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Lowering a 919

At 5'8" I didn't think I was particularly short, but my '03 919 is slightly too tall for me. At standstill I'm on the balls of my feet, which doesn't leave me very stable. It also makes walking the bike rather difficult. I'd really like to lower the seat about an inch, maybe an inch and a half.

I've done some 'net research, and it looks like I have a number of options for lowering, but wanted to check to see if anyone has done this and can provide some advice. So there you have it. Anyone else tried to lower a 919, how did you do it, what were the results?

Thanks to all in advance.

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best option would be to cut down the seat.... but really the 919 isnt alll that tall... im 5'9 and have no problem.... although i have been raised on a CRF250 where i cant even touch both feet at the same time.

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for $75 you can get a strut from Pingel and make yours a hard tail. go as low as you want. that's what i did. but i don't suppose too many people choose to "go hard" for general street riding. ahem.

another option is to do as many do on dirt bikes. lean at stops. which do you prefer? one flat foot or two tippy toes?

lastly, stop stopping ! if you keep moving, the bike's the perfect height.

i wouldn't be surprised if i'm the only person who has significantly lowered a 919. but last week when i bought my second, it surely hit me how much taller it is than my drag bike, so i getcha.

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+1 on nd4spdbh's comment. Lower the seat first. Lowering the bike will affect the handling.

There are a few threads on here about removing the seat covering and shaving some foam off. You could also send your seat off to someone to have it done.

You might also just try riding it that way for a while and see if you get comfortable with it. If you have more than tip-toes on the ground, you should be fine.

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When I first got my 919 ( in March ), I thought "Man this is a short bike!"

I think part of the perception is the narrowing of the front seat.
Be sure your as far forward as can be when coming to stops.
Trim the foam.

Also, I wonder if *lowering the front forks 10mm ( as described in master 919 To Do post ) wouldn't net you more than 10mm due to geometry.

*lowering really means raising them in the triples.

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When I first got my 919 ( in March ), I thought "Man this is a short bike!"

I think part of the perception is the narrowing of the front seat.
Be sure your as far forward as can be when coming to stops.
Trim the foam.

Also, I wonder if *lowering the front forks 10mm ( as described in master 919 To Do post ) wouldn't net you more than 10mm due to geometry.

*lowering really means raising them in the triples.
lowering the front 10mm by raising the forks in the triples 10mm would net you ~ 5mm of seat height if that.

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I'm only a inch or less taller than you and I have no problem at all on the 919. Possibly you have shorter legs?

Have a crack at the seat first. I know one lady who had this done on hers for the same reason and she is happy.

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seat is your only option and it will give more than enough for your height.
The only other way to do it is to modify rear shock internally.

see this for 919 lowered seat pics WomenRidersNow.com is a motorcycling news and information network about women motorcyclists

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lowering the front 10mm by raising the forks in the triples 10mm would net you ~ 5mm of seat height if that.
not to mention the affect it would have on the turn in... Akkk!


I sugest you ride the bike for a while and see if you adjust.

If you do lower it though, you have to stretch it also, oh and get an ostrich or alligator skin seat cover, then come to FL and join all the rest of the yahoos in the long and low crowd. Dat shit would be dope son, woo-woo!

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I'm always on the balls of my feet with my 919. I have to get off to push it backwards because my legs are stretched at a standstill -- no leverage. It's like that for me on just about every bike that's not a cruiser. It doesn't bother me. I guess I'm used to it.

That said you may want to contact Frank at Flash Intro Page. He can re-contour your seat. He did an SV650s seat for me. He does great work at very reasonable prices. He also gets the seat back to you quick.

Or you can get some boots like the porn stars wear. They'll give another 4" of leg. lol

Talk to Frank. He may be your best bet.

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Sorry, for some odd reason the link didn't come through the way I expected. Here you go.

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Geez, I can't believe a link can be such a pain. Let's try this: Flash Intro Page

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My bad. The above links work.

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not to mention the affect it would have on the turn in... Akkk!!
What does it do?? I bumped mine up 10mm......does it turn sharper or something.

Well, I am just a tad over 5' and I was on tip toes at first, I adjusted by only using one foot down at stops. All is fine until you have to back it out of an incline, or stop on uneven terrain. I had my seat redone, they shaved about an inch of foam out of it and narrowed it a little. The end result is that I can now get the balls of my feet down. Thats fine with me, I can't really flat foot anything out there.

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being your first bike i would say leave it for a few more weeks at least. you'd be amazed at how fast you get used to things that feel a little awkward at first when it comes to motorcycles. If it still bugs you then I would suggest like others and bring your seat somewhere that has experience shaving motorcycle seats, it's your cheapest easiest option.

