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Anybody got a single front brake line that I can use to connect the M/C to the right side caliper? The front brake noise is driving me nuts, I've tried every fix I could find but none has worked on a permanent basis and am thinking about pulling a Bucky and going to a single front disc and rotor. Or at least killing an afternoon mucking about with my bike only to discover that it still makes noise with only one front caliper. Donations are accepted. Give till it hurts.

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Did you try my mix of galfer one side of the disk and Honda on the other, it worked for me!

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Anybody got a single front brake line that I can use to connect the M/C to the right side caliper? The front brake noise is driving me nuts, I've tried every fix I could find but none has worked on a permanent basis and am thinking about pulling a Bucky and going to a single front disc and rotor. Or at least killing an afternoon mucking about with my bike only to discover that it still makes noise with only one front caliper. Donations are accepted. Give till it hurts.
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Did you try my mix of galfer one side of the disk and Honda on the other, it worked for me!
Yup..
So far I have tried

Honda Pads

Galfer Pads

Mixed pads

Beveling the leading edges of the pads

Cleaning disks, pads, and rotors

Completely disassembling and cleaning the calipers

That stupid orange brake pad goo

Sanding pads and rotors

Swapping sides on pads

Removing and re-installing various parts of the front end to check for sympathetic vibrations

Linking the front rotors with zip ties across the wheel in the hope that one rotor might dampen the vibrations of the other (this actually did help some but I was paranoid about a zip tie coming loose and doing damage so I took them out)

Bled the entire system two or three times

Today I may check the fork oil, just because.


I've also made sure to properly align the forks and follow all proper procedures when performing the above listed lunacy. The longest I've been without the squeal is one day. It has always come back.

Galfer rotors are out of the question for this bike. Before I spend $500 on rotors I'll set it and buy something that doesn't squeal and has adjustable suspension.

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Did you try swapping the rotors to the opposite sides? May as well if you tried all the other stuff.

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Did you try swapping the rotors to the opposite sides? May as well if you tried all the other stuff.
Arent't the rotors directional? I know they have rotation arrows on them.

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what is this annoying noise you guys are talking about. I only hear any noise from them on real slow corners when I don't have earplugs in. The noise I hear is a typical swishing sound where the pads are barely in contact with the rotors. I hear nothing going straight...slow or fast.

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i have had this problem.... check the air pressure in your front tire... last time mine was doing that my front tire was low.. put air.. no noise



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i have had this problem.... check the air pressure in your front tire... last time mine was doing that my front tire was low.. put air.. no noise
I usually check my pressure every other day and I keep it between 34 and 35 PSI. Don't think it's an air pressure issue. My brother-in-law's '07 600RR does the exact same thing. I think it is normal behavior.

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The swooshing sound is normal. The noise I (and other 919 owners) have is a groaning noise when the brakes are applied at low speed. Sounds like a garbage truck coming to a stop.

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Garbage truck...hmm...how about some of that gunk in a pouch they give you at AutoZone when you buy pads. Goes on the back of the pad to help stop chattering?

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Garbage truck...hmm...how about some of that gunk in a pouch they give you at AutoZone when you buy pads. Goes on the back of the pad to help stop chattering?

Check the above list.

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Sorry...I missed the "Stupid Orange Brakepad Goo" line. That's one heck of a list to go through.

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Rotors are directional but I would still try swapping them if I had a lot of noise. Mine were making a lot of noise a while back swapped them, cleaned them real good and put them back....no more noise.

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i get going real fast, then i hit the brakes real hard.
several times, get them red hot.
its called beding. nice and quiet.

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i get going real fast, then i hit the brakes real hard.
several times, get them red hot.
its called beding. nice and quiet.
Dude,
Do you actually think I could have done any of the items on the above list without bedding the pads.

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Rotors are directional but I would still try swapping them if I had a lot of noise. Mine were making a lot of noise a while back swapped them, cleaned them real good and put them back....no more noise.
Sounds worth a try.

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Alright dammit. last night I had heard the honking front brakes enough. I pulled the front wheel and removed the rotors and pads. I used a scotchbrite pad and brake cleaner to clean the rotors until they were nice and shiny, no brake pad residue left. I then re-installed the rotors in reverse direction, just to see if it worked. I took the pads to my bench grinder and gently roughed up the surface a bit, then cleaned with brake cleaner. I cleaned both calipers (again) and lubed the pistons (again). I re-assembled everything just like the service manual says. Took the bike out. Rode for a bit with the pads lightly dragging to rotors to get a little heat in them. Made several hard stops from 60 mph to bed the pads in. The brakes had no noise whatsoever... for about 20 minutes. Although right now the noise is lower in volume, I'm sure that with time it will return to it's former glorious amplitude.

