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post #1 of 53 Old 03-09-2009, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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synthetic or conventional?

hey, i got a question.my manual says i should run honda oil.what do you guys run and why?

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i run amsoil... full synthetic... bike seems to have more power and i can stretch the oil changes a bit to make up for the price difference... i have also used repsol... another really good oil.....



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I currently have the silkolene full syn 10w-40 (pro comp 4 I do believe) and it's some good stuff. Bike shifts smoother, runs cooler (not that it had that problem at all) and gets a little bit better gas milage. I bought the gallon jug when I did my oil change. I'd reccommend it!

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i run amsoil... full synthetic... bike seems to have more power and i can stretch the oil changes a bit to make up for the price difference... i have also used repsol... another really good oil.....
I just switched to Amsoil, and the clutch seems to feel alot lighter. Not sure about power, but only because I also switched to a 17t front, so I was moreso getting used to the sense of less torque.

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oh.i thought that because of the wet clutch it was necessary to run honda spec.and yeah on amsoil my wifes car hasnt seen an oilchnge in about 15,000 miles just the filter.

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You just need to run an oil that was designed for motorcycles and their wet clutch! If you have 5000+ miles it is a wise choice to go synthetic.... I am currently using Amsoil but think I am going to try the Mobil 1 Synthetic Motorcycle oil next! Make sure you get a top notch filter!! Honda filters are great but pricey, Amsoil filters are great as well and several others too.... Try using the search feature on this forum, there is tons of info on this subject available already.....


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syn after the break-in is done

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I'm running Amsoil's 10W-40 Motorcycle oil and their filter.

Not only is their oil good, their filters are top-notch. I use a filter cutter to check out the insides of the used filters... these filters are very well made.

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Nothing but Framsoil and filters for me

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Nothing but Framsoil and filters for me
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repsol full syn!!

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Nothing but Framsoil and filters for me
if you mean Fram filter and some type of oil do your self a favor and hack saw one of the fram filters apart and compare with any one filter similar and i'll bet you change the type of filter you use!! very poor quality but you get what you pay for...

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Amsoil for all the reasons above, and I sell it. See my website. All about Amsoil motorcycle oils. Mostly Harleys, But look down the page a ways, and click on the Powersports portal, for more info than you'll know what to do with...

Contact me for AMSOIL products!

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if you mean Fram filter and some type of oil do your self a favor and hack saw one of the fram filters apart and compare with any one filter similar and i'll bet you change the type of filter you use!! very poor quality but you get what you pay for...
The Fram filters sold at Wal-Mart are actually made by Ducati....

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Whatever the dealer slaps on her, Since day one. Now at 33.5k and still running like a champ. And she's an 06.

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Started with the Honda oil, now using Golden Spectro sythetic blend. will switch to full sythetic when it's got a few thousand miles on it.

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The Fram filters sold at Wal-Mart are actually made by Ducati....
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Nothing stirs up the WT Hornets nest like a good old Oil question LOL

I'm full syn. Mobil 1 and Purolator filter (not the inexpensive one)

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post #22 of 53 Old 03-10-2009, 10:16 AM
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Purolator makes a decent filter.
I prefer the Amsoil filter because it uses a micro-fiber filter element made by Donaldson:
http://www.donaldson.com/en/engine/s...ary/063312.pdf
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx


Fram filters?!
I avoid those like the plague they are!
They are made so cheaply that they often do not meet their own very low manufacturing standards.

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These are pretty good articles on filters and oil.
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Fil...tml#OilFilters
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

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i run amsoil... full synthetic... bike seems to have more power and i can stretch the oil changes a bit to make up for the price difference... i have also used repsol... another really good oil.....

Hey barton...How long are you going in between changes with your Amsoil? Mine currently has Amsoil in it, Previuos owner put it in there at 1000k miles so I was wondering what interval I should stick with


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Hey barton...How long are you going in between changes with your Amsoil? Mine currently has Amsoil in it, Previuos owner put it in there at 1000k miles so I was wondering what interval I should stick with
Honda recommends an 8,000 mile oil change interval on the 919. I'll be sticking with this even though I'm running full syn.