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Here's those pictures of the lowered seat.

Done in New Zealand so it may be a bit expensive to get done here, bawhahahahaha.
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What does it do?? I bumped mine up 10mm......does it turn sharper .
yes

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allan, that seat looks good and hard!

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allan, that seat looks good and hard!
By all reports she is very happy with it - pretty sure they altered the foam as well but I suspect with any lowering there is a trade-off with long distance comfort.

You just need to ride faster so you get there quicker!!!!!!

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I agree with Matt. Try it for a few weeks first. I thought my Super Duke was awful tall at first. Now I don't even notice it.

Never park nose down an incline. The obvious is, that you have to back it out up hill, which is a biich, instead of using the engine to power out. The other is, if a bike rolls foreward, kickstand folds and then you hear the 2nd worst sound in the world. If a bike rolls backward, the kickstand stays up and your bike has a chance.

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I swear my 02 is an inch shorter than my 04, and I've raised the forks 10mm on the '04! I'll do some measurements tonight to confirm, but I've tested with my buddies girlfriend and her heals certainly looked closer to the ground on the 02.

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At 5'8" I didn't think I was particularly short, but my '03 919 is slightly too tall for me. At standstill I'm on the balls of my feet, which doesn't leave me very stable. It also makes walking the bike rather difficult. I'd really like to lower the seat about an inch, maybe an inch and a half.

I've done some 'net research, and it looks like I have a number of options for lowering, but wanted to check to see if anyone has done this and can provide some advice. So there you have it. Anyone else tried to lower a 919, how did you do it, what were the results?

Thanks to all in advance.
Being a new rider your fears are well documented. This fear of dropping the bike will diminish in time.
To put things into prospective, I am 5'5" with a 26" inseam<please...no short jokes -lol->.
Handling the 919 at standstill has never been a problem.

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I can't see one inch giving you such a problem. I am 5'9" and my feet are completely on the ground. However, I do weigh 200lbs so that could be compressing the rear shock enough for me to be flat footed. I would try what the others have said and trim the foam. Should get what you want but you may sacrifice comfort.

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We have an '03 and '06 919 and there is a definite difference in the stock seat height of each. We had the '03 seat sent down to Florida for a Spencer Seat Mod with the lowering and the comfort cell foam option. What a difference!

My S.O. is 5'3" on a good day and it has helped immensely.

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The other option is to contact Works Performance for advice. They make a shock kit that is 1" lower than stock.


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We have an '03 and '06 919 and there is a definite difference in the stock seat height of each. We had the '03 seat sent down to Florida for a Spencer Seat Mod with the lowering and the comfort cell foam option. What a difference!

My S.O. is 5'3" on a good day and it has helped immensely.

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The other option is to contact Works Performance for advice. They make a shock kit that is 1" lower than stock.


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Thanks for posting that, I've been kickin myself in the arse for selling my corbin but I just couldnt get used to how it looked with my particular bike and my butt misses it, its weird to have your butt miss something.

^ Think I'm gonna do it.

This could be a good option for the original poster if you dont get used to it.

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07919Dave made me think, the cheapest easiest thing you can do is put on 75 pounds ! problem solved !

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Being a novice rider, started in 2008, I felt the Hornet was too tall for me. I'm 5'7" with 28" inseams.

I had Sargent narrow and shave my seat for about 15mm lowering. Then called Hagon UK for a custom monoshock sprung for 170lbs with 25mm lowering.

I also raised front forks by 25mm to compensate for the rears. Coupled with 35mm rider sag front/rear. The bike is much easier to manage now, especially when sitting and walking the bike around. My seat height is around 720mm/28.35" fully laden.

I didn't cut the side stand down, I actually like it standing more upright. I would say anything lowering than 25mm in the rear would require some side stand shortening. It currently stands at about 68 degrees upright.

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another option is to do as many do on dirt bikes. lean at stops. which do you prefer? one flat foot or two tippy toes?
I've been doing this since Bucky mentioned it, and it works pretty well. At first it was a bit awkward, but once I got used to the weight it was fine.

It's an '03 so the recommended new forks and suspension upgrade is on my to do list this season. I'll see how it feels after that, and might shave the seat afterward.

Thanks to all for the info!

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07919Dave made me think, the cheapest easiest thing you can do is put on 75 pounds ! problem solved !

I guess its now time for me to hit the gym.

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also, when balance is so-so, make sure you keep a hand on the front brakes.
it helps stabilize the bike and you can use the handlebars' leverage (with the brake on) to help stabilize the bike even more. and don't forget what Casey Kasem tried to tell bikers for years. "keep your feet on the ground, but keep reaching for the stars".

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