Check out the above link for the worst case scenerio of mounting them in position B. Nasty, nasty. He must have gone down hard because I went down hard enough to bend the bolt on a Sato slider and split the slider in half and my engine case came out ok. Still have mine in position B but after seeing that hole, I think I'm going to move them to position A!
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another point to consider is how they mate up to the frame...you don't want oversized sliders and an undersized bolt w/ too much offset between the slider and the frame creating an exaggerated point of failure...
checkout the LOS sliders, the LOS setup is a good place to start
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Yes, adam, you are wrong wrong wrong like a swinging monkey dong. No seriously, a frame is gonna take a tweak and the case is gonna get boned. But I like the idea of making your own.
Yep, Bigdaa, I am wrong. That's what I get for assuming....lol. I just looked on Ronayers.com and the frame and the crankcase are only 126 dollars difference. Plus, what am I thinking, I would rather swap a frame than a whole engine case, I'm a tard.
I picked up sliders from Motovation. Mounting location A for about $30 less than LOS crash bobbins. They use a rod all the way through, just like they should. I haven't had to use them, yet. Hopefully I'll never need them.
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Best of both worlds? Just wish they were about $100 cheaper....
It would be a better choice than an engine case only. It gets to transfer load through a machined (therefore bendable and not breakable) aluminum mount to two different locations. I still gotta recommend getting away from any motor contact. The slider contact point is also placed away from the bolt centerlines and this makes a lever arm, which magnifies the force to the mounting points during impact.
I think that some of this stuff is engineered for sale and not for function. But in the case of the double mount, there is some thought given to the 'frailty' of the engine mount alone. It is a rule that cast stuff is weaker than machined billet. Also, steel is very good at absorbing energy while maintaining it's form without breaking.
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only other comment...the sliders that have a designed gap between the frame and the bobbin (creating that bad-news point of leverage), in some cases, can be improved w/a couple washers to take up the gap (thx m51142 4 the suggestion)
Boy I have seen that up close.. thats my pic.. ouch.
Originally Posted by m51142
Here is another photo of a Sato mounted to the motor.
Not a pretty sight...
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