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Does anyone have a picture from the manual off how the gauge cluster comes apart. I'm thinking of getting some overlays mocked up and I would like to change the lighting color as well. I don't really feel like breaking things. Also if anyone has an extra I will take it off your hands. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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i'm with you +1 for this info, that'd be awesome!

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This post shows how to get down to the lights:
https://wristtwisters.com/naked-bikes...older-mod.html

From there it's usually a matter of locating the screws to get the gauges out. By overlays do you mean faceplates? I think you'll have to remove needles for that part.

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found a thread relating to this, very cool!

https://wristtwisters.com/naked-bikes...older-mod.html

edit: Doh! got beat lol.

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Does anyone have a picture from the manual off how the gauge cluster comes apart. I'm thinking of getting some overlays mocked up and I would like to change the lighting color as well. I don't really feel like breaking things. Also if anyone has an extra I will take it off your hands. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here's a picture of the instrument pod with the back removed. The holes marked with a green circle are screw locations to hold the face to the white circuit board mount with sheet metal screws. The red circles are the holes for the 3mm x 16mm screws attaching the circuit board to it's mount. It literally falls apart when all the screws are removed. Once the board is free the speedometer is held to it with two sheet metal / connection screws and two posts, and the tach / temp gauge is held by five sheet metal / connection screws and two posts.

A caution about removing the faces from the gauges: the needles have to be removed, and there is a very specific method of reinstalling them in the right position involving a square wave signal generator and very picky work. Done wrong it's up for grabs what the instruments will read. It's not a job for the ill equipped.

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hmmm... that looks familiar...

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hey rob, so how many lights are there then? 2? 3?

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Two. One at the top of each gauge, marked "G" for some reason. Maybe because the light gozinta the hole.

What sort of overlay were you thinking of?

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Thanks for all the info everyone, mainly I'd like to get the faces off of the gauges to scan them and/or take measurements to create different faces.
I am also looking into changing the lighting.

Rob's post about the needles definitely makes me a little weary regarding pulling the needles off my own gauges.

I know if I can get all the necessary sizes and such overlays could be made that do not require the needles to be removed.

I am also considering seeing if a plexi-glass(clear) version and a stainless steel faceplate could be made.

Still got about a month of winter left here and I need something to do.

Any other info would be greatly appreciated. Also I am still looking to take anyones spare off their hands.

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Two. One at the top of each gauge, marked "G" for some reason. Maybe because the light gozinta the hole.

What sort of overlay were you thinking of?

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Speedo numbers big enough to read would be cool.

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Speedo numbers big enough to read would be cool.
Don't know how much room there is for that, But I know fonts and everything could be changed. But I need the original image first.

If you really have trouble reading it might I suggest a new lens that magnifies.

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How about this?

It also occurred to me that you could correct the indicated speed by changing the spacing of the hash marks. No more 10% off, and the odometer which on mine is practically dead nuts accurate will stay that way. If you change your gearing and add a speedohealer the speed and odo will stay in sync.

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How about this?

It also occurred to me that you could correct the indicated speed by changing the spacing of the hash marks. No more 10% off, and the odometer which on mine is practically dead nuts accurate will stay that way. If you change your gearing and add a speedohealer the speed and odo will stay in sync.

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That is definitely what I am looking for do you have the tach side as well. I dont know about going so far as to modify the hash marks. But font color background all that could be changed. Relatively easily. I know someone that can print up overlays. I could even possibly get metal ones machined as a complete replacement. But I dont want to get to far ahead of myself. I can't wait to get home tonight to start tinkering.

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No big deal changing the hash marks:


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Don't know how much room there is for that, But I know fonts and everything could be changed. But I need the original image first.

If you really have trouble reading it might I suggest a new lens that magnifies.
Lenses that thick wouldn't fit in my helmet. Stop picking on old people... friggin' whippersnappers.

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I would like to have jumped in quite a bit sooner than this but I just happened to come across this thread...

Wheelietime, I also share an interest in printing up some nice looking overlays.
Last summer I was doing something with my handle bars (probably cutting & re-drilling my Renthal UL's) and curiosity overcame me. In a matter of minutes I had my instrument cluster stripped down to basically what you see in Rob's post #5. Nothing to it.
HOWEVER... as he stated, the needles are a whole other monster.
Without knowing any better, I tried to pry them off, but couldn't get them off.
I didn't really try too hard because I was afraid of breaking them.
Thanks Rob for the insight on the nightmare of re-installing the needles

If someone out there has a broken gauge cluster that they're willing to sacrifice it wouldn't be too tough at all to strip it down & extract what we need to recreate new faces.

I'm still half interested in giving it a shot for myself... & if others want in on it I'm willing to share.
Wheelietime: if you know someone who can print up overlays, I'm willing to play around with layouts, but I need the stock gauge faces in my hands before I can do anything.

Oh, also... part of the reason I tore the gauge cluster apart was that I was going to replace the light bulbs with brighter, and maybe colored LEDs.
There are little colored socks you can fit over the stock bulbs as another option.
There's a thread or two around here somewhere about the LEDs, otherwise check anyplace that deals with import tuner cars... you'll be sure to find a distributer that way.

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I have a set of gauges with 1 needle already pried off (yes, I'm the overzealous type that jumps in head first, then checks water depth) The biggest "damnit" if you are looking for immediate results is that my gauges are in a moving box, somewhere in the garage... I do know which box, but I'm not sure where it is at this point. Weather prevailing, I should know where it is by next weekend.

What are we after here anyway?!

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Someone on here has the know-how and was willing to fix my gauges, I just haven't had a need for them yet (one 9er is parked and not running due to user error.) I've got my cluster torn apart, and have one of the needles off. I could be convinced to pull the other needle off and send you the gauges, but I'll need something in return. I was hoping to get clear plexi overlayed with black to defuse the light less. As far as adding LED's go, I've got a writeup in the works. My biggest problem right now is that I just moved in to a new place, and I don't have a lot of room to work, and not remembering who it is that can reinstall the needles.

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if anyone has an oopsie with thier guage-mods, I'm willing to buy a broken one. I've got a WTB 919 guages ad in the clasifieds... Im after the face of the speedo with the attached circuit board behind.

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