I'm more used to the 4,000 mile interval recommended for the air-cooled 750 NightHawk. 8,000 miles is a bonus!

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Fram filters?!
They are made so cheaply that they often do not meet their own very low manufacturing standards.
Proof? Data? I'm not a Fram fan but everyone is always bashing them. If they are such poor quality then how have then been in business this long? They would be shellin out millions in blown motor repairs every year. Fram isn't my choice or yours but they are not the devil filter everyone makes them out to be. Oh yeah....IMHO.

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I am currently running Lucas Oil full synthetic. Don't know if it is just my imagination or actual fact but it seems to shift smoother. Not that it was clunky before.

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Proof? Data?
Over the years I have been looking at information on the 'net. Construction details, filter medium type, filter medium area, etc...
I do not have the sources. If you do not trust the opinion I have formed over the years you are certainly free to find the source information yourself.

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If they are such poor quality then how have then been in business this long?
They stay in business through low price, marketing, wide distribution, and the lack of information most buyers have.


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They would be shellin out millions in blown motor repairs every year.
You can run the engine with NO oil filtration and the engine will work just fine for a long time.
Fram filters generally meet the minimum requirements, so they are not "bad" filters. They're just not "good" filters.
They will also fail at a higher rate. By design a "failed" filter will still pass oil, the oil just won't be filtered well, if at all.

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Hey barton...How long are you going in between changes with your Amsoil? Mine currently has Amsoil in it, Previuos owner put it in there at 1000k miles so I was wondering what interval I should stick with
i honestly don't know how many miles i put on the amsoil.... i changed oil at the beginning of jan... and i just bought a gallon of repsol (cause i couldnt find amsoil) and a k&n 303 filter......

sooo maybe 2200-2500 miles??

i change the oil when i look at the sight window and it is visibly black and dirty... then i change it..

i ride the bike hard and i figure a 40$ oil change is better than being a cheapass and something getting unnecessary wear due to me trying to save a couple dollars by stretching it.......... call me paranoid..



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lots of good responses .thanks to all you guys .im not due for about 2500 miles but now im not afraid to run synthetic.by the way if you cut and compare a fram to a wix you ll see the difference.i ll probably stick with a honda filter

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the repsol i used today is the semi syn.......... i really like it...... and i think the bike shifts better with the semi than with full syn



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anybody tried royal purple's full synthetic for motorcycles?

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I'm full syn. Mobil 1 and Purolator filter (not the inexpensive one)
I use that combonation on all my bikes...Mobil 1 Full Syn and Purolator PureOne

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anybody tried royal purple's full synthetic for motorcycles?
nope.... but that stuff is uber expensive...



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I run what is recommended in the manual. I spoke with 2 reputable Honda shops around and they said they just run the old fossil juice unless the manual calls for something else.

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Anyone use the Bosch 3323? I just bought one because my local Honda dealer went under. It was on that list of good filters somewhere on here. I hope it fits, it's an inch longer than the stock filter and will be close to the pipes.

I've been running Maxima syn blend oil, it's what the dealer recommended.

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Anyone use the Bosch 3323?
I'll answer my own question I just changed my oil and that filter just does fit! It also took the full 4 quarts to fill it up, which I consider a plus.

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I ran a Amsoil for the first change with Purolator pure 1 filter, but that's because when I bought the bike I got a couple quarts of Amsoil with it. I am now running Rotella 5w-40 Synthetic. I've read done alot of research on 'motorcycle oils'. The Rotella meets or exceed all requirements for the bike, and a gallon only runs aprox $18-20 at Walmart. It does nothing to harm the 'wet clutch', is made from very good base stock, and has very good anti-sheer properties.

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Rotella 5w-40 Synthetic.
Any specific reason for 5w-40 instead of 10w-40?

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