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post #1 of 12 Old 03-08-2009, 08:30 AM Thread Starter
 
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Went for a great ride yesterday and have a question for all you better riders. When going through 90* turns where do you look?? I mean tell me how you think. I set my eyes at a turn in.....then rip them down to the apex but I don't seem to really see it and find my eyes darting all over the road. It might be a fear thing also because I want lean more but can't force myself to. Wider turns I do much better, the futher I look the smoother I get. I just can't look down a 90* curve correctly. I chop the T or go in too slow and bobble around.........How do U hang a fast 90?

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post #2 of 12 Old 03-08-2009, 08:35 AM
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I always look as far through the turn as possible. Use your peripheral vision to see what's coming up right away. The more you can see and take in about an area/situation, the more time it gives you to react and make a change if necessary. Often it is impossible to see the apex of a turn unless you ride that turn so often that you already know it. Trying to concentrate on looking for the apex is taking your judgment time away from the rest of what's going on.

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At this point just try looking through the end of the curve rather than the apex point and as Ridge stated use your peripheral vision. I still remember the first time I was able to do that, the bike straightened up and my head stopped turning at the same time and the bike and my eyes were pointed at the same point further up the straight away (exactly where I was looking at as I was going through the turn) it was like poetry in motion and I knew I was on my way to becoming a better rider. Obviously you can't always look all the way thru a turn but just keep looking as far ahead as you can and once you can see the road straighten keep looking past the corner. Try not to do too many new things at once, just take small steps and it will all come together.

using your peripheral vision is the key.

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+1 on what these guys said, also a few practice runs around the same corner a few times can help, get the right line, Look through it and go around it smoothly, repeat, pick up the pace a little each time as you become more comfortable, the muscle memory you develop will help in future turns that are similar.

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post #5 of 12 Old 03-08-2009, 09:36 AM
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I'm against apexing on city streets. There are curbs there, often square ones. Now, a 90 deg turn on a lonely road, different matter. The main reason for not apexing in town is crap in the corner. Look at the ground in the corner at an intersection. It's covered with all matter of crap. I've known several guys who's bike slid right out from under them because they thought they'd apex the corner, and I know of one guy who's peg hit the curb. Broke his leg, totaled the bike. Doesn't mean you have to walk it around the corner, just don't feel like you have to ace the corner.
Back to open roads, I never look at the apex anyway, I set my line up, then look through the corner. As Ridge, Mat and Justin said, just look through the corner, and your peripheral vision will tell you how close you came. Plus a buddy following you can be a real help. Remember to accelerate slightly through the corner too, helps keep your bike grounded.

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this is sad to say, but when i ride (most of the time) road corners, if someone was behind me, they would be FAAAAAAAAAAAr behind me after the corner, i tend to take corners in my neck of the woods a tad fast. most of my buds have cruisers, and just cant take corners like the niner does. i know thats gonna start a $hitstorm, let it rain.





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this is sad to say, but when i ride (most of the time) road corners, if someone was behind me, they would be FAAAAAAAAAAAr behind me after the corner, i tend to take corners in my neck of the woods a tad fast. most of my buds have cruisers, and just cant take corners like the niner does. i know thats gonna start a $hitstorm, let it rain.
you just are driving recklessly... i would never exceed the posted speed limit expecially in a curve.. such a bad example... for shame...

































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this is sad to say, but when i ride (most of the time) road corners, if someone was behind me, they would be FAAAAAAAAAAAr behind me after the corner, i tend to take corners in my neck of the woods a tad fast. most of my buds have cruisers, and just cant take corners like the niner does. i know thats gonna start a $hitstorm, let it rain.
If you want someone to keep up with you, catch a ride with the arkriders. I know you had to work yesterday, but MAN!!, there are some good riders in that group.

Back on topic, it's good to look through a corner, but as mentioned before, on public roads there are just too many things (dead animals, sand from recent ice storms, potholes, oncoming traffic) that keeping an eye on what is closer to you is not a bad thing either. I would love to do a trackday, where I wouldn't have to worry about that!

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I find 90 deg turn difficult too. They are so slow and small its hard to hit them the same as a typical turn. Hard to look through a turn that can be seen in its entirty with one eye closed. And leaning off it tough on a big bike when moving so slow. Especially if your going at a pace that takes into account what might be there on a public road. My advise. Get a supermoto then you can nail them every time.

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Thanks. I think I may be too focused on the apex.... Just pick my line and look as far as possible. I am trying to get my mental state right because I just paid for my 1st track day in June ,at the new 16 million dollar, 2 1/2 mile, state of the art BLUEGRGRASS SPEEDWAY.
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Touring919. I have been looking for a good deal on a DRZ400sm all winter. What do you own?

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Thanks. I think I may be too focused on the apex.... Just pick my line and look as far as possible. I am trying to get my mental state right because I just paid for my 1st track day in June ,at the new 16 million dollar, 2 1/2 mile, state of the art BLUEGRGRASS SPEEDWAY.
That should be a blast and will definitely hone the cornering skills!

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