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post #1 of 16 Old 10-17-2007, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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KLR 650 vs Honda 919 ??

here is the question for those who have 919 and dirt/multipurpose bikes:

I was looking on KLR 650 and it is 386 lbs dry
Honda 919 is 428 lbs dry - not that heavier, really
I have an engine guard on my 919

I would like to ride some dirt roads in Mendocino National Forest but I can not have second bike and I do not want to part with 919. I was looking on dirt bikes and they cost more than I payed for my 2002 919 and you have to haul them over there... The prices to rent dirt bikes are almost the same as for Harleys

Now, I am contemplating riding there and may be taking off mirrors and give it a try.. Why it should behave so differently from KLR ? Suspension too rigid? not enough clearance ? 919 does have a lot of torque at the bottom... is it not??

sure, I do not have knobby tires, but they are not race slicks neither..
though 919 listed in the sport section on Honda it is descendant of the standard ..

will someone share experience ??
and I think I have seen someone posted the picture with handguards on 919.. where can I get those ??

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post #2 of 16 Old 10-18-2007, 06:54 AM
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I tried riding a 919 on dirt roads. It does not ride well at all. It is a street bike, and if I had tipped it over, I would have done plenty of damage.

I now have a DR650, which is a little more dirt-oriented than the KLR. I can fly down fire roads, climb nasty, rock-strewn passes, and still blast through the corners and cruise at 75 mph on the highway. The 919 is a great bike, but it can't touch a dual-sport if you want to go off road.

Here is a pic of a pass I took the DR up a couple of weeks ago. If this is what you want, sell the 919 and pick up either a DR or a KLR.



Here's the end of a wrong turn I made. No way the 919 makes it up this, no matter how good of a rider you are.



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post #3 of 16 Old 10-18-2007, 07:57 AM
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I know someone is going to tell you to go ahead and try it, that they have done it before.

DON'T DO IT!
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DON'T DO IT!

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+1 to what they said. There is a very good reason for the design difference between a 919 and KLR, DR, etc...

You said it yourself, the 919 is designed as a descendant of the standard (with more attributes to sport than anything else). The KLR and DR are designed as dual-sports with heavy intent on being capable wherever they may be taken.

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post #7 of 16 Old 10-18-2007, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
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thanks guys for sobering comments... I better wait then.. i can practice sliding on manholes in the rain meantime

On the other tought, Bryce919er where did you get this size of knobby tire ?

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[QUOTE=Bryce919er;137361]Get a CBR100RR, it is what they are for

Thats the coolest thing I've seen in a while.

"My reality check just bounced."
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That's kind of the idea I had for the 919 when I was originally planning my trip to Alaska and for tooling around here in Colorado. My biggest complaint was every time I tipped it over in the dirt, I was probably going to break something important. Now, if I had a beater SV650...

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That is definitly not me with the CBR, so I cant say where the tire came from. Just some pics I saw on another forum.

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Thanks for finding those pictures, Bryce! I remember seeing those a long time ago and couldn't find them the last time I wanted them. Now I have them forever (or until my hard drive crashes).

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Too funny.

'02 Honda 919 - She's the only one for me!

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I've done dirt/gravel riding on my VFR on long tours--to get to campsites and whatnot--but taking the 919 on miles of dedicated trails doesn't sound like much fun.

The cost of what you'd break or damage in a routine dirt drop would probably way outstrip a couple of weekends' rental cost for dirtbikes. I've been thinking about renting, myself, and I'm in your area--let me know if you're interested, and perhaps we can gather folks for a group rental.

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A few things that weren't mentioned. The 919 has almost no clearance. If you go over a rock more than about 8" high you're going to crush your headers. You don't have enough travel on the front or back to take any kind of a dip or ditch at any speed at all without tearing up the forks and rear shock. Here's the big one to consider if you happen to drop the 919 on the downside of a hill with the bars lower than the wheels you will never lift it up. You will be trying to lift up the entire 450lbs of that heavy sucker and if you're not an experience power lifter you are not going to get it done.

You just need to decide which one you think you're going to do most often rode or offroad and choose the bike to fit. I like doing both so I own a the 919, XR650R, XR400. That pretty much takes care of the all.

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I had a plated '96 KLX650 last year. here in Mich, the trails are deep sand in many/most places, so it was too big of a bike to be "the one". I sold that last fall.

this spring I got an '03 WR450, and now have an '03 919. It's a great package for me here, but I could see going to a single DS like that if I was elsewhere and the trails were different.

I don't know I'd go the route you're leaning with a 919, but a V-strom is supposed to be pretty good. I hear the 650 is much more reliable.

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post #16 of 16 Old 10-19-2007, 02:07 PM
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People are knobby-ing up their cbrs' ? Apparently the moderators aren't at work these days.

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