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post #1 of 14 Old 08-31-2006, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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Rough shifting?

Hi, this is my first post here. I bought my 2006 919 about a week ago. since then I have loved riding it and it is simply a wonderful bike to own. although this is my first street bike I have noticed it seems to shift quite rough. Take for example, if I am in neutral waiting for a light to change the shift to first seems very rough(like a clunck). also shifting to the other gears seem to be rough. Does anyone know if this is normal or should I take it to the dealer ship and have them look at it?

Also the front breaks seam to squeel/groan? any help would be appriciated.

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post #2 of 14 Old 08-31-2006, 09:33 PM
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They do shift a little clunky at first but it could be you gettting used to the bike as well. Stay in gear at the lights. Downshift through all the gears while rolling & let the clutch out at least a little even if not doing full engine braking. The first downshift into first from neutral when cold will always be a little clunky do to the clutch sticking a little. It will get better in a few thousand miles.

The brakes are normal too. Its worse when new but I can still hear mine at slow speed with the clutch in.

There are two other noises you didnt mention on a 919:

When rolling on the throttle in the low to mid RPM you will swear something is wrong in the top end--it isn't. Some say its injector noise, some say airbox noise but bottom line is its normal.

The other when idling in neutral you can pull the clutch in & out & there will be a noise that comes & goes with it. Also normal.

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Yea!! I notice both those noises but, I drove a suzuki on/off road for a while and talk about a noisy top end.
Also I drive an 03 mitsubishi eclipse with a terrible throw out bearing noise when the car is in neutral and the clutch is not engaged.
Anyway thanks for the reply!

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after your break in is finished... give your tranny some lovin...

amsoil fully synthetic motorcycle blend. your tranny will love you forever.

I had alot of thrashing and mashing with my shifter until it got a bath in amsoil.. smooth as glass now.

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Jason - I'm just getting into an '06 919 myself. If it's like other bikes I have owned, it will smooth out over time. My last bike didn't really feel broken in until it was 10K. You may want to check the oil level just to make sure it's good, and when going into first at a stop that your clutch is fully engaged.

And a +1 on the synth oil after break-in. I've never used Amsoil, but am a big fan of Mobil One Gold Cap.

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A shift from neutral to 1st. when completely stopped will clunk , always has always will. As far as shifting through the gears, I would like to call it a "learning curve." Experiment shifting at various RPM's while slightly loading the shift pedal, you will be surprised in the difference. Make sure there is not a lot of free play in the clutch lever. I like to set mine no more than 3/8" a gentle two finger pull is all that is needed to initiate a smooth shift.

Brake squeal/groan have been reported, this annoying problem appears to dissipate the more miles you rack up.

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Boy... Not tryin to brag... but I must have gotten lucky. I haven't had any strange noises on my 06. Things have been quiet on all fronts. The only issue that I can corraborate is the touchy throttle. But I'm still new to the bike and I'm getting a good handle on controlling it. And it's really only and issue at freeway speeds.

I'm just under 3K on the miles and I've got a gallon of the Amsol Full Synth... Will probably drop it in during the next oil change or the one after that.

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stiggy8, your's is broken. It's got two cans of STP in the crankcase and will shortly seize up!

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I dont understand the touchy throttle thing, I always ride with two fingers on the brake to stabilize my wrist and throttle hand as well as the obvious prepared thing!
The RC51 couldn't be ridden any other way without it being a real jerky ride, the 9er is tame by comparison!

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Hey! I just noticed I'm not a rookie anymore.
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The only time I really notice the throttle issue is coming down a hill at about 75 MPH and I'm starting to slow down. With a bit of a bumpy road... the bike will start to lurch a bit if I don't concentrate on keeping the throttle steady. It's really more of a bumpy road issue once you learn to control the throttle!

and by the way... that STP stuff must be really good s__t! Workin wonders in my baby!


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Thanks for the info guys! I started working on the clutch thing today, it's amazing how much better it shifts with the clutch only half way in. I also have been working with the rpm's a bit and things are turning out great!
Also just changed my oil today(484 miles on it), went with the honda stock 10w-40, so the better oil will have to wait till about 2k miles. I'm going on a 500 hundred mile ride sunday so she should be good and broke in when I get back.

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post #13 of 14 Old 09-02-2006, 02:06 AM
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You should find that shifting at around the 4k rpm mark or higher will be smoother than below about the 3k mark.
This doesn't mean these are the rpms to change at, only that this will show you what Mike meant about trying different rpms to change at. Different RPMs and different load conditions can sometimes mean a slightly different shift technique will be better than another at that time.
As for loading the shift lever, the word slightly should be taken a lot of notice of. Personally, I don't think loading the lever is the best way to get a good life span out of a gearbox, but provided you're not doing it too much, you should be pretty right.

As for the oil... Stick with the standard goo untill you've got about 10k on the clock,(sorry, that's Ks not miles) then switch to a good fully synth. Don't switch to full synth too soon while the motor and gearbox are running in. There's a heap of discussions on this topic on this and other forums.

Enjoy yer 9er dude!

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Thanks for the info guys! I started working on the clutch thing today, it's amazing how much better it shifts with the clutch only half way in. I also have been working with the rpm's a bit and things are turning out great!
Also just changed my oil today(484 miles on it), went with the honda stock 10w-40, so the better oil will have to wait till about 2k miles. I'm going on a 500 hundred mile ride sunday so she should be good and broke in when I get back.
I just went over 2k on mine a couple of days ago, and she is still not broken in. I have noticed that shifting gets smoother, probably some learning curve and some breaking in. I am waiting until my next oil change to switch to synthetic, which will probably only be another thousand miles. I was running the honda stuff, and my poor bike didn't like it too much after about 1300 miles. The stuff broke down something fierce here in the San Antonio heat. I am switching to full synth as soon as possible.

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