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post #1 of 38 Old 06-01-2006, 09:22 AM
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Fuel Warning Light 919 and my intro

Good day all. I'm a new owner of a 2002 919. I used to have a gas allowance with my company and then they cut everyone's allowance, and well I was going to begin spending $400/month just to get to work. I'm in the performance car parts business ( Mossy Performance ) and have always enjoyed motorcycles as well. So i began communting on my DR650 but after a couple of weeks of maximum cruising @75 mph on the 15 in San Diego - Temecula, I realized I needed a street bike. Plus my wife had mentioned it and i had kept my mouth shut at the time. So when I knew I wanted one, I reminded her it was her idea. anyway, I've been commuting on it for a few weeks now and lurking in this forum absorbing all the info i can. I sincerely appreciate all your collective wisdom and look forward to riding with some of you one day.

Anyway, to get to my subject: I seem to get to about 110 miles before my fuel light comes on. Having run out of gas once on my DR, I don't want to do that again. How many miles or gallons are left when the light comes on? The most I have been able to put in was about 3.5 gallons today, and that's with leaning the bike over a bit to get it close to full. Any insight? Also I seem to be getting 35-37 mpg driving 90 mph or so on the freeway with the obligitory bursts to get on the freeway. Any input?

Thanks again for the help, I look forward to being a part of the 919 community and giving back where I can.

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post #2 of 38 Old 06-01-2006, 09:42 AM
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Damn... I hate you people from So Cal, 12 months of continuous riding! j/k Welcome aboard

The fuel tank capacity is 5.02 gallons. You can do the math based on your own MPG. For commuting you might want to consider going to a 17 tooth front sprocket. Bottome line, better gas mileage without loosing much low end grunt.

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Will I need to change the chain? will the speedo be off?

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What type of speeds are you running during your commute? Everytime I'm on the 15 I am bearly moving due to all the dang traffic. I spend a lot of time above 4500rpm. Mostly running 2-3rd gear. I am still able to go 165-170 miles before my light comes on. After that maybe another 20 or so and I do slow it down.

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Will I need to change the chain? will the speedo be off?
Your spedo is off now, I think the new sprocket will improve the actual speed.

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110 miles before the fuel light?!?! That's bad. If mine comes on at 130 miles it's because I've been hard on the gas, I've NEVER had it come on earlier than that.

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yeah, 110 is pretty bad. I suppose idling for long periods of time doenst help.

I have been commuting with mine lately, and have been doing around 70mph on the highway, and I get way over 40mpg, stock everything (at least everything that would affect gas mileage).

My light has been coming on around 160, and I use about 3.5 gallons.

Riding more aggressively in the twisites ususally get to around 140 before my light comes on.

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Mine comes on between 100 and 120 depending on how hard I push it. I do the math every time I fill and I get at worst 24 MPG and best 32 MPG city driving with about 90% of the time getting right about 30 MPG. I was able to get 37 MPG once on the freeway, on a trip, fully loaded and doing over 80MPH. I have my speedo corrected with a SpeedoHealer so it's pretty accurate. Before I used the speedohealer and while I was getting familiar with the 919 I got over 40 MPG a few times... but that was long ago. Contributing to my bad gas mileage: I run a 15/45 sprocket combo. I ride pretty aggressive. I always warm my bike while I put on my gear... sometimes longer. I have a PowerCommander and I am pretty sure it causes more fuel consumption, even if only the use of the accelerator pump feature... and the biggest factor I think... I am pretty heavy at 275 lbs.. and the poor little 9er has to use more juice to haul my fat a$$ around.

Note: when I used a GPS to calibrate my Speedo I found that with a new tire and stock sprockets the speedo was off +8.6% That is it read faster and ticked off mileage 8.6% quicker than I was really doing. So if you run stock gears and think you are getting whatever gas mileage... you can safely subtract 5-10%. If you have access to a hand held GPS.. put it in the map window of your tank bag and see just how off your speedo and odo really are. It will surprise you.

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post #9 of 38 Old 06-01-2006, 01:23 PM
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Welcome to the forum, GregV! If you know the past owner of the bike pretty well, you might check on maintenance items/history of the bike. I would run through the basics - plugs, air filter, new plugs, etc. Then run a few more tanks through to get an idea of how it's running for you. I bought my '02 from a guy with only 1170 miles on it. He kept a great record of anything he did to it, so I was able to pick up from there and keep going. First thing I did was change the oil and document mileage and I was off and riding.

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Hey Greg...
I just picked up a new 2006 and I'll be using it for the same commute- Temecula to RB. I'm waiting on my helmet, but should start riding next week. I'm also curious what type of mileage I'll be getting for that jog with the traffic and such. Keep me posted and I'll let you know how the new 2006 does in comparison.


