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post #1 of 29 Old 09-29-2006, 05:22 PM Thread Starter
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Question Pitbull Rear Stand Problem

OK, I just picked up a Pitbull rear stand for my 919. It was used and was a great deal......

My problem, when I had my SV, it had spools, nice and easy.....

OF course our 919's dont, and when I raise the rear of the bike using the round rubber coated ends....... the bike slides down the stand. It's like there is not enough grip/friction to hold the stand near the rear of the bike.

Has anyone ever had this problem? I dont trust the stand now, and I know Pitbulls are great stands...

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You have the wrong kind of rear stand for this application. Either you have to weld on the threaded metal for spools or you have to sell me that one really cheap and then buy this type: Link

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You have the wrong kind of rear stand for this application. Either you have to weld on the threaded metal for spools or you have to sell me that one really cheap and then buy this type: Link

Thats the stand I have

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Sell it to me anyways.

Adjust the stand so that it doesn't slip off. The rubber should grip it unless the rubber is worn out or has some chemical on it? Just put some Shoe Goo stuff on there and it should grip good... no, really.

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Well, when I picked up the stand, the previous owner had it pretty greasy, I wiped it down.
Tomm I will rough it up with some sandpaper and make sure the bottom of the swingarm is clean.

ShooGoo..... hmmmm , might be a great idea

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I have the same stand and seems to do OK. This is my first bike with a centerstand and it's really cut down on the need for a rear stand.

One day I'm gonna bite the bullet and drill holes in the swingarm for spools.

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I have the same stand and seems to do OK. This is my first bike with a centerstand and it's really cut down on the need for a rear stand.

One day I'm gonna bite the bullet and drill holes in the swingarm for spools.
I just dont have the guts to take a drill to my swingarm

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I just dont have the guts to take a drill to my swingarm
Yeah, me neither. But it sure would be nice. Not having spools almost kept me from getting the 919.

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Maybe that center stand would be a good buy. Even if you dont' want to ride around on it you could put it on when you need to do some work then take it off. It won't be as quick but it should work good.

I had a center stand on my EX500 and it was great. I could even take out the rear shock with it. Something you can't do with a swing arm stand.

So, who makes the center stand? Honda? Or is it aftermarket?

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Honda makes one and so does SW Motech.

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Do they use up any/much ground clearance?

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Do they use up any/much ground clearance?
I don't own one (doesn't work with 900RR exhaust) but I'm told they don't create ground clearance issues unless you do track days. Even then, you'd probably need aftermarket rearsets to be able to really start scraping the stand. As it is, the stock pegs touch down pretty easily on just street riding.

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......when I raise the rear of the bike using the round rubber coated ends......
Are you sure the pic Ragdoll posted is the same as the one you got? From what you wrote above, you mentioned a round end, not the angle bracket (flat contact point) end in Ragdoll's pic. Is the mechanism that contacts the swingarm round or flat like the pic?

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Are you sure the pic Ragdoll posted is the same as the one you got? From what you wrote above, you mentioned a round end, not the angle bracket (flat contact point) end in Ragdoll's pic. Is the mechanism that contacts the swingarm round or flat like the pic?
Oh yeah, I should have asked that.

You need one like this:


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Positive......

Pitbull doesnt use flat angle pieces



They are all like that..... Flat on the side, but round where the swingarm sits

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I am thinking there was just too much grease left over on the rubber part.....

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Positive......

Pitbull doesnt use flat angle pieces



They are all like that..... Flat on the side, but round where the swingarm sits
EEERRRT, wrong. Dude, you have the wrong one. Pit Bull DOES use flat angle ones.


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Positive......

Pitbull doesnt use flat angle pieces



They are all like that..... Flat on the side, but round where the swingarm sits
I think that's the one for the Duc 999.

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LOL......... your killing me..

These are the Duc ones



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http://www.pit-bull.com/catalog/inde...887cac1b6dd766

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I think that's the one for the Duc 999.
Looks that way, doesn't it? No matter, you can contact PitBull and get new flat ends for it. You'll be ready to roll... in place.

Or, sell that stand to me and buy a new one

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Actually, I just looked thru the Pitbull site. You have the SS Rear stand, not the Standard Rear stand, which has a flat contact plate.

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Actually, I just looked thru the Pitbull site. You have the SS Rear stand, not the Standard Rear stand, which has a flat contact plate.
SS ofcourse stands for Super Stupid... why make anything except nonspooled and spooled? Goodnight folks.

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Do they use up any/much ground clearance?
I haven't had any issues yet. I have the preload cranked all the way up on both ends to get me in the 30mm range for static sag. This made the bike noticeably taller, which I think is helping to cause. But maybe I'm just slow.

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gt ...i have the pitbull stand

i'm using the flats that these guys are talkin about

it still slides, just not as much as your setup

i only have issues w/ it in the rain (and not to many folks are lifting their bikes up on a rear stand in the rain...say like at the track)

under normal conditions, once the bike is on the stand...i can literally drag the ass end around by the stand, so it stays put good enough for work

ideally...spools r the way to go

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if u'r worried about clearance issues w/ the stock Centerstand, there is a HowTo on converting the OEM centerstand to an easily removed item for those days u think u might be draggin hard parts

i don't have the howto link handy...think it was on RevCycho's site??

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The stock pegs hit the deck long before the c-stand does.

Has anyone here ever actually drug the centerstand???

If the contact points on your PitBull are shot, replace them with automotive heater core hose. Keep it grease free and dry and it'll never move.

I love my centerstand but the extra clearance you get with the PitBull makes changing the rear tire much easier.

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those ones with the round ends are the combination stands.they'll work with spools or not.i got one if anyone wants it.i bought the centerstand and dont need it anymore.

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I have the same stand with the same ends for my FZR400 racebike (also has no spools) and you can do what I did. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and get some stair tread grip tape and put it on the bottom of your swingarm. You can't see it and it creates enough friction that my bike has been on the stand now for over a year

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I have the same stand with the same ends for my FZR400 racebike (also has no spools) and you can do what I did. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and get some stair tread grip tape and put it on the bottom of your swingarm. You can't see it and it creates enough friction that my bike has been on the stand now for over a year
I cleaned the bottom of the swingarm and the rubber contacts, seems to be fine now...... but I love that idea...

I will get some and do that....

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