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post #1 of 30 Old 03-11-2009, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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Need a battery

YTZ10S for my 919. Anyone know where the cheapest place is? Local stealers (dealers) quoted me at 175, and 155... I tried jumpstarting it with the car, but it dies as soon as I take one of the jumper cables off. Is there any hope for it? I left the bike running for 5 minutes attached to my car, but it can't sustain itself. I'm assuming it's DEAD.

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post #2 of 30 Old 03-11-2009, 10:36 AM
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You need to charge it will a trickle charger. The battery doesn't charge itself on bike unless you are riding as it takes more then idle for the alternator to charge a battery. If you have deep cycle the battery its probably time for a new one. Trickle chargers are cheaper though. 1-2 amp

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You can buy a cheaper battery, say a "Bikemaster" or whatever I think for around $80-90.

I wouldn't put a Bikemaster battery in my bike though, I'd cough up for the Yuasa.

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Call D&D and see if they can help.
Also, the trickle charger would be my first move.

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post #5 of 30 Old 03-11-2009, 12:14 PM
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Here's another battery question - after you start the bike how much riding is required to maintain it. I'm asking because my bike doesn't even have 2000 miles on it yet and the battery will no longer start the bike.
Until the weather warms up a bit my bike is used only for commuting 2 miles to work. Is 2 miles too little time to top the battery back off after using the starter? or by only going 2 miles every time I start the bike have I just been slowly draining the battery every day.
I have an extra battery that I'm going to put in there, and my commute will change from 2 miles of side streets to 20 miles of freeway when I move in a couple weeks so that should solve the problem.
I'm just curious if only riding a couple miles at a time for a few months will kill your battery.

At least the 919 is easy to jump start!

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mdtoney: A fully charged battery will measure 13 to 13.2 volts DC. A educated guess, your 2 mile ride is doing more harm than good. Get a Battery Tender and plug it when the bike is sitting. The OEM Yuasa battery will last years and years if properly maintained.

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this is just my 2 cents but if and when you you replace battery, get the good yausa, if maintained properly it will last a long time.

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Thanks Mike, I figured as much. I'll put the extra battery (Yausa) in tonight.

The good news is that I close on the house in 2 weeks and my new commute will definitely keep my battery maintained.

Will a battery tender bring the current one back to life? Also, will the Battery Tender Jr. (given to me for my dirt bike) be sufficient for the 919?
http://batterytender.com/default.php?cPath=11_3

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Thanks Mike, I figured as much. I'll put the extra battery (Yausa) in tonight.

The good news is that I close on the house in 2 weeks and my new commute will definitely keep my battery maintained.

Will a battery tender bring the current one back to life? Also, will the Battery Tender Jr. (given to me for my dirt bike) be sufficient for the 919?
http://batterytender.com/default.php?cPath=11_3
Give the battery a chance with the Tender Jr. nothing to loose. In fact some of the techno geeks prefer to use the Jr. model.

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Batteryjack.com batteries for $27 when I bought mine, it's lasting just as well as the original.

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I just bought a Battery Tender Jr. with the harness you leave on the bike. Charging now. Hopefully she just needs a little attention *crossing fingers*

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Thats what I have, just pull in the garage and plug it in and it stays topped off and ready to rock.

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I'll swap batteries tonight then pull the tender off the dirt bike and put it on the depleted battery and see if it'll bring it back to life.

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I bought the Schumaker battery maintainer last month and it seems to work great, but the harness it came with is a little short, meaning I have to take off the side cover or the seat in order to use it. I am going to lengthen them a bit, but I think I also want to add an inline fuse holder. Leaving an unfused line attached to the battery is hard on my peace of mind.

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Ive been informed by several pros....and not battery sales people that jumping your bike battery off a car is a bad idea, and can have some expensive results. Also been told that regular jump starting is pretty bad for ya bike as well.

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Regualr just starting anythign is bad. A big part because having a low battery charge is bad. If you had a good charge, there would be no need to jump it.

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I have had great luck with my OEM batteries. I still have original battery in my 2000 RC51 and I had the original in my 96 900RR until 2006. The only battery that gave me trouble is in my 02 954, it was dead in about 4 years. I replaced it 2 years ago with a Yuasa and it is going strong.

I don't think you can go wrong with either Yuasa or OEM (which I suspect is a Yuasa) Look online at bike bandit, or service honda for OEM and look anywhere for the best Yuasa price you can find.

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Three things I wanted to add/ask:

1) Jumping a bike off a RUNNING car can be dangerous to the bike - the charging system of the car can supply much more current than the bike's battery and electronics can handle. Jumping a bike off a car with the ignition off is not going to harm the battery - the bike 'sees' 12 V, just like when it is starting on its own battery.

