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post #1 of 16 Old 09-20-2007, 05:53 AM Thread Starter
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Naked Automatic

For those who are manual transmission challenged., the new Aprilia Mana 850.

This is the perfect urban assault bike for RC90 when prowling the streets of downtown Miami.


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post #2 of 16 Old 09-20-2007, 06:11 AM
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Wow thats a nice lookin' bike.....chain is on the wrong side tho

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Doesn't that go against what riding a bike is about? They have scooters for the one's that want autos.

Well, it's all about marketing and product offerings. IMO, if you can't shift a bike, you may not have capacities to ride safely. On the flip side, it may make some more aware when not worrying about shifting.

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Honda sold a CB750 automatic back in the 70's. It did not sell well is a understatement.


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Mike, I actually remember that. More of manumatic wasn't it?

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Mike, I actually remember that. More of manumatic wasn't it?
The transmission was a 2- speed with a fluid torque converter. We road raced one of these motors in a Rickman frame as a experiment. The following race weekend the motor was swapped for a standard manual shift.

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Man, that's a great picture.

Mike, what was/is the aprox curb weight of a stock `78 750K?

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Not all bad, I don't think. When you're a new rider, it could be nice to have fewer things to think about at first. Once you get comfortable with correct braking, balance, etc, then throw in manual transmission. The problem is that I'd rather see an auto tranny on a small "newbie" bike instead of a 850 Aprilia beast. Looks nice tho...

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Man, that's a great picture.

Mike, what was/is the aprox curb weight of a stock `78 750K?
The old 750's were no light weights. I'm guessing somewhere around 550 pounds with all fluids and a full tank.

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honda did the 450 in an auto too. i guess they were anticipating a whole slew of people born without a left hand.

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Honda has always had the clutchless shift on the 50cc and the 70cc trail bike (back in the day). I think those are excellent for teaching the shift concept to new riders. I transitioned from a Honda 50 to a Yamaha 70 (with a clutch) as a kid (6-8 yrs old) very easily. I know at 6 the clutch would have been challenging and expensive.

Personally auto trans would ruin the ride for me. I'll bet there's market research showing there are a lot of people who never learned manual shift for cages who are coming to motorcycling.

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A lot of motard guys use the slipper clutches now. That is practically an auto shift setup. You can be in six gear and crame on the brakes and the bike will go to an idle. Or you can bang down to 1st at 40mph and back the bike in.

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Honda sold a CB750 automatic back in the 70's. It did not sell well is a understatement.

My friend just down the block has that exact bike sitting in the garage. Runs perfect and have 4000 original miles. I think my mountain bike is faster though

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I set up one of the 400 hawk hondamatics with a side car and hand shift for a buddy in a wheel chair years ago..

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My friend just down the block has that exact bike sitting in the garage. Runs perfect and have 4000 original miles. I think my mountain bike is faster though
Make him a offer he can't refuse!

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If you are flogging the throttle, is it going to do a 12+ o'clock wheelie when it 'decides' to shift?

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