And yes is sure is nice to get many more months of "comfortable" riding in every year

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Just do have 632 miles on my 2006 so I've been riding it very conservatively but have so far gotten about 160 -170 miles on a tank but no fuel warning light and on refill only have to put in a few gallons. 50 and 51 MPG were my last figures on the last 2 tanks. But now that the 600 miles service is complete I expect those figures to drop significantly with more aggressive riding. Cheers!

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My $.02

Just filled mine up about 15 min ago. 2005 w/ about 700 miles. I've been pretty conservative riding-wise, I have a 25 mile all freeway commute and by my calculations I've been getting about 42-45 mpg, bone stock.

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post #13 of 38 Old 06-02-2006, 12:03 AM
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Wow! Thanks for all the input. I did think the speedo had to be off. I ride at an indicated 90-95 mph on the 35 freeway miles, then I have about 10 miles of city. It just didn't seem that fast.
I have been using 91 octane, but after reading another thread I'll change to regular 87 octane. that'll save a few bucks, and should be fine. The bike is stock right now, and the previous owner said he had just had a service done. I'll see if i can't get some receipts from him.

So, if i change the sprocket, will I have to change the chain? edit: just read the 919.org write up. I think I'll do that.

I just ordered the SpeedoHealer, so maybe that will help. So does 35-37 mpg sound right with the way i'm riding? The bike has just under 10,000 miles on it, and is stock other than a K&N filter. (unverified, I guess I should check them) And I'll check out the plugs too. Anything else?

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I get 35 MPG every tank whether I drive it easy or hard.

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You can buy a 530 rear/front sprocket, then you won't have to change the stock chain...unless you go up a few teeth in the rear and the chain isnt long enough.

I was trying to decide if I wanted to go the 520 route, but I just ended up getting a little bigger 530 rear sprocket (to me, the first and even 2nd gears are too high, want a little more snap).

Speedohealer works great, I just installed one.

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I'm getting 50 MPG but all I ride is 2 lane highway. 30 miles one way to work. Ussually doing 60 to 70 mph or atleast that's what the speedo says. I have stock gearing. Power commander w/carbon Sato's.

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Well i got to 124 miles before the light came on. Then I went to 6th grade camp with my son and wasn't riding. Now I've switched to reg unleaded instead of premium, and we'll see what the mileage seems to be. Last tank was 36 mpg. I'll check this tank, and maybe another before I put on the 17 tooth sprocket and the SpeedoHealer. I think that may help, and be better for what I'm doing.

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I bought a 2006 about a month and a half ago and I've been riding a lot between work and home (San Francisco to San Jose, man it sucks!) Anyway, the fuel light seems to come on VERY early. I've gone 40 miles past when it comes on and still put only 4.5 gallons of gas in the tank. So with some very loose math I figure I could push it an additional 17-20 miles before I am running on fumes (but pushing it is how we end up on the side of the freeway, isn't it?)

So for my money I am set on the 40 miles past the warning light and then fill her up. Hope this helps.

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when the light comes on, i get more gas...

don't really care when or how many miles...just so long as i have enuff to get to the next fuel stop, which will always be less than 50mi away unless i screw up and wind up in texas or somethin

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when the light comes on, i get more gas...

don't really care when or how many miles...just so long as i have enuff to get to the next fuel stop, which will always be less than 50mi away unless i screw up and wind up in texas or somethin
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even in texas you shouldnt be more then 100 miles from gas..

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Pah..
We got vast tracts of land here where you won't go on a bike unless you've got either a support crew carrying extra fuel or you've got jerry cans strapped to the bike.
Crossing the Nullabor means going several hundred Ks without a servo in sight.
This is where one of the worlds longest straight stretches of road can be found. 145Ks without even a slight bend. The big thing here though is that there's bugger all else there. No shops, no service stations, no fences.. no trees, just small bushes. Ok, maybe some big bushes.
Gotta watch for the 'roos though. Hitting one of those is like hitting a bull.

My fuel light varies... Anything from about 220ks to 240ks. Highest mileage so far before fuel light came on was 248ks, but the bike was new and I was taking it pretty easy on her.
And no, I've not taken a bike accross Oz.... Yet.. One day!

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The fuel tank capacity is 5.02 gallons.


No Sh.t? I never have put more than 3.5 gallons in my 9. the light comes on and i fill her up. don't want her going hungry. really suprised about the 5 gallon thing. guess i can relax a little about filling her up so quickly.

