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post #1 of 23 Old 05-23-2006, 11:10 AM Thread Starter
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sato rearsets...well whaddya know

haven't had much saddle time on the 919, but i did finally bolted on a set of used sato rearsets and have about 200 miles on them now

to be honest, i wasn't expecting much other than a change in peg position...yeah, i heard about the ball bearing shifter and the improvement it made, but wasn't sure how much of a difference, if i would even be able to feel it let alone appreciate it...have woodcrafts on the track bike, nothin special, no big deal

well, first time out w/ the satos, what a difference in shifting, haven't heard many people talk about it but dang it's sweet...played around w/ the GP setup just for fun...it's almost disappointing that you don't have to shift the 919 more often, the satos give such quick, positive engagement and now pay attention to loading the shifter and timing the shift more instead of just mashing down on the stock shifter

are they the best match for a street ride? maybe, maybe not, seriously consider the peg position, but if you're constantly draggin the feelers, have a look at this option for sure, you just might be surprised by the improvement

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post #2 of 23 Old 05-23-2006, 03:55 PM
 
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Combo that with a Repsol full synth. oil change and you will shift up and down throught the gears without leaving the neighborhood just cause IT FEELS SO GOOD!!

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Ratdog,

They are sweet rear-sets. Here is a bonus feature they don't mention in the brochure or installation manual that you may have overlooked.
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I like to call it "Sato Rash!"



Watch out for those buggers around the garage... they stick out, don't flex even a little, are very sharp... and here is the best part... they will always win in a fight against your flesh.



Enjoy!

P.S. That's eight perfectly spaced scratch lines.. I bled plenty

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lol. my Sato rash is nearly healed from last week. Nasty little bastards of pegs, huh?

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post #5 of 23 Old 05-24-2006, 08:02 PM
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Very much improved. Went from a sloppy "slide" into the gear change to a very "snickety" feel with zero play now in the shift linkage. Didn't anticipate such a huge change in the feedback from the pegs, but it's great. Must be the bearings?

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How much further back are these pegs versus the stock pegs? And are they difficult to install?

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They are 10mm back & 20mm up than stock, but are adjustable up to 30mm back & 40mm up.

Takes about 30-45 minutes to install, very easy.

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They are 10mm back & 20mm up than stock, but are adjustable up to 30mm back & 40mm up.

Takes about 30-45 minutes to install, very easy.
That doesnt sound like very much of a change. Is the mod more for the performance of the shifting than the positioning?

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That is a significant change. I would say the mod is for whatever you want it to be, but it is good for both. When you drag a peg, you will realize how much 20mm really is. It also improves your riding position and center of gravity for hard riding. I think this all makes sense. Correct me if I am wrong. Not that I had to give any permission for that.

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That doesnt sound like very much of a change. Is the mod more for the performance of the shifting than the positioning?
What? 10mm back & 20mm up from stock in the first position and 4 more adjustments all the way to up to 30mm back & 40mm up isn't much of a change? um.. 40mm! That's 1.57 inches higher than stock and 30mm back is over an inch. That's plenty of change.

The Sato rear-sets are a serious high end race worthy upgrade. In fact. The quality exceeds anything the 919 is actually worthy of having when compared to a more capable bike for racing. It's like putting "Z" rated tires on a car that can't break 85 MPH. I have the Sato rear-sets... couldn't really justify them true.. but I had the extra cash and they are so damn smooth. It's about quality for me I guess? I wasn't dragging pegs with the stock pegs.. maybe sometimes my toe, but I am glad I upgraded. Besides.. wanted to loose the silly passenger pegs.


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...And are they difficult to install?
As far as how difficult they are to install. If you have to ask the question then you either have very limited mechanical ability, or haven't actually looked at how simple the stock foot peg assembly fits on the bike. One look at the setup and you can see how simple it is. If it seems overwhelmingly complex, then I recommend having them professionally installed? Asking how difficult something is to do is subjective. It will depend on who you ask about what. Ask a heart surgeon how difficult is a triple by-pass and he will smile. Ask the same guy to help you fix the tail light wiring on your trailer and he might look at you like you are crazy! A good rule to follow is this: If you have to ask, then probably yes, it is too difficult for you. Now if you ask something specific, like: "Do I have to bleed the rear brake line if I install the brake light switch?" That question would indicate a general understanding of the task at hand. Not to be rude here.. but your questions and comments kinda make me think you are just a end-user type and not a tinkerer. Which is fine. That's why there are shops and machanics. BTW, I can't do a triple by-pass.... I would probably get that professionally done.

