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I was taking off my 900rr exhaust system this weekend and putting on the stock system. Snapped off one of my studs for the header. I snapped it when I was screwing it back into the motor. I have enough to grab on to with a pair of vice grips. Have to get a pair tonight. I'm just glad I snapped the stud that is all the way on the left side. Side with the horn. I can screw another stud in no problem, just hope I can get the old one out.......

Figures somthing would go wrong.....it always happens to me...

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pentrating oil or wd40 is your friend.

A few years ago I noticed 2 were snapped off on my Buell 1 day before it was to go to its new owner. I couldn't knowingly hand it off that way so had to do emergency surgery. Hours of frustration ensued.

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Adam, that sucks but at least you have a piece of stud to clamp onto. Just be careful and take your time with the removal. Sometimes a little heat from a handheld propane torch helps.

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I had a cheap pair of vise grips i was using last night with heat and the vise grips kept slipping. Going to get a bigger, better pair of grips tonight after work. Also pick up a stud or two. Hopefully I'll be back up and running tonight....
Oh, and better get some more WD.......

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Worst case scenario.......Good titanium bit and an easy out. If you have to go that route just be careful you don't booger the threads up or you'll then have to deal with a helicoil (sp?)...




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Worst case scenario.......Good titanium bit and an easy out. If you have to go that route just be careful you don't booger the threads up or you'll then have to deal with a helicoil (sp?)...

Hmmm, I wonder if i have enough room to get a drill bit in thier....
and how well does a Helicoil(sp?) hold......never used them....

Hope it doesn't get that bad...."may the force be with me!!"

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These are supposed to be nice. I had a broken stud once, before it was done there was a helicoil involved.

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If there is room, you may consider chasing the threads with a tap when you get the stud out. If the stud has a shoulder on it, maybe those Craftsman bolt outs might be small enough to extract the stud.

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First I'll try heating the case up and using a good pair of Vise grips, then I'll get a tap in thier and try a new stud......That's my plan anyway.....Let you know tomorrow how it turned out.....

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Hmmm, I wonder if i have enough room to get a drill bit in thier....
and how well does a Helicoil(sp?) hold......never used them....

Hope it doesn't get that bad...."may the force be with me!!"

I've used them a few times on automotive heads and on dirt bikes and I've never experienced a problem. A lot of the time the helicoil is stronger than the existing block material.




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Adam... If it comes down to drilling out that stud I suggest you use Ti left handed drill bits of increasing sizes starting with 1/8". File a good flat on the stud and center punch as dead center as possible. Just be careful not to go too large, you do not want to damage the treads. When the stud diameter gets thin enough it will either spin out with the drill or it can be picked out with a needle nose pliers.

IMO stay away from those easy outs, if they snap off you are in deep dodo!

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I'm finding out that M7 which is the thread, is not a common thread. No one has just an m7 stud.....might have to go to dealer on this one....

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I'm finding out that M7 which is the thread, is not a common thread. No one has just an m7 stud.....might have to go to dealer on this one....
I checked Ron Ayers, those studs item #15 are M8 x 24
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NOTE: The head side of the stud is 8mm and the nut side is 7mm.

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Wonder if an 8mm stud would fit through the header bracket???? Could drill it out I guess......

8mm stud in motor, Good to know! Thanks, Motocycho

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Adam... If it comes down to drilling out that stud I suggest you use Ti left handed drill bits of increasing sizes starting with 1/8". File a good flat on the stud and center punch as dead center as possible. Just be careful not to go too large, you do not want to damage the treads. When the stud diameter gets thin enough it will either spin out with the drill or it can be picked out with a needle nose pliers.

IMO stay away from those easy outs, if they snap off you are in deep dodo!
I'm with Mike on this one. I used the exact same method on some uncooperative brake rotor bolts on my old 88 Prelude. As long as you're very careful when drilling, it's a very safe, effective method. Once the bit got close to the diameter of the stud, the bolt actually came out with the drill bit when I tried to back the drill out. Easy as cake! Piece of pie!

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Yeah I gonna be a 3rd to say it. my ehaust bolt snapped clean with the frame and I used the same method and it worked out they threads were fine and I just had to find a new bolt which is not a problem for the exhaust in the back, but Id def get the oem bolt from a dealer on the header.

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Sounds good guys! I'll try that and let you know tomorrow morning!!

Thanks for all the advise!!!

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Well, Got the stud out!!! Good to go now!!!!! Just added some heat and a good pair of vise grips. Came out just fine. I feel better.

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Well, Got the stud out!!! Good to go now!!!!! Just added some heat and a good pair of vise grips. Came out just fine. I feel better.
Good news Adam! Before you install the new stud may I suggest a thin coating of Anti-Seize lubricant. I use the Permatex brand, it prevents seizing, galling, and corrosion. It is also a useful product when replacing your spark plugs.

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and after. Also notice the new rubber! I'm ready to go now for spring. I take that back, change oil and brake fluid, then I'm good to go!!!


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IMO, stink or no stink the 919 looks sooooo muck better with dual high cans. Just think how it's going be with the Satos!
To finish thing off that rose colored fly screen needs a couple of coats of black paint.

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Yea, I agree the stock for does look sweet as hell!!!!

You mean Carbon Sato's!!!!! I think the carbon ones will look sweet againts the yellow.....

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Yea, I agree the stock for does look sweet as hell!!!!

You mean Carbon Sato's!!!!! I think the carbon ones will look sweet againts the yellow.....
Yup... CF cans!

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Looking good Adam! Post up some pics when you get the Sato's




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I would like to see also.

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