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Lately I have been getting about 110-120 before the light comes on. I always let it warm up fully before riding and then I run the piss out of it, like many full throttle bursts to 140 or 150* (indicated, my speedo is so off I wonder if I am even actually doing 130mph!)

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See, my whole issue I guess is my own fear. I hadn't run out of gas since I was in high school, until last month when I was commuting on my DR650. Looked like plenty in the tank untill you figure out it only a little left under the frame. And it's only sucking from one side. DOH! I commute 44 miles, and i have a station near work with the best prices. But I don't want to leave the house, hit the freeway, see the light and figure I can go all the way and be sitting on the side agfain waiting for AAA. <sigh> Whatever. I love my bike though.

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Just a follow up...
Filled up the tank again and looks like I'm getting, on average, 160 miles before the low gas light comes on. I'm averaging a little over 40 MPG with mostly highway commuting (80 mph over 20+ miles and slower for another 15+). Just using 87 gas and everything else stock on the bike. I weigh in at about 180-185 duing a commute and no windshield.


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I'm getting about 35-36 mpg. I drive fast and weigh about 260. I probably need to oil the chain and maybe even replace it. What's the rule with 10k miles? Is it good to go, or should I buy an o-ring chain?

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Glad I didn't run out of gas the day this happened! I have to take a two mile detour till this poor county in Washington State decides what to do about this!
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Euww..
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is the gas tank capacity really 5.02 gallon? how accurate is it?
I ran out of gas this morning.. (luckily, not far away from a gas station), I could only fill in 4.233 gallon (with the side stand down).
I have always thought I can go 40+ miles or so after the low fuel light comes on. ... I was wrong. In my case, from the light comes on to an empty tank, it was about 23 miles. And my MPG is always 50-51. Guess from now on I will re-fuel every 200 miles.

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I fill it while I sit on it, right to the brim, and yeah, I would believe it's 5gal. (19L) My light comes on with about 5-7 L left, which should be good for about 70km at least, about 40 miles. I'm getting about 250ish (155) to a bit past the light.

Interesting how the light can vary bike to bike. I've had mine come on and go off a bit, then stay on for good. I don't think Honda put their precision into the fuel light!

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5.02 pressurized maybe. 4.5 usable is my guess. The majority of users is where my numbers sit. !60 -180 miles. Light comes on. Drive conservatively to the next station, put in about 3.5. I dunno. Mines stock too.

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seems there's a big range between when each bike's low fuel light comes on.
it's hard to forget the time you ran out of fuel whatever you were riding.
my powercommander bumped the range up big time for me.
there's still lots left when the light comes on no worries.

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seems there's a big range between when each bike's low fuel light comes on.
it's hard to forget the time you ran out of fuel whatever you were riding.
my powercommander bumped the range up big time for me.
there's still lots left when the light comes on no worries.
This seems about the same for me. I generaly have 1.2 gallons left in the tank when the light comes on.

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So being new to the 919 this 87 octane thing is a bit foreign to me. This is my 5th bike and I have run the highest octane I can find be it my CBR or my old Suzuki GS550. Usually 92 but sometimes 93. What's the deal with the 919?

Also, my light has come on at about 150mi. which has been about 48mpg.

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post #36 of 38 Old 09-11-2007, 12:42 PM
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gas mileage

I've found that when my 02 919 starts getting worse mileage is because it needs new plugs. I consistanly gt between 40 and 45 communting through side streets. you also have to consider air quality where you live and how much and if the fuel statons in your state oxygenate the gas. This could explain the variance. Here it's only required to be oxygenated during the winter.

as for the diff octane i don't think it's just 919. LDH actually tested, on a Dyno, different oct of gas on an RC51, and found that there was no horse power gain by using higher octane. not sure if there was any results on mileage. I have noted that i get better mileage on the 9ner when i use 87. Again air temp, quality, and your PC3 play into optimizing your mileage.

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04 919 here, light comes on around 140 and 13 miles each way to work, I will ride one way to work, but my mind just won't let me ride it home with out refilling it (then again the ride home has a bunch of uphill). Typically put about 3.8 - 4 gallons in it. If I set off from the house with more than 100 miles on the tank for a fun ride, it's time to fuel up first. Getting stuck in Angeles Crest with no fuel just sounds dumb.

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04 919 here, light comes on around 140 and 13 miles each way to work, I will ride one way to work, but my mind just won't let me ride it home with out refilling it (then again the ride home has a bunch of uphill). Typically put about 3.8 - 4 gallons in it. If I set off from the house with more than 100 miles on the tank for a fun ride, it's time to fuel up first. Getting stuck in Angeles Crest with no fuel just sounds dumb.
Attachment 4190 Exactly the same here. 06' 919

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