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Hi, i was wondering if someone could post nice after market mirrors options...thanks!

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Napoleon, CRG, and Motrax make bar-end mirrors. CRG makes the best, Motrax is second-best, Napoleon is so-so. Rizoma makes very nice aftermarket mirrors that use the stock mounting position.
Rizoma: http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/inde...acturers_id=12
CRG: http://www.constructorsrg.com/mirrors/index.html
Motrax: http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...tem=MRX_MBM2_G

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One of the first mods I did on the 9'er was to scrap the stock mirrors and take the advice of so many here -- pick up some CRG bar end mirrors. A little more $, but well worth the investment!


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Dual CRG foldable mirrors. Allows you to actually see directly behind. No elbows.

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I showed a photo of the CRG bar end mirrors to a motorcycle courier I know in the L.A. area on the assumption that he would like the improved visibility they undoubtedly provide -- and he laughed and said he would NEVER USE THEM. Puzzled, I asked why he had such a strong reaction, and he explained, and I quote:
"I ride 8 to 10 hours a day in whatever traffic is on the best route to my next delivery. I so rarely use my mirrors that I wish they weren't there, I head check instead, and split lanes constantly not only to save time, but because it's safer. Look at them -- they add about 8 inches to the width of the bars, and in the worst possible place. I'd be knocking mirrors and scraping paint on cars constantly. And don't even ask what would happen if the bike fell over -- bye bye."
Obviously, he had never seen them in person, and had not taken into account the fact that most of the the manufacturers engineer them to fold inward in a tip over. His credentials: over 30 years riding on the street, 12 years as a courier in which he has logged (I've seen the logs -- impressive) well over 1 million miles, worn out 4 bikes, no accidents "worth mentioning", only 2 tickets, none in the last 5 years, and still street rides recreationally.
I have ridden with him -- he does use the mirrors, but only as an early warning by catching images in his peripheral vision. This only works if the mirrors are in your vision while looking directly forward -- not the case with most bar end mirrors. He does not stare into them, though, he head checks instead.
As a dedicated lane splitter myself, I have to admit the width issue had occurred to me.
One man's opinion, but food for thought.
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I contemplated the width as well before I bought mine.
When I bought the Renthal Lows, I cut them to exact width of the stock bars w/o ends. Then installed Renthal's alum. Ends & CRG mirrors. With the mirrors installed & folded, the overall width is narrower than the stock bars & bar ends alone. That sold it for me.
When in close traffic, where width is an issue, the mirrors aren't. I fold & go. When out of traffic I flip'em open. I like the points of view they create. I can see the issue with a courier though. Not exactly ideal for there job. Those bikes get worked. The mirrors wouldn’t last.

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motorcycle courier... in cali???


where do I sign up? and does it pay enough to support my family?



im being reasonably serious...

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...he does use the mirrors, but only as an early warning by catching images in his peripheral vision. This only works if the mirrors are in your vision while looking directly forward -- not the case with most bar end mirrors.
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I wouldn't claim to be as experienced as the rider described, but this was my problem with the bar end mirrors as well. Riding in traffic in San Antonio, I want to see what's coming behind me, and it's much easier with the mirrors in my peripheral, rather than below my line of sight on the bars. Just my .02.

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How did you mount the mirrors? Use the threaded inserts that hold the bar end weights or what?

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I was a little worried about looking down to see the bar ends as well. It didn't take long to realize it wasn't an issue. And compared to the stock mirrors where I had a great view of my shoulders and elbows, the bar end mirrors offered a much better view. The only blind spot I have (with just a left mirror) is a small gap on the rear right, which is where I normally do a head turn anyways. No lane splitting in NY so the extra few inches on the left side is not an issue at all.

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Dual CRG foldable mirrors. Allows you to actually see directly behind. No elbows.

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Nice!, i was wondering what modification you need to do to the bar ends? Do they comme with the mirrors?

Also, where can i get those plugs where the original mirrors used to be?

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I have used the CRG's and I didnt' like them at all for two reasons. First the mirror itself is too small for my taste, second I have to look further down to see them.

I switched to some cruisor type mirrors that look a lot better on the bike but now I'm thinking about going back to stock because they work so well for me, even though they look kinda dorky.

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This is for NICK!!

How did you mount the mirrors? Use the threaded inserts that hold the bar end weights or what?
You cannot use the stock anti-vibe insert to mount any bar end mirror unless you want to see noting but a blurr while riding.


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Nice!, i was wondering what modification you need to do to the bar ends? Do they comme with the mirrors?

Also, where can i get those plugs where the original mirrors used to be?

Thanks
CRG sells a bar-end adapter that will fit into the stock handlebar. If you have Renthals I believe you can clamp straight onto the bars, otherwise you'll need the adapter.

