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post #1 of 36 Old 02-28-2012, 01:56 PM Thread Starter
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Need to restore '05 919...has sat for waaaay too long.

I just found this forum last week while trying for hours to find the repair manual for my '05 919. I didn't know there were this many people out there with this bike with such knowledge of how to fix/maintain them. Finally!!

So here's my problem. I got this bike brand new. Rode it for years, put 18k miles on it. Did oil changes, tires, had the chain replaced once or twice, but never any maintenance. Wife, kids, two jobs, blah blah blah. Never got done. About three years ago, I was riding through a gas station close to work getting breakfast tacos. I had them in my lap, and a car pulled out in front of me. Tried to pull in the clutch and grab the tacos at the same time. Coughed and stalled out. Had some trouble starting it back up. When I did it ran pretty rough. Got off work and rode home. When I throttled up, right around the mid range, it started bucking and jerking, like it was struggling to get through the rpms. When it got past, it was fine, but every time I hit the mid range, the same problem would occur. I was going through a divorce from said wife, and I didn't have the funds to put it in the shop. So it sat. For three years. I am supremely ashamed of this.

Now I've found a manual and am ready to get this thing fixed. I've looked over the threads and can't really find a related topic.

Basically what I'm asking for is, what does the first problem sound like? Next, what steps should I take to get this thing back into working condition so I can ride again. It's in the mid 60's here in Central Texas and I'm about to explode if I can't ride soon. I'm sure it involves emptying the gas tank and cleaning out the FI sytem. How should I go about doing that? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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post #2 of 36 Old 02-28-2012, 02:14 PM
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hmmm... I don't know if it could be plugs, maybe Fuel Pressure Regulator.. Some of our more mechanical friends will post here soon

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Hello and welcome! The bucking/jerking issue sounds like it could be the fuel pressure regulator, search here, it's well documented. Also, take a look here, lots of info:

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You ride with breakfast tacos on your lap??
Haha. My work was basically in the same parking lot. Didn't have a bag to put it in either. I have done it numerous times, sometimes I drop them, sometimes I don't.

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What's the rule for breakfast tacos dropped off of a 919? 10 seconds?

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somebody needs to fabricate a taco holder




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post #8 of 36 Old 02-28-2012, 04:34 PM
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Let me get this straight.

1. Your bike runs perfect.
2. You stop hard with tacos in your lap, and now the bike runs imperfect.

The hard stop, which killed the engine while in gear seems to have been the culprit?

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Before you start addressing your concern, take a look in your gas tank. It took less than 2 years for my tank to become a freaking mess (THANKS ETHANOL!). You'll likely need to take it to a radiator shop and have it double dipped (cleaned and coated).

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You ride with breakfast tacos on your lap??
Better than stuffing them up your ass.

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Better than stuffing them up your ass.
They will end up there shortly.

I don't think the OP story has any revelance to the "then and now." Fire the thing up, run it, and see what you've got. For one thing, your battery is probably dead. You may have bigger problems now.

If it does the same thing, killing it for the saving of breakfast tacos wouldn't have done it. It's was most likely when you got lunch cereal.

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post #12 of 36 Old 02-28-2012, 05:26 PM
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I wouldnt even try to start it untill you empty the gas tank, check the condition of the inside of the tank, and fill with fresh gas. Even with a ton of fuel stabil or star tron gas is only good for the "2 years" they say its good for. I'd even throw in some seafoam (found at auto parts store). That might help clean out the lines and injectors you were not able to drain

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I wouldnt even try to start it untill you empty the gas tank, check the condition of the inside of the tank, and fill with fresh gas. Even with a ton of fuel stabil or star tron gas is only good for the "2 years" they say its good for. I'd even throw in some seafoam (found at auto parts store). That might help clean out the lines and injectors you were not able to drain
+1, especially on the seafoam; it will dissolve carbon deposits and varnish from your tank and injectors.

Change the oil, new battery, pull plugs and clean them, make sure the plug wires are seated good when you put them back in.

She should fire right up! Unless you have a short somewhere in your kill switch; that is a known issue as well. Maybe you bumped it hard in the stop?

