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post #1 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 03:37 AM Thread Starter
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Flyscreen or not ?

I have just purchased a new 919 (Hornet in Australia) and am trying to decide if I should install a flyscreen. Most of my riding is on country roads at about 100kmh (60 mph) for an hour or two. I dont want to lose the cool naked look and wonder how functional the screens are. Here in Oz, National Cycle F15, F16 and F18 are available. I would welcome opinions, pros and cons and how easy they are to install.

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post #2 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 03:58 AM
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I'd say yes, I've been riding without one and while most of my riding is at about the same speed, it gets increasingly tiring at speeds just a tad faster. I just don't have the funds at the moment for the upgrade.

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I had the OEM flyscreen on my 919 when I bought it. It wasn't very useful as far as wind management goes, and once you get up to 60 and higher it's nearly useless.

Any windscreens' effectiveness is going to be determined by how tall you are and how fast you ride. The taller you are, the more wind you'll get. Since it's a new bike to you, I'd recommend riding it for a thousand miles and then reassess your windscreen needs.

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Hi, i find that u can go slightly faster while trying out ur top speed with a shield (with me prone down behind it). else, it just might improve the fuel consumption by just a bit with the slight improved aerodynamic of the bike.

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post #5 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 04:34 AM
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I rode for a year without one and it was fine. I recently bought a Givi off of e-bay for $19 (a lil taller than the OEM). Figured at that price it was worth a try. After having it on for about a month, I would have to say that it doesnt make that big of a difference as Ken said, but I do like the looks of it on the bike

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post #6 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 04:58 AM
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I have the National Cycle F16 (which I think is a bit shorter than the 18) and I think it compliments the "look" just fine. As far as looks on a naked bike are concerned I didn't want anything really big. The main reason I got one was to take some of the wind off my chest. I am about 5'10" tall and have a Corbin seat. In my opinion the screen does a nice job of reducing the amount of wind impacting the chest area. The head/helmet area is still totally in the wind.

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post #7 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 05:06 AM
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My vote is no screen at all. Over the years I've had three naked and eight faired bikes. All faired bikes except an 08 kawa ZZR600 put at least some wind blast/turbulence right at the neck/helmet which I find very annoying even with ear plugs. The 919 and most nakeds leave your head in a relatively clean air flow,much smoother and quieter. My other nakeds were a 2000 nighthawk 750 and an '06 sv650. The 919 beats those two bikes at air flow management for two main reasons. First, the 919 has less force pulling my legs away from the tank. Secondly, the shape and location of the headlight/instruments offers a surprising amount of protection. Another too infrequently mentioned way of dealing with wind on any naked is your gear. Wearing snug fitting gear reduces felt wind noise,drag, turbulence and flapping. PhilS, the 919 is perfect as is for the 60ish speeds you're running. I find my 919 ok up to about 70 actual speed. If anybody wants to cruise much faster than that, a good faired bike is the way to go.

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post #8 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 05:12 AM
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I have a stock windscreen on mine and it seems to help some. It takes some of the blast off your mid section and lower chest while giving your head clean air to cut through. I like the way it looks without the screen better, but hate cleaning all the bug guts off the back of the gauges.

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post #9 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 05:28 AM
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ditto for me murphy, yucky bugs, but as a high note, i have watched big bugs zing right off my screen, really neat to see





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post #10 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 08:29 AM
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I've rode with the National Cycle F-16 tall, no screen and this summer with the OEM one.

Wouldn't take mine off now for anything, higher speeds it gets quite a bit of pressure off your chest, haven't noticed an increase in noise with it on either.

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post #11 of 24 Old 10-03-2008, 09:08 AM
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i have the nat'l f-18. works good, looks good, takes about 15 minutes to install.

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I like my Givi 240A. Wouldn't be without it.

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I have the F-18 as well. Love it. Looks sexy, takes some wind off your chest. A little more wind noise however, but worth it.

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I have the OEM screen and only take it off when using my tank-mounted camcorder. It's more useful as a flyscreen than a windscreen. It actually creates more turbulence and wind noise. I have tinnitis from my Army years as a tank mechanic (running the motors out of the hull with no mufflers ), rock concerts, and shooting firearms with no hearing protection, so noise is not an issue.

IMO bike looks sportier with the OEM screen painted black.

It also helps on the track at 100+ mph, especially on a windy day at Willow Springs.

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post #15 of 24 Old 10-04-2008, 07:44 AM
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I have the OEM screen and only take it off when using my tank-mounted camcorder. It's more useful as a flyscreen than a windscreen. It actually creates more turbulence and wind noise. I have tinnitis from my Army years as a tank mechanic (running the motors out of the hull with no mufflers ), rock concerts, and shooting firearms with no hearing protection, so noise is not an issue.

IMO bike looks sportier with the OEM screen painted black.

It also helps on the track at 100+ mph, especially on a windy day at Willow Springs.
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post #16 of 24 Old 10-04-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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Hi All <S>,

I picked up my new 2007 919 two weeks and two days ago. Love it 1200 miles already, big change from my BMW 650. Anyway, regarding this post, here is my NC F-16 fairing. I've used it for the past 600 miles. It stays. Takes the pressure off the chest area, helmet area is still pretty turbulence free.


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Welcome aboard Bike#9 and congrats on the new bike.

Make sure to check this out: https://www.wristtwisters.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1209

And the Periodic Ride thread by Rob Tharalson.

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Thanks Sokali,

I read most of the "How to" articles (and past forum post) in the couple weeks leading up to my purchase. This site was a great help. I didn't want the cramped riding sport bike position (and I couldn't afford the BMW MegaMoto so it came down to the Suzuki 1250 Bandit and the 919. ~Same HP/torque but less weight with the 919. Plus I like the Honda looks/build quality.

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Thanks Sokali,

I read most of the "How to" articles (and past forum post) in the couple weeks leading up to my purchase. This site was a great help. I didn't want the cramped riding sport bike position (and I couldn't afford the BMW MegaMoto so it came down to the Suzuki 1250 Bandit and the 919. ~Same HP/torque but less weight with the 919. Plus I like the Honda looks/build quality.
You definitely made the right decision.

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I always thought flyscreens were fairly useless.... Looks like I might have thought wrong.

I've got the F16 penciled in on my xmas list...

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post #21 of 24 Old 10-04-2008, 11:45 PM
 
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Hi Sokali,

That picture was taken between Mt. Laguna and Julian, east of San Diego. It is my couple times a week ride area

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post #22 of 24 Old 10-05-2008, 07:43 AM
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I have the F-16 ride @ 95-100 mph indicated 140 miles a day to and from work
70 miles one way Im 5ft 6 in tall before the screen 75 80ish as wind would tire me out the only thing I dont like about the screen is the flexing it does .
the wind is off my chest but get a little bobble headed passing tractor trailers and large suvs other than that I love it .

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post #23 of 24 Old 10-05-2008, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
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Fyscreen or not

Thanks to everyone for their points of view. With the riding I have done so far on the bike and at the speeds I do, I have found it quite comfortable without a screen. If I get one it will probably only be to make the bike look better (IMO).

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post #24 of 24 Old 10-07-2008, 08:01 AM
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I absolutely liked my F16 screen. It lessened the buffeting while riding I 95 and dealing with semi's at 80 mph.
Positively allowed me to tuck behind it and stay warmer during those colder evenings when caught out after dark, riding home during our colder winter months here in the SC coastal area.


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