiled this in our backyard and we weren't invited. On the USS Midway flight deck. What was I doing June 3rd that made me miss it?

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post #11 of 27 Old 07-08-2008, 12:30 PM
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its a cruiser on steroids... i read 2 articles about it while i was sitting in the atlanta airport the other night waiting out my 4 hour layover. sounds pretty cool other than the fact that it has a limiter on the engine that only temporarily bypasses so you can get a couple full throttle runs, kinda takes away from the whole "200HP" hype when you find out you can't always use it.

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don't worry. somebody will make an override module.

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http://www.motorcycledaily.com/22aug..._star_vmax.htm

Yamaha claims 197 horsepower at the crank at 9,000 rpm, and 122 foot/pounds at 6,500 rpm. The last iteration of the VMax (sold in 2007) made 133.1 horsepower and 86.8 foot/pounds of torque. The new bike makes forty-eight percent more horsepower and forty-one percent more torque. The old bike was fast. The new bike is something else.

Wow. Just, wow. That is all.

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Yamaha claims 197 horsepower at the crank at 9,000 rpm, and 122 foot/pounds at 6,500 rpm. The last iteration of the VMax (sold in 2007) made 133.1 horsepower and 86.8 foot/pounds of torque. The new bike makes forty-eight percent more horsepower and forty-one percent more torque. The old bike was fast. The new bike is something else.

Wow. Just, wow. That is all.
+1 I really didn't see it as all that too start with but fully adjustable suspension as well as great brakes!! Wow is a good way to describe 122 ft/lbs tq!!

I want a test ride!!! wheres my closest Yamaha dealer????

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+1 I really didn't see it as all that too start with but fully adjustable suspension as well as great brakes!! Wow is a good way to describe 122 ft/lbs tq!!

I want a test ride!!! wheres my closest Yamaha dealer????
Good luck. Yamaha is pulling the same trick they did with the FJR. Pay a $1000 deposit, then they build your bike, and deliver in about 6-8 months. From what I've read, the first 500 were snatched up instantly by insiders and collectors.

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Good luck. Yamaha is pulling the same trick they did with the FJR. Pay a $1000 deposit, then they build your bike, and deliver in about 6-8 months. From what I've read, the first 500 were snatched up instantly by insiders and collectors.
oh well, guess there is always next year, but they probably won't let anyone test ride it, 200hp wow...

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it'll be a quick bike, but what's all the fuss? it'll do nothing that a hayabusa hasn't been doing for 10 years already.

besides break a 600 pound scale.

and an ugly stick, from overuse.

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chill Bucky, or should i say, warm out, he he he, yeah, its ugly, but a beast





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it'll be a quick bike, but what's all the fuss?
It's a standard.

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it's not a standard, it's a power cruiser. but so what? it breaks no new ground. other than quickest big fat pig. taking THAT crown from the Hardly Driveitson Destroyer.

i'd rather get a BKing and redesign the tank and tail, slap on some difft. zorsts.

i'd rather RATHER get a turboed Blackbird, or a Kent Stotz replica 1000rr, w/ blackstone tech and a knee-high seat height.

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it's not a standard, it's a power cruiser.
Google on 'standard motorcycle' and this is the first hit: http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/standard.html - notice the picture next to the definition.

But I think the reason it's getting so much PR is because it had such a large and loyal following, and then the bike was in hiatus for so many years. There were a lot of V-Max fans just waiting for its arrival for many, many years.

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that magazine, which i don't read because it's as illiterate as they come, just put a pick of a bike with no fairing, which just so happened to be a last-gen vmax. i don't think that is representative of the editors involved believing that is a max's genre.

i will not change my mind yet as to what category this bike is. i believe it more cleanly fits in the power cruiser category than standard.

it is not a standard riding position, it is much more cruiser.

i think just about any 200 hp bike will raise a hubbub, and of course with the last meaningful changes to a max dating back to the Reagan era, change was highly anticipated with this model. i don't know that i'd use the word hiatus, which implies you couldn't get one recently. i don't think they ever pulled them off the market, did they? pardon me, the us market?

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Well, Yamaha does list it within their "Star" lineup where all their cruisers live. They don't have a "Standard" category on their site like Honda and Suzuki and it doesn't fit in the sport category. I've always considered any bike with little or no fairing, an upright riding position, and pegs under your ass as a standard. Cruisers tend to have pegs or floorboards out in front of you.

You're right, it wasn't a production hiatus, but more of a design / remake hiatus. After all this time, I would have expected a prettier bike. Eh, it's like the BKing I guess, you either love it or hate.

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AHH Bucky my old freind I see agaian we meet on another round of disagrement. The Vmax is a standard Althuogh it is a muscle bike more in the cat. of say ZL900 eliminator ( had one loved it) or V65 Magna "Muscle bikes" (before there was a naked) and built on a standard platform. In fact I picked the 9er cuz it remined me of a Muscle Bike.

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I'd buy the bike just to have those really cool air scoops. Too bad it's priced for yuppy fat cats. Maybe my dentist will get one.

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post #26 of 27 Old 08-28-2008, 10:41 AM
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ricque, i don't think there's a clear definition of the various categories of motorcycle. i'm beginning to acquiesce and feel that it "depends on what the meaning of "is" is." i believe we could google around and get arguments to support our differing opinions but argue on for eons.

i view "standard" as being a slightly more politically correct way of saying "ujm". generally but not exclusively, a relatively light, multi cylinder bike with the crankshaft across the frame and an absolute minimum of bodywork. aka, you really would put a 919 picture in my version of this encyclopedia.

i cannot put a 919 and a vmax in the same category. if you played "one of these things is not like the other" with any number of people, both ignorant of and educated about motorcycles, i think the max would get lumped with a 'zook m109r MUCH more often than with a 919.

i believe if we had access to the manufacturer's marketing folks who have done the focus groups and research, i believe they would be looking at power cruiser buyers to market the max to. to steal sales from m109s, and rocket III's and such. i bet they've discussed how many sales the max may steal from the warrior. but not from the FZ1.

i however have decided to soften my stance and not speak defacto on this subject. there is a lot of interpretation wiggle room.

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You hit the nail on the head Bucky. The whole 'power cruiser' thing is marketing guys tagging these bikes differently because it sounds sexier than 'standard' or 'UJM'. That would be my guess. And for the 18K they're getting for the new VMax, no doubt they want to market it in the best light they can.

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