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Sato rearsets and suburban bars were the first things I put on my 919. Coming from a 929, I didnt feel comfortable riding the twisties in such an upright position on the bike.

The Satos are great! The most "complicated" thing to install is the rear brake light switch thing. I didnt even bother to bleed my rear brake, it seemed fine, and I dont really use my rear brake that often anyway. Otherwise it's pretty much just a "bolt on" accessory.

Expensive, but they look sweet and they work flawlessly.

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Not to be rude here.. but your questions and comments kinda make me think you are just a end-user type and not a tinkerer. Which is fine. That's why there are shops and machanics. BTW, I can't do a triple by-pass.... I would probably get that professionally done.

Ya know, my mechanical experience has all come from looking at the way things are put together and figuring it out from there. Do you think I could do a triple-bypass with the same method?

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Ya know, my mechanical experience has all come from looking at the way things are put together and figuring it out from there. Do you think I could do a triple-bypass with the same method?
Of course. Go for it!
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Ya know, my mechanical experience has all come from looking at the way things are put together and figuring it out from there. Do you think I could do a triple-bypass with the same method?
Practice on yourself first.

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"Ask a heart surgeon how difficult is a triple by-pass and he will smile. Ask the same guy to help you fix the tail light wiring on your trailer and he might look at you like you are crazy! "

I resent that...I am two years away from being able to do a triple bypass and I can pull that macine apart every day over and over again. Although I can honestly say that there isn't a single other person at my school that even knows what a carbeurator is, so well said, bravo!

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I resent that...I am two years away from being able to do a triple bypass and I can pull that macine apart every day over and over again. Although I can honestly say that there isn't a single other person at my school that even knows what a carbeurator is, so well said, bravo!
Man.. two years is a long time... you'll forget!


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What's a couple mistakes here and there...?

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What's a couple mistakes here and there...?
A malpractice suit?

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As far as how difficult they are to install. If you have to ask the question then you either have very limited mechanical ability, or haven't actually looked at how simple the stock foot peg assembly fits on the bike. One look at the setup and you can see how simple it is. If it seems overwhelmingly complex, then I recommend having them professionally installed? Asking how difficult something is to do is subjective. It will depend on who you ask about what. Ask a heart surgeon how difficult is a triple by-pass and he will smile. Ask the same guy to help you fix the tail light wiring on your trailer and he might look at you like you are crazy! A good rule to follow is this: If you have to ask, then probably yes, it is too difficult for you. Now if you ask something specific, like: "Do I have to bleed the rear brake line if I install the brake light switch?" That question would indicate a general understanding of the task at hand. Not to be rude here.. but your questions and comments kinda make me think you are just a end-user type and not a tinkerer. Which is fine. That's why there are shops and machanics. BTW, I can't do a triple by-pass.... I would probably get that professionally done.
I think Lord Duckhunter answered this question, but at least your fingers got a good workout. Thanks!

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I think Lord Duckhunter answered this question, but at least your fingers got a good workout. Thanks!
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A malpractice suit?
Bock919,

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Bock919,

Your avatar scares me!
It's a hornet...scary close.

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That is a significant change. I would say the mod is for whatever you want it to be, but it is good for both. When you drag a peg, you will realize how much 20mm really is. It also improves your riding position and center of gravity for hard riding. I think this all makes sense. Correct me if I am wrong. Not that I had to give any permission for that.
+1!

It also needs to be pointed out that solid mount foot pegs serve as frame sliders in the event you do drop the bike. Trust me I have crash tested several sets of Sato Rearsets on various bikes now...

I originally put them on just for ground clearance issues alone as I was griding down the pegs & levers playing with the real sportbikes every Sunday morning


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