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post #1 of 58 Old 04-08-2009, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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iridium flavored insanity

ok... i got a set of iridium plugs and went to install them...

are you kidding me?? what the hell is with the #3 plug being directly under the frame spar??

what is the secret for replacing ole #3 there??

someone bestow the pearl of wisdom...

cause i am 15 seconds from a rag in the gas tank and a bic lighter....


this is some major bullsh!!t



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Use the sparkplug socket that came in the tool kit, pops it right out.

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Voodoo makes a good case for not turning your bike into a Molotov Cocktail. Worth a shot I think.

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However if you DO decide to set her on fire get lots of pics, maybe even a video, I'd like to see that.

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Use the sparkplug socket that came in the tool kit, pops it right out.

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yeah... i must have the wrong wrench in that kit....

this is some monumental bullsh!!!t...



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I guess the flaming cycle of death trick it is then, remember the pics.

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It's a tight fit...I remember doing them on my CBR's but it's dooable. Just gotta find the right set up of tools


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You guys got a tool kit with your bike?

All I got was an Allen wrench and a stupid helmet-lock cable

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Use the sparkplug socket that came in the tool kit, pops it right out.

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+1 I use the spark plug tool from the tool kit and a 10 mm gearwrench.

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Yep, I had the same problem (did my plugs a couple weeks back). Tried to do a whole routine to get out my spark plug socket using pliers and all sorts of idiocy. Remembered I got a spark plug wrench in my toolkit, and it worked like a charm.

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flex socket, no problem.

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what i think 06 and newer got a allen wrench. and mine is all rust.. damn rain.

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post #13 of 58 Old 04-08-2009, 05:40 PM
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As others have mentioned, it's not easy but it can be done. If you don't have the supplied spark plug tool, use a spark plug socket with a flex joint and extension. There will be lots of cursing, but you WILL get it to work.
Good luck!

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try sliding a 929 coil/cap on there if you like a challenge,
and i know your all sick of hearing about them coils but 1 day.

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Relax.

Size up the situation and head down to Sears and pick up a slim sparkplug socket, a flex coupling, a long breaker bar (go easy with this one, the leverage is to give you fine control), a palm ratchet and get to it.

There's no better excuse to buy tools that "I can't get this done without a __________".

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Relax.

Size up the situation and head down to Sears and pick up a slim sparkplug socket, a flex coupling, a long breaker bar (go easy with this one, the leverage is to give you fine control), a palm ratchet and get to it.

There's no better excuse to buy tools that "I can't get this done without a __________".
That's the description of a well seasoned marriage and the method of working the system!!!

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I made i work with a standard walmart tool kit that had a socket tool. Just need patience my friend.

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You could always just take the engine out........


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i dismissed the tool kit as garbage and ended up going to the store a couple times to get stuff i thought would work. then like others have said i noticed the spark plug wrench in the tool kit, tried it, worked as though it were specifically designed for the situation. i was reasured of honda's thorough planning and engineering after that and i felt like an idiot.

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You could always just take the engine out........
considered removing front motor mount bolts... tomorrow a.m. will run to home depot and get swivel attachments or wobble extensions... or both...

the 07 did not come with a tool kit... just a allen wrench... and the salesman (ME) acquired a tool kit but the spark plug wrench in it will not drop into the hole....

i promise this will be the one and only time i change plugs on this martha flocker...

now i remember why 2 of my last 4 bikes were kawasaki's...

i love my Honda but i would give a months pay to have the engineer who denutted the engine and put that stupid f#$king frame spar over the #3 plug in this room with me... i promise when the bruising went away he would write each of us a apology letter and come personally to our houses and do yard work as penance..



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i love my Honda but i would give a months pay to have the engineer who denutted the engine and put that stupid f#$king frame spar over the #3 plug in this room with me... i promise when the bruising went away he would write each of us a apology letter and come personally to our houses and do yard work as penance..

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Haven't changed the plugs on my FZ1 yet of course but I've had the tank up

So far, pretty easy to work on...Get an FZ1

By the way, Did you get the 30 sec video I sent to you yesterday...and the pic?

