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post #1 of 23 Old 04-22-2009, 06:07 AM Thread Starter
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My 919 engine puked.............

all it's guts out onto my bench.



It's time to fix my broken/cracked cases.



There are some extensive cracks that are going to take more time that I had originally thought.




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post #2 of 23 Old 04-22-2009, 06:14 AM
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I musta missed it, but how did you break the engine case that bad? Did you have the engine sliders instead of the frame sliders installed?

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there is a full engine on eBay right now for $800 OBO. I'd offer $650 and go up from there. Here's a link.

EDIT: Just noticed this thing has been on ebay since December. He may take a LOT less. No harm in talking with them.

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I think you'd be better off scraping that case. I wouldn't trust it anymore.

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post #5 of 23 Old 04-22-2009, 07:40 AM
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oy. that will be time consuming... but sometimes, we fix things just so we can say we did, don't we? if you chose to rebuild or replace, i wish you the best luck and hope you get back on the road soon!

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post #6 of 23 Old 04-22-2009, 08:35 AM
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that looks real nasty byrd. How did you manage that one?

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post #7 of 23 Old 04-22-2009, 09:46 AM
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The block is toast.
It has been twisted, torqued, broken and cracked. The block is not square anymore. The twisting weakens the metal - this is a characteristic of Aluminum you just can't get around.

I will bet there are more cracks in the block you don't see.

Buy a new block, or buy a donor engine.



Oh yea... How the heck did you do that?

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Even if you did get every crack and repaired it flawlessly, as the cases cooled they would warp and twist and nothing would be true anymore!

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so...what happened anyway? framesliders in the "bad place"? I'm just curious. No matter what, it looks like it sucks.

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Bummer ! I hate to see that kind of damage for anyone --

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awww... pooh.... just put some jb weld on it and it will be fine...

maybe some blue permatex in a few places...

maybe a little stop leak...

then.. good to go



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IMHO, it would be a bad call repairing this. I would not even consider it without an X-ray to illuminate the cracks you can't see and weld rods or wire of the same or compatible alloy.

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post #13 of 23 Old 04-22-2009, 03:39 PM
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oh just run it you reallt dont need all that oil anyways. plus it is much lighter now. so i would like to know how you came about doing this, i am thinking about makeing my bike lighter too.

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now joking aside that sucks man but i would replace cases too.

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and we are all still left with the burning question...WTH happened here?

30,000 mile 919 survivor. No plans of stopping the abuse any time soon.
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post #17 of 23 Old 04-23-2009, 02:58 PM
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What i tarnation did you do to that thing? Andwhen you say fix, you mean get another one right?

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that sucks man but it is nice to see it all apart

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post #19 of 23 Old 04-23-2009, 05:19 PM
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THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION!

P.S. Don't reuse those. Buy some new used ones. Those ones there are great for putting back together and making an interesting chair or stool out of.

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Sorry guys, been busy with work.

I bought the bike as a total loss from a salvage company. The best I can tell, the rider went down hard on the left side and the engine drug along the ground until it hit something really damn hard!

I actually ran the engine after I got it and it ran fine. The block is all kinds of ****ed up but I think I'm going to play and see if I can save it. Here's a link to more pictures.

Thanks for the advice guys...............

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Sorry guys, been busy with work.

I bought the bike as a total loss from a salvage company. The best I can tell, the rider went down hard on the left side and the engine drug along the ground until it hit something really damn hard!

I actually ran the engine after I got it and it ran fine. The block is all kinds of ****ed up but I think I'm going to play and see if I can save it. Here's a link to more pictures.

Thanks for the advice guys...............
Those pictures remind me of a guy I knew that put a 300ZX Twin Turbo motor into a Pathfinder. Weird, but cool.

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well... i wish you the best of luck chasing those cracks out on that block...

cast aluminum is not exactly "weld friendly" and not to mention the fact that cast is porous and you are gonna play hell getting the oil outta it to get a half a$$ed decent weld...

not saying you cannot do it... yes it can be done.... but you are gonna have some "fun"... (and by fun i mean pulling your hair out and screaming and throwing stuff)...

btw... it is gonna warp 17 ways from sunday...



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lol... this really does seem like one of those 'because i wanna try' projects it may end up as a doorstop, but for now: it's on the operating table...

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