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Speaking of the stock rear shock on an '02 919

The preload adjustment is ramped, with the default being (?) 3 out of 5 ?

I recognize the "right" way to set preload is to actually measure sag.

But if you're lazy and not measuring sag, and have read too many threads here about the stock spring being overly stiff... would the right way to guess be to knock the preload down a bit?

Or do you expect me to actually have a friend who can help me measure?

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post #2 of 24 Old 07-26-2010, 11:27 AM
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All my friends are either digital or junkies so I can't get any one to help me do shit!

I accualy bumped mine up 2 clicks from stock and found it to much, back down one and feels about right for the stock turd it is, I'm 250lbs.

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How much sag is one supposed to have?

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Lazy azz method:

Pick your nastiest local bumpy road.
Start out on the weakest setting.
Ride the road... Take mental notes
Crank up the preload 1 notch.
Ride the road again.
Continue this procedure until the ride compliance feels the best.

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How much sag is one supposed to have?
All depends on the age...

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My local road is nasty and bumpy, and my ( perhaps flawed ) thinking is to put as little preload as necessary to keep it in the softer part of the spring.

The downside is I may be giving up cornering clearance and overall composure.

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how much clearance do you need in the corners?

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I'm hanging off as much as I'm ever going to hang off, and other than riding on my toes (which I already sorta do, but it's dangerous because I'm feel like my foot can now slip off ) --- I'm dragging my feet, pegs (removed feelers last week) and even my knee a bit on the street. I'm not feeling like I'm going particularly fast or using that much lean angle -- it just seems like I sit low in the bike, and mid-corner bumps (of which my favorite road is full of ) just plonks my foot/knee into the ground.

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Stock preload is 2, at the recomendation of another member I increased the preload to 5 he said full 7) and set the rebound 2 1/2 turns out from full in. The ride is great!, Smoother and more stable in the corners. I also turned the preload on the front all the way up and reduced the rebound 1/8 turn so the dot was on L. I'm around 240 with gear and have three hard bags on the back. I'm going to ride a couple more times like this then increase the rear preload and try that. World of difference so far.

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I have an 02 shock. It has only preload adjuster.

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I have an 02 shock. It has only preload adjuster.
That sucks, rebound made a BIG difference. I've seen used '04+ shocks for around $50.00 here and on ebay, it might be worth while.

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The preload adjustment is ramped, with the default being (?) 3 out of 5 ?

I recognize the "right" way to set preload is to actually measure sag.

But if you're lazy and not measuring sag, and have read too many threads here about the stock spring being overly stiff... would the right way to guess be to knock the preload down a bit?

Or do you expect me to actually have a friend who can help me measure?

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Stock preload is 2, at the recomendation of another member I increased the preload to 5 he said full 7) and set the rebound 2 1/2 turns out from full in. The ride is great!, Smoother and more stable in the corners. I also turned the preload on the front all the way up and reduced the rebound 1/8 turn so the dot was on L. I'm around 240 with gear and have three hard bags on the back. I'm going to ride a couple more times like this then increase the rear preload and try that. World of difference so far.
I'm glad it worked out for you.
BTW, when I said preload it all the way, I meant the front, not the rear but it looks like you figured it out that 5 is your setting on the rear
Also when you say
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I also turned the preload on the front all the way up and reduced the rebound 1/8 turn so the dot was on L.
do you mean all the way in, right? That's where it should be if you are 240lbs
and still have stock front springs. Also don't worry about the marking: screw rebound all the way in (don't force it!!) and than back it out 2.25-2.5 turns.

The above is for front.

For the rear 5 should do it if you are alone. If you load 100lbs or so, go ahead and crank it in all the way to 7.

Now go ahead and drop $100 for 1lbs front springs, it will be your best investment for 919 with your weight.

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I'm 205lbs -- so maybe 220lbs in gear.

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I'm 205lbs -- so maybe 220lbs in gear.
since it's 02, you are very limited in the front, unless you would like to open them up and preload speings with the longer spacer (30 min job if you already have spacers)

as far as the rear goes, your sag should be about right with the preload in 3rd click.

You should go ahead and get new front springs , ~0.95kg is your rate.
Whreever you decide to go to new forks, f4i or 04+ 919, they will fit there as well. The same springs. You will be amazed at the difference when cornering or braking

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I'm glad it worked out for you.
BTW, when I said preload it all the way, I meant the front, not the rear but it looks like you figured it out that 5 is your setting on the rear
Also when you say
do you mean all the way in, right? That's where it should be if you are 240lbs
and still have stock front springs. Also don't worry about the marking: screw rebound all the way in (don't force it!!) and than back it out 2.25-2.5 turns.

The above is for front.

For the rear 5 should do it if you are alone. If you load 100lbs or so, go ahead and crank it in all the way to 7.

Now go ahead and drop $100 for 1lbs front springs, it will be your best investment for 919 with your weight.
I'll try the front rebound tonight, probably taking the wife for a ride so I'll crank rear preload to 7 & try it. Thanks again.

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I know this has been hashed 1000 ways to Sunday.

Short summary: Is the 07 shock noticeably "better" than an 02 shock.
Bonus points: Is it rebuildable?

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I know this has been hashed 1000 ways to Sunday.

Short summary: Is the 07 shock noticeably "better" than an 02 shock.
Bonus points: Is it rebuildable?
the 07 (04+) shock is definitely better... it has rebound adjustment and isnt AS harsh as the 02-03.... none of them are rebuildable tho.

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That's a good deal on a rear shock. I just got one for $85 shipped from an 07. Had 6000 miles on it.

As for the rear shock, here's a good link on one that was 'rebuilt'. I believe it was Ohlin Springs, Oil/Fluid, and bigger reservoir.

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rmb = thanks for the listing.

Knock on wood, I'll be posting a "Hay, how do I remove and install a shock" thread in a couple weekends.

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rmb = thanks for the listing.

Knock on wood, I'll be posting a "Hay, how do I remove and install a shock" thread in a couple weekends.
You don't even have to remove the rear wheel to do it, but you do need to get the rear wheel off the ground and the back of the bike resting on something other than the rear tire or swingarm.
It's a super easy job.

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post #23 of 24 Old 05-11-2011, 08:53 PM
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is the stock setting on the rear, 2 or 3 notches? i've been trying to find the answer, but some say 2 some say 3. thanks!

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post #24 of 24 Old 05-11-2011, 09:07 PM
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i weigh 185 on a 02 with screws on the top of my forks what should i set mine at

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