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i guess i need to tell him where i hid that digital recorder of dragging brakes on his bike with the brake light activated switch...



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Proof positive that not even Hondas are perfect...

Does it really bother you that badly? For me, I just got used to it. Now I hardly even notice it.

Mind over matter. I think soundman's list proves it.

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i guess i need to tell him where i hid that digital recorder of dragging brakes on his bike with the brake light activated switch...
I KNEW IT!!! I took the caps off the forks last night looking for a hidden speaker.

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Proof positive that not even Hondas are perfect...

Does it really bother you that badly? For me, I just got used to it. Now I hardly even notice it.

Mind over matter. I think soundman's list proves it.
If I didn't have my RC-51 I would have gotten used to it by now.

On a brighter note I took the 919 out for a Sunday ride last week because I just didn't feel like dealing with the physical stress of riding the RC and was reminded of just how brilliant the 919 really is as long as you're not coming to a stop.

I'm still hoping that someone has an extra single brake line lying around btw.

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lol... look i know this is a stupid question... BBBBUTTT is it possible you ride with one finger on the brake lever and maybe are putting the teensiest bit-o pressure on the lever???



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Nah... Plus it doesn't do it unless I'm applying the brakes to come to a stop. If I'm rolling or just slowing down a bit there's no noise. The noise is completely from 20mph to a stop.

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There's one thing I forgot to mention, At the time I put the mixed pads in, or the next day or so, I went to the braided lines! Maybe that's what stopped the squeal?

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Ok soundman. One more thing. DO NOT use break clean. IMO it makes the brakes squeal. I would so it one more time with the scotchbrite pads, followed by soapy water and rinse clean. Should take care of it. Brake clean is good for cleaning hands or parts, but not brakes. (also fun to light on fire. hehe).

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Ok soundman. One more thing. DO NOT use break clean. IMO it makes the brakes squeal. I would so it one more time with the scotchbrite pads, followed by soapy water and rinse clean. Should take care of it. Brake clean is good for cleaning hands or parts, but not brakes. (also fun to light on fire. hehe).
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Mine never squeal. Anymore....
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I guess yours don't squeel. The front end of your bike is on a stand everytime I see a picture of it. Try riding it!

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Your supposed to RIDE, these things!?

I thought they were just supposed have money thrown at them & then you take pictures of it.

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I guess yours don't squeel. The front end of your bike is on a stand everytime I see a picture of it. Try riding it!
I guess we'll see who's riding in a month or so.

Oh, and snowmobiles don't count.

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I guess we'll see who's riding in a month or so.

Oh, and snowmobiles don't count.
Oh i will be riding in a month. I ride every month of the year. I don't even know anyone who owns a snowmobile. As long as the main roads are clear of snow I will ride. I have riden 3 blocks down the sidewalk so I could ride.

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What ever happened with the brakes soundman? Are they better now?

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Ok,
Tonight I pulled the rotors and pads AGAIN. Resanded and cleaned with soapy water instead of brake cleaner. Re-assembled. tested. Same result. Groaning brakes after a few miles of riding.

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The brakes on my '02 never made a peep -- until a board hit the left rotor and slightly bent it. Now it makes a cyclic groan kind of noise whenever the pads encounter the bent area below about 10 to 15 mph. This makes me wonder if your rotors are dished somehow -- maybe an artifact of too agressive grinding at the factory with too little coolant introducing a thermal stress that dished or warped it enough to cause the noise. Unfortunately if they are dished the only cure is to have them blanchard ground -- which would be practically impossible with the rotors mounted to the carriers.

I'm afraid if this continues to bother you the only way to cure it is with aftermarket rotors, especially given that you have tried everything else possible. Sorry.

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The brakes on my '02 never made a peep -- until a board hit the left rotor and slightly bent it. Now it makes a cyclic groan kind of noise whenever the pads encounter the bent area below about 10 to 15 mph. This makes me wonder if your rotors are dished somehow -- maybe an artifact of too agressive grinding at the factory with too little coolant introducing a thermal stress that dished or warped it enough to cause the noise. Unfortunately if they are dished the only cure is to have them blanchard ground -- which would be practically impossible with the rotors mounted to the carriers.

I'm afraid if this continues to bother you the only way to cure it is with aftermarket rotors, especially given that you have tried everything else possible. Sorry.

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