Thought for sure I would've got a response from those


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I saw a guy on a 600 change his plugs in like 5 mins.

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I saw a guy on a 600 change his plugs in like 5 mins.
Ya...He was way fast


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Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn Brian, calm down, jeez, its like yer arguing with Bucky, and he never even said anything


like you, mine didnt come with the blessed toolkit, one of Hondas misgivings





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Hmmmmm...Must be a 919 thing...Shoulda got an FZ1...Very nice tool kit


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Haven't changed the plugs on my FZ1 yet of course but I've had the tank up

So far, pretty easy to work on...Get an FZ1

By the way, Did you get the 30 sec video I sent to you yesterday...and the pic?

Thought for sure I would've got a response from those [/QUOTE]

If your FZ1 is like the Gen1 FZ, you will have to drop your rad to get your plugs. Enjoy!

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Ya...He was way fast
In life, there is nothing like "friends" to take a small wound, rip it wide open, and rub salt in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In life, there is nothing like "friends" to take a small wound, rip it wide open, and rub salt in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If your FZ1 is like the Gen1 FZ, you will have to drop your rad to get your plugs. Enjoy!
Couldn't tell ya...but I love the FZ1 so if thats what it takes, I'll do it with a smile on my face


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So this is what worked for me last weekend...
I had a standard spark plug socket, a 4" extension and my 3/8 Driver
I dropped the plug socket in the hole, then I put the extension in but was sure to not snap it into the socket. Then I put the wrench on and could get the old plug out pretty easily. The fun interesting issue is of course fishing the socket back out of the hole. I used one of those flexible grabber things to grab the socket and plug out of the hole... Seemed to work pretty well for me all in all.

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well..... i had to go buy another set of "universals" for my ratchet set... i allready have 2 of them... but they are in miami in my tool chest....

after going and getting it, it took about 10 mins and i had that plug changed and everything buttoned back up, water added back in the radiator (you have to take the radiator hose aloose to SEE the #3 plug......)

it pisses me off when they make stuff difficult for the sake of it being difficult... and honda can "lamer me los juevos" for the "tool kit" consisting of 1 allen key....

well... the bright side is the plugs i took out are the picture of health.. nice and clean and the correct color... no signs of soot......

cranked right up... runs great....

i also removed all the hoses and sh!t that went to the pairs valve....

the spark plug tool in the tool kit i have "ALLLLMMMOSSTTTT" fit...

there will not be another set of plugs done on this bike...
if it needs plugs i will take and trade it in on something with fresh new plugs in it...



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If there is a "next time" try loosening the screw that holds the radiator hose junction to the frame and moving the hose off to the side, worked for me both tie I pulled the plugs on mine and saves having to deal with coolant.

So theres no flaming bike of death videos?

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So theres no flaming bike of death videos?

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maybe next time i work on it... ahhh.. it just pissed me off cause i was in a hurry to go do something else i wanted to do...


now i have to install the front springs... i have a friend who is a honda tech who is gonna install the gold valve kit for me..



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If there is a "next time" try loosening the screw that holds the radiator hose junction to the frame and moving the hose off to the side, worked for me both tie I pulled the plugs on mine and saves having to deal with coolant.

So theres no flaming bike of death videos?

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I actually removed all 4 plugs 3 times without incident. Loosening the radiator fill cap from the frame was the ticket for me to reach #3. Stupid temporary hose clamp on my fuel return line caused my problems. The tool in the Honda tool kit really does fit in there. You just have to hold your mouth right and cross your toes.

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Changed the plugs on my 919 last year and it took 15 minutes from start to finish. The correct tools help.

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I didn't mess with my radiator hose - but I had removed my pair system before I began with the plugs (and moved around a coil)...I think next time it won't be such a pain.

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I normally use a piece of fuel tubing on the plug to get it started in the threads. Just push the tube over the plug connector and turn. Never stripped any threads this way. Once it is finger tight pull the tubing off and tightens with socket.

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there will not be another set of plugs done on this bike...
if it needs plugs i will take and trade it in on something with fresh new plugs in it...
What the . . . pause . . . silence . . .


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