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post #1 of 25 Old 08-08-2008, 01:31 PM Thread Starter
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Spark Plug Simplifier

I don't know if others have discovered, but you can remove and replace all 4 spark plugs with a single wrench/extension.

if you loosen the upper rad hose junction (where the radiator cap attaches to the plastic hose coupler r/s under the tank) screw and remove the coils, which i do every time anyway, a 12" wobble extension can allow you to reach all 4 plugs. i snake it behind the main wiring harness on the right side, after i loosen said rad hose junction.

either a magnet on a stick or stork needle nose pliers to remove the plugs.

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post #2 of 25 Old 08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
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the last (well only) time i did mine i didn't loosen radiator or any thing else too
was abit time consuming getting to 1 plug but it can be done.
I was just to lazy to remove everthing.

oh i didn't have a swivel knuckle wobbley thing either.

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I unbolted the coils and the radiator hose junction and used the plug socket in the tool kit and everything smooth as ox snot.

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Changed mine this week, I took the hose off the radiator end, and used the Honda plug tool. Nothing else needed. I didn't fool with the coils. I did make a tool for holding up the tank. Will post as soon as I take pics.

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I used a bottle of Wax Shop auto polish to hold up the tank, just set it on top of the frame and lower the tank down onto it.

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I used a bottle of Wax Shop auto polish to hold up the tank, just set it on top of the frame and lower the tank down onto it.

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Roll of Toilet Paper works really great

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I used a bottle of Wax Shop auto polish to hold up the tank, just set it on top of the frame and lower the tank down onto it.
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I used a hunk of wood. Does that make me a Neanderthal?

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I used a hunk of wood. Does that make me a Neanderthal?
No, that would be if you dragged your wife out there by the hair and made her hold it up.

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This took about 4 glances with the eyeball, and 2 minutes with the jigsaw. It holds real steady. It fits against the metal U shaped tabs that slid over the tank bushings.
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I used a bottle of Wax Shop auto polish to hold up the tank, just set it on top of the frame and lower the tank down onto it.

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I used a hunk of wood. Does that make me a Neanderthal?
I used a bottle of cleanwipe ,but now that it is empty it crushes just enough to kick out from under the tank.

Used a rubber mallet to finish last time....

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I used a small football to hold up the tank. One of the ones thats like 3/4 size of a normal football. Worked great

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other tools work, but the extension i describe lets you work from above the fray: no monkeying around where you have to take little bites at loosening or tightening the plugs and it goes MUCH faster when you can just speed them in and out. you can use a damn air gun my way, if you are sensitive enough with the tightening.

i'm sorry, but the most neanderthal thing is using the factory tool kit tools. eesh ! that stuff's a nightmare.

i use a block of wood under the tank too. no sparks, for one.

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yip,a good old block of 4x2 works a charm.

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other tools work, but the extension i describe lets you work from above the fray: no monkeying around where you have to take little bites at loosening or tightening the plugs and it goes MUCH faster when you can just speed them in and out. you can use a damn air gun my way, if you are sensitive enough with the tightening.

i'm sorry, but the most neanderthal thing is using the factory tool kit tools. eesh ! that stuff's a nightmare.

i use a block of wood under the tank too. no sparks, for one.
I agree that most of the tool kit is just for a "feel good" feeling thinking that you could actually maintain your way out of a break down away from home. ...but the one bright spot in the kit is the sparkplug wrench. It actually works, and better than most tools. It was free, it is with my bike all the time so I know where it is, and it does not require me to buy what would otherwise be a useless 12" extension.

Have you tried the took kit sparkplug wrench?

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i had the extension...i have lots of good tools. i have no reason to seek an alternative to that which works wonderfully.

each spark plug, via my method, takes 15 seconds to remove and 15 to install. as opposed to trying to sneak my fat mitts into the space under the frame backbone to take little 1/8 turn bites out of an 8-turn spark plug in both directions.

it's like living with Anna Faris and having someone ask me, "yeah, but have you ever slept with a fat ugly chick?"

thanks, but no.

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I actually used my Snap-On socket and flex coupling on the tool kit socket, went much faster than the wrench method

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$100 dollars says you can't remove and install 4 plugs on the 919 in 2 minutes. You may if the motor is sitting on the floor. But, not in the bike.

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$100 says you're right.

i only quoted the "spinning" times.

i PREFER to pull the coils, in the name of longevity of the ignition leads and routing them nicely without strain on them when i'm done. and being a biggish guy whose worked on lots of stuff, i ALWAYS give myself all the room i need to COMFORTABLY do the job, even if it means a little more time.

ever own or wrench on standup jetskis? how many people have asked you about the bobcat fight you broke up? i did, and that was the beginning of me treating myself right. okay, in the ONE regard of working on stuff.

but if me and someone with a factory kit wrench both had the tanks propped and the coils pulled, it's no contest.

'specially if i chuck it all up to an 18v cordless.

to quote Bill Cosby, "zip, zop!"

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Yea, I hot rodded for 20 years before I started wearing gloves to pull and tear down engines. Some how knuckles hanging by a thread aren't trophies anymore. Since I don't have to go to work anymore, I start and stop a job when ever I feel like it. If it ain't fun, I don't do it.
Really, the lil Honda plug wrench works better then any thing I pieced together from Mr. Craftsman.

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i had the extension...i have lots of good tools. i have no reason to seek an alternative to that which works wonderfully.
thanks, but no.
I thought so.

Oh, and the toolkit wrench holds the sparkplug so no fumbling for the magnet or needlenose. I tried it your way on 1, 2, and 4. Used the toolkit on #3. Next time you're in Washington with your bike, I'll race you on #3.

Using your analogy, you're calling Anna Faris (whoever that is) the fat, ugly chick.

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a decent non-oem spark plug socket holds the spark plug too, but a magnet on a stick or stork pliers take all of 3 seconds per hole at most.

i usually number cylinders with the one closest to the timing drive being #1, but if memory serves correct, Honda disagrees.

if you mean the inboard spark plug on the right side, again, it comes out with my ratchet and extension in one easy shot once i've removed the coils and the coolant fill junction screw. which i'm going to do no matter what tools i use on the plugs, for space and ease. so #3 can come and go in about a total of 30 seconds, if i was under the gun. again, less if i used an 18v cordless or a manual speed handle.

i'm not sure of your commentary on my analogy: i'm saying that if i'm happy with high quality tools, i'm not inclined to go looking to use an alternative of a lesser quality.

but i was just being crudely folksy, as i kinda like "less-than-model-y" women.

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bucky, good to go. man! I just use the numbers stamped on the head. I wouldn't know enough to do anything else.

...and I married a "less-than-model-y" woman, so again, we agree!

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Bump that bumper jack and I can see one finger wiggling on the ground!

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Actually it sets in behind the tank check cable which keeps it from moving forward and the height of the bottle and the insulating foam on the bottom of the tank keeps it from moving backwards, but you could be right, build something fool proof and the world WILL build a better fool.

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