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This is a silly question, but... I have an '02 919, I was wondering if I take the top fork bridge off will I need to raise the front tire off the ground? It shouldn't be an issue if I don't loosen the lower pinch bolts, right? Sorry for the amateur question. Thanks for any help.

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This is a silly question, but... I have an '02 919, I was wondering if I take the top fork bridge off will I need to raise the front tire off the ground? It shouldn't be an issue if I don't loosen the lower pinch bolts, right? Sorry for the amateur question. Thanks for any help.

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I don't own the bike so I can't tell you if it will bend/damage anything but it won't fall apart on you if you do that either.

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Well, I only need it off long enough to throw some clip-ons on the forks...

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I don't own the bike so I can't tell you if it will bend/damage anything but it won't fall apart on you if you do that either.

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Agreed and I own a 9er. If you can unload the front it would probably be a lot better. Do you have front and rear stands? If so, unloading the front is easy, even if you have the front stand that goes into the bottom holes on the forks. Get her on stands, block up underneath and remove the front stand. I've actually used a piece of steel that rests against the bottom of the motor between it and the exhaust pipes, supported by concrete blocks on both sides. This keeps the weight off of the exhaust. But you could probably use the exhaust if you're easy on it.
I need to get a stand that goes into the front pivot to make this easier.

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I've only got rear stands, if I don't lift up the front, what kind of risk factor am I looking at? I'm estimating I'll only have it off for 5-10 minutes.

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You'd just need to be sure you aren't putting extra weight on the front end.

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I don't know. Never tried it. Sounds reasonable, but if it were me I think I would try taking some weight off by blocking/jacking under the exhaust. A bent lower triple clamp/fork tube(s)/steering stem would be nasty. Maybe someone else has done this.
I know putting weight on the exhaust is not a perfect answer either, but I have gambled and it worked. You wouldn't have to lift the front wheel, just get the forks extended and weight transferred to the rear. Of course, your mileage may vary.

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I've only got rear stands, if I don't lift up the front, what kind of risk factor am I looking at? I'm estimating I'll only have it off for 5-10 minutes.
It will be absolutely fine. The fork tubes are freaking 43mm. Just sitting there in the garage with only the bottom triple holding it would be fine for decades. Where you might run into problems is with the clip-ons.. hitting the sides of the tank, wires and cables reaching and pinching, etc... but ya never know 'til ya try. Plus it will look silly with a stock upper triple designed for handlebars with no handlebars in mounts. Your call though.

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This is a silly question, but... I have an '02 919, I was wondering if I take the top fork bridge off will I need to raise the front tire off the ground? It shouldn't be an issue if I don't loosen the lower pinch bolts, right? Sorry for the amateur question. Thanks for any help.
No, it won't be a problem... Provided there's no damage or other issues with your front end and you leave the lower tripple pinch bolts alone.
If the fork tubes are even a little bent or out of shape, you might have problems getting the top tripple back on, but it's highly unlikely if you're not having any odd front end issues right now.

Just be sure to keep the bike stable.
Use a paddock stand (rear stand) or center stand if you have it.
If you're really concerned you can take the weight off of the front a little by placing a trolley jack with a block of wood under the headers, under the motor.
There's really no need to do this, but it might help you feel more confident about leaving the bike that way, plus it might help stabilise the bike while you're messing with the fork tubes.
Don't mess with the head bearing nuts unless you know what you're doing.
No offence meant here, but if you need to ask the question in the first place, (and there's nothing wrong with asking) then you're probably not ready to mess with steering preloads etc that's all. So don't mess with 'em.

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buddy go ahead take it off, if you can get the big chrome nut off/on without wrecking it, those lower clamps can hold up a truck. use a bungy to hook onto the front brake master from above while its off, better than letting it hang down.

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i'd like to see pictures or results after u have this is done and your opinions..

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There you go. All kinds of opinions. Just don't set on it .

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If you're still worried about removing the top triple, I used a sturdy block of wood under the engine with a jack on either side of the board to get the front unloaded. Saves the exhaust and picks up the front nicely.

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I appreciate all the input guys, I remember why I joined this forum now. I'll definately post some pics when I get it all buttoned up. As far as clearance issues with the tank, I got some clip-ons with about a two inch rise to them, if that makes any sense. And the TT clamp, I've got friend who runs a CNC lathe that hopefully will mill down the posts that are for the handlebars. I'll keep everyone posted, and pics when I get it done.

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Sounds really awesome! Can't wait to see it. I think Bigassbertha had clip-ons too(though he had RC51 forks). Maybe he could help with any line routing issues that may or may not come up.

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You can take the top yoke off no problem without doing anything with supporting the front. But, if you don't already have clip-ons, buy the Woodcraft 43mm ones, they are totally trick looking, and the clamp is two pieces so you don't have to take the triple off anyway. They're priced reasonably too.

If you don't put the clip-ons far enough out, they will hit the tank. And be prepared to have a lot more pressure on your arms.

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Looking at the posts on my top triple, it looks like the posts are cast in. If you stick your finger underneath, there is a hole that goes up into the post. Maybe some sort of cap arrangement?

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Here are some pics of the clipon stuff...
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Here are some pics of the clipon stuff...
Looks awesome! Although, it hurts me just to look at it.

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Note that these are *old* pictures, I don't run the bike like that anymore for various reasons... It was a short trial run.

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Those clip on's look awsome, but very painful.

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I agree with the others that the clip-ons look badass but look uncomfortable without a rise. He mentioned that his clip-ons have a 2 inch rise, and I've seen others that offer at least that much rise so that should help a bit.
Be sure to post pics - I'm curious to see how it turns out.

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Note that these are *old* pictures, I don't run the bike like that anymore for various reasons... It was a short trial run.
So what are those reasons? Did you just sell the Woodcrafts then?

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The reasons I didn't run the clipons:

1) It was hard to ride two-up, too much pressure on my arms
2) The clip-ons hit the tank in the position I wanted them in (could have pushed them out more, but...)
3) I didn't want to mod the upper triple to be flat
4) I didn't want mod the steering stops
5) I didn't like the look of the big guages hanging out there, I wanted a lower profile. I've since fixed that... but it's too late now.

Yes, I sold the clipons to an f4i owner. Don't get me wrong though, if I fixed what I stated above, it would have looked and felt great, it was really fun to ride it like that, way sporty.

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Would another way to fit clipons be to just drop the forks down install them on the tubes then put the forks back into the triples?

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Looking at the posts on my top triple, it looks like the posts are cast in. If you stick your finger underneath, there is a hole that goes up into the post. Maybe some sort of cap arrangement?
There was a post a while back from someone who cut off the handlebar mounts and had the resulting holes welded up. Since one of the photos was of the finished triple painted and installed, I assume it did not warp enough to trash it. Looked very good, too. I just wish I could find the post.

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There was a post a while back from someone who cut off the handlebar mounts and had the resulting holes welded up. Since one of the photos was of the finished triple painted and installed, I assume it did not warp enough to trash it. Looked very good, too. I just wish I could find the post.

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I don't remember where that post is either, but it was a very nice job! He had it welded from underneath to fill the hole and cut the bar clamps off and ground the entire top of the clamp smooth. It looked like it came from the factory that way. Very professional looking!!!

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Not that it's a big deal because these are really old posts, but here is the thread that you guys are talking about: Link.

I dredged up this thread because I am curious about installing clip-ons and my question seemed to fit here.

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