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post #1 of 32 Old 05-06-2015, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
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Super Duke boiled over...

First relatively warm day (85f) on the SD and she looses her composure dealing with stop and go traffic yesterday. Temp warning light comes on so I promptly pull over. I gave it a few minutes and checked the pressure on the coolant cap. it comes loose with minimal drama, I have a bottle on distilled drinking water on me so I top off the radiator. I get another few miles down the road and the temp light comes back on. This time the coolant cap geysers off soaking the entire bike tip to tail with coolant... Im not happy, I've put 1000 trouble free miles on the bike since getting it in late January and the temp has never gone above half way. So I call for recovery with a shop local to the area I'm in (not my normal stomping grounds). Luckily when I purchased the bike I took the dealer up on an offer of a two year extended service contract, I'm not sure why i did as I never buy those things. so today I have to call and file a claim, and wait to hear what the shop has to say.
I do not have a KTM dealer within 100 miles of my location so the bike is at a Ducati/Aprillia/Triumph/Guzzi shop.

The oil level looked high after the incident so I'm hoping water pump and not head gasket. I do check the oil level every ride to make sure its not rising.

Bike only has 6200 miles on it.

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post #2 of 32 Old 05-06-2015, 02:38 PM
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Good luck man, sure sounds like a good call on the service contract purchase.

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i'd start suggesting things to check, but if you have an extended warranty it is their problem

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In a twisted turn of events the extended warranty seems to have been cancelled by the dealer that sold me the bike...

I'm going to give the guy a little time before I completely lose it. Maybe it was an error... Fingers crossed they make it right.

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Good luck man! Hope they make it right for you!

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You shouldn't drink distilled water. It isn't good for you.

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You shouldn't drink distilled water. It isn't good for you.

It was a bottle of Aquafina pure life... says distilled in small print... that just means pre-boiled if I'm not mistaken

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It was a bottle of Aquafina pure life... says distilled in small print... that just means pre-boiled if I'm not mistaken
That's different. Actual distilled water will make you sick if you drink too much.

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Dang brother. Keep us posted, I'm curious.

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That's different. Actual distilled water will make you sick if you drink too much.
I've just always heard that any water going in a cooling system has to be distiller. Tap and spring water is supposed to have too many minerals in it that will do damage

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Dang brother. Keep us posted, I'm curious.

Will do... It's my favorite bike and I'd hate for it to turn out to be a temperamental beast. Hoping it was just an air bubble in the cooling system and that a flush and fill will sort her out.

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cancelled...well then where is your money back? of course they tell you that. what a bunch of turds.....

If you dont mind me asking how much did they steal from you?

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I am going to refrain from flaming them just yet (the dealership) It may be a simple mistake, but figure right now I'm out $750.00 plus the cost of repair on the Duke if its not sorted out.

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In a twisted turn of events the extended warranty seems to have been cancelled by the dealer that sold me the bike...

I'm going to give the guy a little time before I completely lose it. Maybe it was an error... Fingers crossed they make it right.
What? WHAT? No way. Fingers crossed here, too.

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It was a bottle of Aquafina pure life... says distilled in small print... that just means pre-boiled if I'm not mistaken
If I'm not mistaken aquafina adds minerals to their water. Might wanna check the ingredients on the label.

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Very common scam to charge for extended warranty then pocket the money.

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And yes you should be using distilled water in the cooling system, but just the same as humans can easily drink distilled water, engines can easily use tap water. It is just not ideal and should be swapped out at a convenient time later. Not surprisingly the reasons why are the same. You don't want the extra minerals in the cooling system of the engine because they will cause corrosion, but you do want those minerals in your body because they help balance your metabolic systems.

As a normal human in reasonably healthy condition you would have to drink NOTHING, but distilled water for likely months before you really started to feel the effects of mineral deficiency, but it will affect you even in short term use. Basically turning your entire body acidic and key elements that affect your metabolism and even your heartbeat. Short term use can provide an almost natural detox condition in your body. I'm no health nut or anything of the sort, but I have done this in the past and it certainly does work.