2) To the guy having battery problems: how cold does your bike get at night? A battery that is exposed to very low temperatures will have a very short lifespan. (...says the guy who buys a new battery every spring because he is too dumb to admit when the riding season is over, and his bikes inevitably freeze. Sigh.)

3) Someone said jumping the 919 was easy - did I miss something? I had to pull my battery out of the airbox to get at the positive terminal. I didn't look too hard for another place to attach the positive cable but I couldn't see anything really obvious, like a terminal on the starter motor, that I could reach easily. What's the easy way?

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2) To the guy having battery problems: how cold does your bike get at night? A battery that is exposed to very low temperatures will have a very short lifespan. (...says the guy who buys a new battery every spring because he is too dumb to admit when the riding season is over, and his bikes inevitably freeze. Sigh.)
At night it's in a parking garage in my apartment building - the coldest temps in the past few months have been about 20 degrees outside, close to 40 inside. At work it's also in a parking garage which is also about 40 degrees lately. I can see how sitting at 40 degrees and only riding 2 miles whenever I start it could make the battery get weaker and weaker.


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3) Someone said jumping the 919 was easy - did I miss something? I had to pull my battery out of the airbox to get at the positive terminal. I didn't look too hard for another place to attach the positive cable but I couldn't see anything really obvious, like a terminal on the starter motor, that I could reach easily. What's the easy way?
I mentioned that the 919 was easy to jump start, I guess I should have said bump start... I don't use jumper cables and a car battery, I just put it in second gear and run about 50 feet. It usually starts first try, sometimes second.

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goto walmart and buy a battery for the bike... they are 30-60 bucks and they last as good as anything else...

this is like being told you have to buy a diehard for your car...

yuasa is nice but too damn expensive... buy the cheap one and use the leftover cash for a battery tender (20 bucks at walmart) and then take your SO out to dinner with the money you saved..



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+1 on Battery Tender... the Jr. model works great for me.

www.batteriesplus.com used to have a decent price on Yuasa batteries (better than other places, but the battery is still expensive). I was looking everywhere when I thought I needed one. I hadn't ridden more than probably 50 miles in a year (because I lived far away from my bike). Turns out the Batt. Tender Jr. was all I needed. 24 hours of charging and that was all it needed to bring it back to normal.

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Listen to Barton. That's good info. You can't go wrong with any Battery Tender. I have one for all my toys and have never had a battery problem.

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I thought cold/freezing weather was good for batteries? Eh, what do I know..

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for the easy jump starting, couldn't you just pick up another battery adapter then plug it into the adapter connected to the battery and hook your jumper cables to the other end?

I wouldn't know since I also have the Schumacher Battery Maintainer with the adapter installed on the battery.

The leads are a little short, but it only takes a second to pull the seat to use it. I'd rather it be hidden instead of dangling around all over the place.

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The leads are a little short, but it only takes a second to pull the seat to use it. I'd rather it be hidden instead of dangling around all over the place.
I have the same setup. I got tired of pulling the seat to use it. I also have an auxiliary (cigarette lighter type) jack on the bike. I bought a male plug and an SAE Connector from Radio Shack. Makes for an easier hookup.

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I just read the instructions with the Battery Tender. If your battery has under 3 volts it won't charge it, because of some safety issue... Gotta get a new one now....

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ahhh just hook a big charger up to it for an hour or 2, then do the battery tender. battery does not like to bring them back from the dead but u hit it with some juice for a while you just might save it.

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Got a new Yuasa from the Honda dealer today.. Started right up and she ran like she was longing for a good run. Next warm day I'm changing the oil and she'll be completely ready

I just changed the chain and man is it smoother than it was last time I rode

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Cool! Now get out and ride!

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Three things I wanted to add/ask:

1) Jumping a bike off a RUNNING car can be dangerous to the bike - the charging system of the car can supply much more current than the bike's battery and electronics can handle. Jumping a bike off a car with the ignition off is not going to harm the battery - the bike 'sees' 12 V, just like when it is starting on its own battery.

I know this is a big debate. I have used a running car to jump a bike many times in the past. Many different bikes in the past, along with my niner. Never had a problem.

2) To the guy having battery problems: how cold does your bike get at night? A battery that is exposed to very low temperatures will have a very short lifespan. (...says the guy who buys a new battery every spring because he is too dumb to admit when the riding season is over, and his bikes inevitably freeze. Sigh.)

Never had a problem with the cold either. This past winter my 9er has sat out on the street all winter. Temps as low as -40. Still running the OEM battery. Fires right up once it warms up. This bike hasn't seen a the inside of a garage since it left the Honda dealer. (02)

3) Someone said jumping the 919 was easy - did I miss something? I had to pull my battery out of the airbox to get at the positive terminal. I didn't look too hard for another place to attach the positive cable but I couldn't see anything really obvious, like a terminal on the starter motor, that I could reach easily. What's the easy way?
No it is not easy.

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