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I've always used seafoam in everything I own, motorcycles, atv's, lawnmowers... just don't over use it. It's hard on rubber parts and plastic parts of the fuel system.

Do you still need a copy of the repair manual?

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+1 on the Taco holder.

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WTF is a breakfast Taco?


I wonder if it just over fuelled when you stalled it.

Drain tank, refill if it appears good inside (what you can see of it), battery and push the starter to see what happens. I suspect it will fire up. After that you can oil change it (go on I dare you to start a thread asking 'what oil').

Also - why would you stick a breakfast taco up your arse - surely you'd do that type of thing later in the day after work has finished. What could be worse that working all day long with a taco stuck up your arse, well other than 2 or 3 or 4 tacos I guess.

Is there a world record for the most tacos stuck up ones arse? I'm scared to Google this in case there are photos ..........

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So I Googled Breakfast Taco and found this one - it appears to have a vagina in the middle of it. I wonder if that is where one should stick it ...............
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So I Googled Breakfast Taco and found this one - it appears to have a vagina in the middle of it. I wonder if that is where one should stick it ...............

stick what? are we still talking about tacos?

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Alright, thanks for all the input. Including sticking a taco up your ass. It usually comes out of there in due time anyways. I lost my job a while back and just started another one. As soon as I get caught up I will put some stuff in the tank and try and give things a once over. Thanks for the help!

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Alright, thanks for all the input. Including sticking a taco up your ass. It usually comes out of there in due time anyways. I lost my job a while back and just started another one. As soon as I get caught up I will put some stuff in the tank and try and give things a once over. Thanks for the help!
put stuff in the tank? You can put whatever you want in it and you won't get rid of the water/ethanol in an efficient manner...drain that bastard and start with fresh ass, I mean gas.

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put stuff in the tank? You can put whatever you want in it and you won't get rid of the water/ethanol in an efficient manner...drain that bastard and start with fresh ass, I mean gas.
Who doesn't like fresh ass... I mean gas. Drained it out a couple of days ago. So fresh gas and some SeaFoam would work good?

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Its a good start, though I would skip the sea foam unless it runs rough immediately. Also be sure to check your air filter, having sat that long a mouse may have made a new home.

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worth a try

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Or mount one of these to the bike.



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This is the freaking funniest post I've read in a long time............Brownjellytrail, I'm truly sorry your suffering from both bike and marital issues, but thanks for the post!

I think it the damn tacos! Don't buy from that vendor any more, since his tacos put the whammy on your poor bike!

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What's the rule for breakfast tacos dropped off of a 919? 10 seconds?
I go by LOS (line of sight)... as long as i can keep an eye on them..and see that no mice or cockroaches have molested them/it... its all good! ... maybe thats why i need to drop 20 pounds..

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God this is hilarious. I want to avoid looking like a tool as much as I can. So no wire basket for me. I've learned my lesson when transporting objects. Could the FPR also need to be changed out? Also I found a place online that will pressure clean injectors for $25 each. Good idea? Thanks everyone for the help, especially with the taco holder idea!

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brownjelly, i think you're making this more complicated than it needs to be!

focus first on getting the bike fired up and running. then diagnose any issues you have from that point. dont worry about cycling the injectors, you have very low mileage on them to begin with regardless of how long they sat for.

have you gotten the bike to fire up yet? if not, why?

check battery? check spark plug cables? check kill switch? did you prime fuel pump enough for fuel to get into the throttle body? etc etc. start and stick with the basics for now.

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... Could the FPR also need to be changed out? ...
Hey, I have a used FPR. I changed it out prophylactically; it had not failed when I changed it. All indications are that it works just fine.
You pay for shipping and it's all yours (assuming that I can find it ).

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how many miles do you have on the FPR? I'm not looking to buy one now, but like you, I would like to either install it early, or have it on the shelf. What's the average lifespan of a FPR?

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how many miles do you have on the FPR? ...
Hellifiknow!

20K maybe?

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how many miles do you have on the FPR? I'm not looking to buy one now, but like you, I would like to either install it early, or have it on the shelf. What's the average lifespan of a FPR?
They don't really have a life span. My '02 has the original fpr in it with over 100k miles on it. It either works or it don't.

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