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New big Triumphs

Farkin' hell!

I wouldn't, but I can at least see why someone might.

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I reckon Honda should have a lash at the power-cruiser segment

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Sorry...I'm still drooling over that Triumph.
It's completely ridiculous. I want one.

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~820cc per cylinder. Nice. They look like they'd be comfy on a long cruise, yet still be fun in the curves. I wonder what a turbo could do for one of these...?

Not a bike for me, but would love to go for a good ride on one, at least once.

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Not a bike for me, but would love to go for a good ride on one, at least once.
Yes, I feel the same way.

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More pics and details, no ride report :-(

https://thebikeshed.cc/triumph-rocket-3/

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Bloody hell, mates!
What a corruption of the iconic BSA badged "Rocket 3" !!!!!!
(The Trident being the Triumph variant at the time.)
I'll bet the present owners of the BSA brand name are frothing over likely not having a lock on "Rocket 3".

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Bloody hell, mates!
What a corruption of the iconic BSA badged "Rocket 3" !!!!!!
(The Trident being the Triumph variant at the time.)
I'll bet the present owners of the BSA brand name are frothing over likely not having a lock on "Rocket 3".

The present owners of the BSA brand name are doing no such thing. The current owners of the BSA motorcycle trademarks have no real connection to the old company as (just like John Bloor's Triumph) they bought the rights from a bankruptcy sale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.S.A._Company


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BSA Company Limited is a motorcycle manufacturer which purchased rights to the BSA name from Birmingham Small Arms Company's successor, Dennis Poore's Manganese Bronze Holdings, upon the liquidation of Norton Villiers Triumph in 1978.


Further, they are likely to put the BSA name on far, far, far worse hardware.


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In October 2016, Mahindra Group of India bought BSA for 3.4 million.[1] Mahindra Group makes small-capacity motorcycles and scooters in India, through its subsidiary Mahindra Two Wheelers. Mahindra Group also owns a majority stake in France's Peugeot Motocycles, and it has reintroduced JAWA motorcycles in India launching two models, Jawa and Jawa 42, while they will launch another model Perak by mid next year.

So, would you rather see this Rocket III? Or would you rather see it attached to, oh, a 250cc scooter?


It should also be mentioned that historically, BSA bought the Tridents from Triumph and slapped the Rocket III badge on it, not the other way around.

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The present owners of the BSA brand name are doing no such thing. The current owners of the BSA motorcycle trademarks have no real connection to the old company as (just like John Bloor's Triumph) they bought the rights from a bankruptcy sale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.S.A._Company






Further, they are likely to put the BSA name on far, far, far worse hardware.





So, would you rather see this Rocket III? Or would you rather see it attached to, oh, a 250cc scooter?


It should also be mentioned that historically, BSA bought the Tridents from Triumph and slapped the Rocket III badge on it, not the other way around.
I'd simply rather see the bike badged as something else, and Rocket' kept for use with something fitting its heritage.

As for the triples, my understanding all along was that BSA bought the engines from Triumph, which makes sense because at that time, I doubt BSA could have financed a new engine program.

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I'd simply rather see the bike badged as something else, and Rocket' kept for use with something fitting its heritage.

As for the triples, my understanding all along was that BSA bought the engines from Triumph, which makes sense because at that time, I doubt BSA could have financed a new engine program.



They basically bought an 80%+ completed bike from Triumph and added cosmetic/styling bits - or that was my understanding.


As for the name, nobody in the mainstream buying market today remembers Trident except in regards to chewing gum and maybe in conjunction with nuclear missiles. If you check the Wikipedia article on the Rocket III, you'll see that they focus grouped the name and what came out of the focus groups was, "Don't call it a Trident, call it the Rocket."

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They basically bought an 80%+ completed bike from Triumph and added cosmetic/styling bits - or that was my understanding.


As for the name, nobody in the mainstream buying market today remembers Trident except in regards to chewing gum and maybe in conjunction with nuclear missiles. If you check the Wikipedia article on the Rocket III, you'll see that they focus grouped the name and what came out of the focus groups was, "Don't call it a Trident, call it the Rocket."
Speaking of Wikipedia, I see they also have a page for the BSA Rocket 3 / Triumph Trident.
There's some really interesting tidbits there and it seems we both have it wrong.
BSA made all the engines, not Triumph.
The BSA had a twin cradle tube frame, while the Triumph had a single down tube design.
The BSA engine was canted forward in the frame, with the cylinders appearing slanted.
The Triumph engine was mounted flat, with the cylinders appearing vertical.
The Triumph engine remained mounted as such until 1975.
Interesting history, that's for sure.

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