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post #1 of 28 Old 07-02-2015, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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Paddock Stand Question

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Quick one here - the buyer for my RC51 is also taking my old paddock stands with it (the RC has spools, and the rear stand is made for that). I'll be replacing them, and I'm considering these guys :

Front Fork Rear Paddle Wheel Lift Paddock Stands Universal Motorcycle Combo | eBay

(Compatibility list thingy says it's not compatible with the 919, but I find that excessively hard to believe....)

Anybody have those? From some of the pictures I've seen, looks like some do. My question is thus (and I kinda feel stupid asking it) : how exactly does the front one work? Do the forks rest on the two rubber pins, assuming said pins are placed on a horizontal plane? Or is there something I'm missing?

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post #2 of 28 Old 07-02-2015, 02:22 PM
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I don't have a front one, but I think the pins are designed to cradle the ends of the forks, under and in front, such that the forks can't slip or move once the weight is on them
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I have a version of those stands; they work like Kiwi says. I got the version that has triple tree lift attachment as well; it comes in handy if you ever need to service the forks and don't have a center stand.

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Triple tree stands are better, IMO. You can't do much but lift the bike with a front stand that lifts only by the forks. Maybe clean the wheel, but the stand that lifts the lower triple is easy to use, so I don't see the need for just the 'lift by the fork' method.

Someone correct me if I am just not seeing the need...

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.. I got the version that has triple tree lift attachment as well; it comes in handy if you ever need to service the forks and don't have a center stand...
That'd be a feature worth having, I reckon

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Re Front Lifts
Triple tree pin lift much better as front end aside from triples and head set can all be removed.
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I got nice spiffy blocks welded to the swing arm, drilled and tapped to receive lift spools.
Next best for a 919 is stand with sticky grippy lift tabs.
Some have drilled the hollow section and mounted spools that way.
I've never heard of a subsequent problem, but I'd never do that.

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Whoa! I never even knew those lower-triple front stands even existed!! That's most certainly what I'd like, as replacing the forks is precisely one of the things I was going to do (I was just thinking of using two jacks supporting a 2X4 under the engine or something, with the exhaust of course off). I'll do some research and see if those are also available from eBay - I now know Venom does make a triple tree version, which is most certainly the one I'd get. Thanks for pointing me in this direction!

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Are there some brands that are supposed to be "better" for stands?

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Some have drilled the hollow section and mounted spools that way.
I've never heard of a subsequent problem, but I'd never do that.
Yeah, I did it that way, it was pretty straightforward. It was amongst my few experiences of tapping threads, so I did it slowly and with great care, and haven't had any issues with the spools since. Used lots of Loctite in the assembly, and it has been fit-and-forget.

I'm surprised how much I prefer putting the bike on that stand, actually - because it's so easy to do, I just do it all the time in the garage. A centred, levelled bike is just nicer to work on, somehow.

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Are there some brands that are supposed to be "better" for stands?
PitBull is good stuff, but more expensive, design fit and finish justifies it.
I have a bunch of Woodcraft fronts and one rear.
The Woodcraft fronts work great.
So do their rears, even if they still make them with bendable tangs for custom fitting of different spool widths as mine is.
I bought 2 Vortex stupid cheap.
They are built like tanks, are adjustable and have wider track for better stability.
BUT their geometry sucks, the leverage ratio is much stiffer.
It takes way less effort to lift the rear heavy and heavy 919 as compared to the GSXR track bike.

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PHOBSTAND, NOTHING ELSE NEEDED!
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PHOBSTAND, NOTHING ELSE NEEDED!
Unless you have other bikes

But yes, on the 919, the Phobman does an excellent job!

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PHOBSTAND, NOTHING ELSE NEEDED!
...except for the trolley jack under the headers

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PHOBSTAND, NOTHING ELSE NEEDED!
Shameless plug!

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I have two sets of T-Rex stands, front and rear. They are REALLY strong, and I use them to keep the wheels off the ground during the off season. I think the T-Rex rear stands were just on sale for $50 or something silly cheap like that.

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You are most correct - I called them, and they have front and rear silver stands at 45$ a piece. However, this is for non-triple-tree front version, and spooled back. I wanted non-spooled and triple tree. I ended up ordering the generic Venom stuff on eBay - we'll see how that goes.

But, I did look at those T-Rex stands after you mentioned them - quite sexy, and visibly of better quality than what I got. Thanks for mentioning, hopefully someone else can benefit from this.

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What are the dimensions of the Phobstand? I wonder if one could be made to work with my VFR1200. Preferably with no modifications...



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What are the dimensions of the Phobstand? I wonder if one could be made to work with my VFR1200. Preferably with no modifications...
it will cost the same as oem center stand. You should get one if you don't have one yet.

I want a frame stand but can't justify it currently since I got all kinds of stands already


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Part of me thinks it would be awesome to have one, but the other part knows I would trip over one of the casters and kill myself.

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it will cost the same as oem center stand. You should get one if you don't have one yet.

I want a frame stand but can't justify it currently since I got all kinds of stands already

That doesn't look like a Tuono

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Abba lifts are pretty sweet as well



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Abba lifts are pretty sweet as well


That is one incredible lift/stand right there.

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Wow that abba stand has certainly caught my attention!!!

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I'd bet it catches the credit card's attention too.

But it is an absolutely gorgeous piece of kit.

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ABBA Sky Lift CBR VTR VFR Hornet CB1000R RVF Fireblade 400 929 750 SP1 SP2 NC30 | eBay

A pretty penny, but still actually not as bad as I would have originally thought.

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Stand for 919

I have a stand similar to the one in post #1 and it works great in lifting front or rear. Note: DO NOT TRY TO LIFT THE FRONT OFF THE GROUND WITHOUT SOLID SUPPORT UNDER THE REAR. Like a dumb ass, I tried and ended up dropping the bike into the dry wall of the garage. I never liked the cradle method of fork support so I remove the screw cap from the right side of the axle and insert one of the prongs of the cradles into the opening on each side. BUT ONLY AFTER HAVING MY PHOBMAN STAND SECURELY UNDER THE BIKE. I wrapped one of the prongs with several wraps of tape to create a more snug fit into the axle but that may not have been necessary. Just paranoid after my first stupid attempt (see above).

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And to think, all these years i have been hanging mine from two big ass eye bolts in my ceiling.

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phobman and steps!

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