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As a normal human in reasonably healthy condition you would have to drink NOTHING, but distilled water for likely months before you really started to feel the effects of mineral deficiency.
LDH, stop posting about water....

All I can say is than one needs to drink 676 glasses of water a day to get proper daily calcium intake.... or 848 for iron. I like to get my minerals from food, faster that way

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I talked to the dealer... will know final info tomorrow, But it looks like he is sorting it out (regarding the extended service contract) ... or at least attempting to... lets hope the warranty company plays nice

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good news... the shop called me today letting me know the bike is fine... just had an air bubble in the coolant that got everything out of whack... its been bled and heat cycled according to KTM specs and is now holding temp properly.

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OK- Document EVERYTHING! DO NOT leave the dealer without documentation of the issue, your extended warranty, EVERYTHING!

Their goal will likely be to avoid documentin anything.

Cheers man & I wish you many trouble free miles!

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OK- Document EVERYTHING! DO NOT leave the dealer without documentation of the issue, your extended warranty, EVERYTHING!

Their goal will likely be to avoid documentin anything.

Cheers man & I wish you many trouble free miles!
Word. And also YES!!!!! glad the bike's OK.

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Definitely document everything like said. Don't wanna jinx it but if your engine is compromised it might still pass ktm inspections, for now. What about August or September in the heat or next year?

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Definitely document everything like said. Don't wanna jinx it but if your engine is compromised it might still pass ktm inspections, for now. What about August or September in the heat or next year?

I hear ya. I'm only slightly worried about it long term. I didn't let it over heat hard, I stopped as soon as the temp light came on. trolling the SD forum it appears that my issue is not unique and a lot of other riders/bikes have experienced it.
Im supposed to be looking for a radiator fan switch of an SV650, that is supposed to be a tremendous help.

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Just picked up the bike and dealt with more shitty stop and go city traffic. She held her composure just fine. No funny noises . They even cleaned her up for me.

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Awesome, man.

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30k miles of abuse on my 9er (including MANY days in the twisty canons of malibu in 1st and 2nd widing her out on 105*F ambient days).... never once overheated or come close to for that matter.

Just saying.

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30k miles of abuse on my 9er (including MANY days in the twisty canons of malibu in 1st and 2nd widing her out on 105*F ambient days).... never once overheated or come close to for that matter.

Just saying.

you'll hear no argument from me. When I got my first 919 the transmission was fooked, but the damn thing never overheated.

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Sorry to hear about your SD. When you refill the cooling system in a 990 Super Duke, they are to be on an incline in order to to keep what happened to you, from happening.

I had a Carolla do the "air bubble burp" once. We were far from home. It was "interesting".

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I know this is an older thread but I wanted to give you guys an update. I simply did not trust the bike after this happened to me so it has been relegated to the back of the garage since... I finally ordered a lower temp thermostat switch from KTM Twins and a new radiator cap...

Just got back from a jaunt.... 91 degrees outside .... temp gauge never got above 2/3rds and no coolant loss.... Perfect!


Ill be taking her on a 150 mile ride Monday!

Also got the Givi tank lock kit mounted on it so I can swap bags between it and the 919

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Didn't trust your Super Duke. That was dumb.

I recently took mine in to have the valves checked, 18,000 miles. They were perfect. Waste of money.

Everybody likes something different. But in my never to be humble opinion, my 7 year old 990 Super Duke is still the best street motorcycle ever.

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Didn't trust your Super Duke. That was dumb.

I recently took mine in to have the valves checked, 18,000 miles. They were perfect. Waste of money.

Everybody likes something different. But in my never to be humble opinion, my 7 year old 990 Super Duke is still the best street motorcycle ever.

I didn't trust it because it was losing coolant everytime I rode it.... I actually love the bike and didn't want to kill it.
All down to a faulty radiator cap. I thought that was good info to share because even the shop didn't pick up on it.

That low temp fan switch also keeps the temp gauge in check on hot days.

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