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post #1 of 18 Old 11-08-2007, 07:16 AM Thread Starter
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Last weekend I bought a 2007 919.

This is a great site! I have found a lot of good information and look forward to reading more. I have never participated in a forum like this.

The 919 is the replacement for my tired, old, 1982 Sabre (71,000 miles). I will miss it but after the ride home Saturday I wont miss it too much! I live approximately 200 miles from the dealership where I bought the bike. I planed a good route that I thought would work well for the break-in. I hope to get through the break-in period before serious snow hits northern Ohio.

It has been a long time since I maintained a drive chain. What kind of life should I expect from a properly maintained chain?

I wasn’t expecting a full set of really nice tools in the bikes tool kit. But all I got was an empty vinyl pouch. Is this normal or did my dealer just forget to put them back?

Even though the initial oil change isn’t due until the 600-mile mark. I plan on changing it myself at 300 miles then taking it to an authorized dealer at 600. Any thoughts?

Thanks to everyone in advance.

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Congrats on the new ride and welcome to the site!

A properly maintained chain should last you at least 12 to 15k (depending on your maintenence shcedule and riding style). When changing the chain you should do so also with the front and rear sprocket.

Tools should have come in the cute lil plastic blue pouch under the seat. I would follow up with your dealer to get a replacement set.

Changing your oil at 300 won't hurt anything but really isn't necessary, it's all up to you. I wouldn't bother taking it to the dealer for the 600mile service unless there is something appreciably wrong with the bike (doubtful as it's a Honda). The only thing you'll be doing there is spending unnecessary $$$ of work you can easily do yourself




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Tools should have come in the cute lil plastic blue pouch under the seat. I would follow up with your dealer to get a replacement set.
This should read: Crappy tools use to come standard with the 919. Honda got cheap and discontinued suppling them. Not sure which year it was 2005, 06, 07???

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This should read: Crappy tools use to come standard with the 919. Honda got cheap and discontinued suppling them. Not sure which year it was 2005, 06, 07???

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Even though the initial oil change isn’t due until the 600-mile mark. I plan on changing it myself at 300 miles then taking it to an authorized dealer at 600. Any thoughts?
i did mine @ 300 on my VTX1300. i read from others experience that 600 miles really is too long for that bike. I agree, man was that oil dirty! Tiny metal flakes all over. Wish i had done it at 100 miles. It did turn out fine.

The 919 on the otherhand was pretty clean @ 300 miles.... so i doubt it maters much, but i would still do it at 300 if i had it to do again. The honda filter is expensive, and a bit inconvienient to get as well. You can use a car filter for ~ 5$

you'll want to rig up a pan to kep the oil off the headers when removing the oil filter.

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I got 22,000 miles on my ZX10R chain. Treat her well and she will treat you well. Welcome to "The Firm"

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I got 22,000 miles on my ZX10R chain. Treat her well and she will treat you well. Welcome to "The Firm"
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post #10 of 18 Old 11-08-2007, 01:24 PM
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they discontinued the tools because they remembered it's a honda.
they were found to be superfluous.

"man was that oil dirty! Tiny metal flakes all over" ??
really? confirmed? did you drag a magnet through it? run it through a coffee filter? color me skeptical, as usual, but if you see metal in your oil, that's typically WAAY beyond normal for any oil change, first or tenth. yeah, i'll say it: "especially for a Honda".

i've run a 520 chain with a hard anodized aluminum rear sprocket for two full seasons of drag racing. hundreds of runs. i'm replacing it this winter because i want to try a new tri-metal rear sprocket in slightly different gearing, but there's nothing wrong with the chain. i flopped the rear sprocket after one season, and it could really go longer with no trouble too. drag racing is hard on chains, but granted, the total miles are low.

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color me skeptical, as usual, but if you see metal in your oil, that's typically WAAY beyond normal for any oil change, first or tenth. yeah, i'll say it: "especially for a Honda".
Fair enough. Those shiny specs glimering in the sun might not have been metal. Maybe Tinkerbell got caught in the intake? ;-) but others have said the same about the VTX, so either it is a common problem or Tinkerbell is having a very bad year.

Again, that was on the VTX, not the 919. 919 was pretty clean @300 miles.

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as far as break in of your engine here are some good articles, and i know from personal experience long before i ever read these that this method works , but read and make up your own mind.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

http://mototuneusa.com/thanx.htm

when i brought my first ever new bike back in the 70's i asked my uncle the best way to break it in and his answer surprized me some what ...he said "ride it like ya stole it" ...he's been a mechanic for more that 50 yrs now but now retired , but he used to build race engines for sprint boats as his speciality but has built engines for just about everything with an engine.
Along with his "ride it like you stole it" quote the other thing he used to tell me is " Its easyer to change the oil than it is to change the engine" Wise words from an experienced mechanic.
Everone will have there own methods that work for them and thats cool , but i have never blown an engine so something must be going right Read the articles and make up your own mind .

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post #13 of 18 Old 11-08-2007, 03:46 PM
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BTW im not trying to start a flame with the above links as i know everyone will have there own take on things , I posted just for information purposes , ya'll can make up ur own minds...cheers

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speaking of not starting a flame. I appologize for previous post, was just goofing off, not intended to be taken as disrespectfull.

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Congrats on the new ride.
I did my oil change at 200 miles then again at 700.

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I got the empty pouch treatment as well. I told the dealership and they ordered a full kit for no cost. Wasn't sure if there might be a special wrench or something otherwise I wouldn't care. Good decision, hope you like it.

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This should read: Crappy tools use to come standard with the 919. Honda got cheap and discontinued suppling them. Not sure which year it was 2005, 06, 07???
Hmm, my 2006 came with a set, they're certainly better than nothing...not a lot better, but still better .

Having said that, Honda seem to be doing you guys over in the US, so maybe this is just another example.

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post #18 of 18 Old 11-08-2007, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the input.

I had found the link “rearwheel” mentioned and am trying to follow it as a guide along with some common sense. Between work and the weather the break-in is going to take longer than I would like. I don’t mind the cold it’s the snow that makes it tricky. It is supposed to be in the low 50’s here this weekend. I am looking forward to it!

As far as the empty tool pouch, at least I don’t have to feel bad about tossing out the crappy ones to make room for a few key tools.

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