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Need help with custom fender eliminator

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so the bike came used with the werkes fender eliminator but no turn signals nor the wires. So i took it off with the rear cowl and found the signal wires.
The original wires Lb/G (right signal) and G/O(left signal).
In the pictures you can see me holding up the signal wires. The end shows three wires but when i removed the blk plastic covering it i found that there are only two wires and the third and just in there. What is that wire for????
Is that the ground???

My next question is for my new signals. I'm going to attach them just below the license plate. The led's i brought are good for running lights and brake light use but i only want them as blinkers. They come with three wires. Blk for ground, red for brake light, white for running light. can i just hook up the red and blk wires to the two turn signal wires and ignore the ground or do i attach the ground to that third so called fake wire i mention in the above paragraph?

Thanks for you help,
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Hi guys,

so the bike came used with the werkes fender eliminator but no turn signals nor the wires. So i took it off with the rear cowl and found the signal wires.
The original wires Lb/G (right signal) and G/O(left signal).
In the pictures you can see me holding up the signal wires. The end shows three wires but when i removed the blk plastic covering it i found that there are only two wires and the third and just in there. What is that wire for????
Is that the ground???
Your question is not clear in my mind. Are these wires part of the Werks fender eliminator?

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My next question is for my new signals. I'm going to attach them just below the license plate. The led's i brought are good for running lights and brake light use but i only want them as blinkers. They come with three wires. Blk for ground, red for brake light, white for running light. can i just hook up the red and blk wires to the two turn signal wires and ignore the ground or do i attach the ground to that third so called fake wire i mention in the above paragraph?

Thanks for you help,
The signal wires from the bike harness will supply the ground.

Right Signal: +12v, Light Blue > White on LED Signal
Right Signal: Ground, Green > Black on LED Signal

Left Signal: +12v, Orange > White on LED Signal
Left Signal: Ground, Green > Black on LED Signal

You will need a electronic flasher to slow down the blink rate. Some people prefer to have a rapid blink rate, it's your call.
The 919 Helpful Topics has a couple of links to purchase the flasher.

What year is your 919? Reason I'm asking, the 2002 model had the rear signal wires reversed.
BTW: I never did trust crimp connections on a motorcycle. Hard soldered with shrink tubing is the recommended method.

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Mister Mike Thank you!

Your question is not clear in my mind. Are these wires part of the Werks fender eliminator?

I have no idea what the pervious owner had going on. When i looked at the end of each turn signal wires (left/right) i saw three wires but was confused when i saw the connection was made to two wires. T/4 i removed the shrink wrap and found that the third wire was attached to nothing. It was just stuffed into shrink wrap.
Why would he do that???

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The signal wires from the bike harness will supply the ground.

Right Signal: +12v, Light Blue > White on LED Signal
Right Signal: Ground, Green > Black on LED Signal

Left Signal: +12v, Orange > White on LED Signal
Left Signal: Ground, Green > Black on LED Signal

Yes! that's all i wanted to hear. Green is ground. After 2 hours of searching online last night i came to that conculsion but wasn't too sure. Thank you!!!

The bike is a 05'

Thanks for the tip i will do the soldering instead. I've never soldered wires before. Do i twist them together and solder them or do i lay them on each other and solder?

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For future reference, 919 wiring diagram.

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any advice on my soldering question?

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any advice on my soldering question?
Oops.. Sorry I missed your last question.

Strip about 0.5" from each wire to be joined.
Slide a piece of heat shrink tubing onto one of the wires.
Push it back far enough so it does not begin to shrink when soldering.
Twist the 2 wires together as shown.
Heat the bare wires just enough so the solder flows when applied.
Allow to cool, slide the heat shrink tubing over the bare soldered wires.
Apply heat to shrink(I use my wife's hair dryer)

TIP: Practice on scrap wires until you get the hang of it.


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Which fender killer kit lets you use the stock blinkers and does not come with them itty bitty blinkers.
Wife wants fender be gone but I cannot find them anymore. I know it is not the Werks kit.
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