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Also, where can i get those plugs where the original mirrors used to be?
I was able to find some black plugs that fit prefectly at an auto parts store in the section where interior parts are found. PM me if you want the manufacturer and model number.

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How did you mount the mirrors? Use the threaded inserts that hold the bar end weights or what?
I used the rubber plugs that came with the mirrors. They just expand inside the bar when you tighten the screw. Clutch side is simple, throttle side was a little more work so as not to interfere with the throttle tube. They work pretty well. They vibrate at certain RPMs.

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motorcycle courier... in cali???


where do I sign up? and does it pay enough to support my family?

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There are courier services in L.A., and freelancers as well, for the movie industry and attorney offices, though I have never looked into it. It is a lot of work, and you must not only be an excellent rider, but have a nearly spotless driving record to be bonded, and have an intimate knowledge of the area you will be working -- a considerable task in Los Angeles. If after this you are still interested, do an internet search for motorcycle, or general, courier services and contact them for more information. Sorry, that's the best I can do. Good luck.
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"mickey mouse mirrors"

Look. I resent anyone calling the stock mirrors by this label. They are perfectly fine mirrors and work wonderfully. Besides, Walt and his lawyers get real sensitive about the use of the word "mickey" and "mouse" in the same sentence.

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"mickey mouse mirrors"

Look. I resent anyone calling the stock mirrors by this label. They are perfectly fine mirrors and work wonderfully.
They only worked well for me when I was keen on examining my elbows or shoulders. My Motrax mirrors show everything. They might work fine for some people, but they didn't make the cut for me.

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CRG's on Suburban Machinary Bar's. They have been great and have never possed any problem when getting close to other bikes/cars or anything else. Don't use bar end weights with these bars, for they do not vibrate like the stock bars did. It has been more natural for me to look down at these than it was those fugly stock jobbers (which I too thought were only good for looking at my shoulders). I have also been extreamly pleased with how well the CRG's stay in place. I have the lane splitters and at ANY speed they have stayed put with no vibration or fuzzy images. They have just been great. Well worth the cabbage!
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Nice!, i was wondering what modification you need to do to the bar ends? Do they comme with the mirrors?

Also, where can i get those plugs where the original mirrors used to be?

Thanks
I installed Renthal's aluminum Bar Ends. 7/8" dia. so no modification needed. They are not CRG's bar end mounts. The mounts are extra. The mirrors are sold separately. As for the Stock Mirror mount plugs. They are the stock frame plugs. I took them out of the frame when I mounted the frame sliders. Add a little dab of silicone, and stick'em on.

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"mickey mouse mirrors"

Look. I resent anyone calling the stock mirrors by this label. They are perfectly fine mirrors and work wonderfully.
Well, $hit, they DO look like Mickey Mouse ears.

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The Mickey mirrors got replaced right after I got the bike. Put some cheap plastic mirrors fromt Cycle Gear. Not too special, but black, square plastic.
really not worth a picture, becuase you really don't notice them.

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The Mickey mirrors got replaced right after I got the bike. Put some cheap plastic mirrors fromt Cycle Gear. Not too special, but black, square plastic.
really not worth a picture, becuase you really don't notice them.
Ditto.

I am using a set of square black plastic Napoleon mirrors with a very slightly convex surface. They also have an anti-UV coating to boot.
I swapped the "mickey mouse" mirrors with my Nighthawk before I sold it and continue on with the Napoleons.

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Also, where can i get those plugs where the original mirrors used to be?
My 1981 Yamaha came with only a left mirror. The right mirror hole had a nice rubber plug that fit the 10mm hole perfect. I looked high and low for comparable plugs and ultimately ordered the plugs directly from a Yamaha dealer using the part umber they showed for my 1981 XS650 Special II ironically. I'm sure it is used in lots of places on Yamaha models. Here is the Yamaha part number and price at Ron Ayers:

Part Number: 90338-09012-00
Description PLUG,SPEC'L SHAPE
Price $2.17



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The Mickey mirrors got replaced right after I got the bike. Put some cheap plastic mirrors fromt Cycle Gear. Not too special, but black, square plastic.
really not worth a picture, becuase you really don't notice them.
What mirrors did you get? Do they work good?

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What mirrors did you get? Do they work good?
Don't remeber the brand, but they cost arounf $20.00 at Cycle Gear about 4 years ago, work OK, My elbows only cover about 1/2 the mirror.




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Don't remeber the brand, but they cost arounf $20.00 at Cycle Gear about 4 years ago, work OK, My elbows only cover about 1/2 the mirror.



They look better than stock IMO. $20 well spent.

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