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F3 shock rebuild?

Sooo, I am getting to a point where I want to get rid of the pogo stick and generally mushy handling of my 919.

I am going to shag a F3 shock off Ebay and have it revalved and resprung. I already contacted Daugherty Motorsports and Traxxion to get a quote, but was curious if anyone can recommend another shop to do the work.

I am also going to rebuild the forks at the same time, plus a whole slew of other odds and ends that I have been collecting parts for.

And no, I am not going with a Ohlins or Penske shocks, I see no point in spending that much money on a commuter bike.

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Well, as much as I would like to go with an Ohlins shock, I am a bit to good at math to do so. For the cost of an Ohlins I can get a F3 shock rebuild, new fork springs and valves, new tires, and still have plenty of gas/hotel money left over to ride out to New Mexico again.

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what makes you think f3 shock is better than 9ers?

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Well, it's not hard to find instances where people have done the rebuilt F3 swap, only once have I "heard" of a 919 shock being rebuilt. Although the one person who had the 919 shock rebuilt is extremely happy with his decision.

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Well, it's not hard to find instances where people have done the rebuilt F3 swap, only once have I "heard" of a 919 shock being rebuilt. Although the one person who had the 919 shock rebuilt is extremely happy with his decision.
who is crazy enough to do such a thing?

You will be close to $500 with any build. Spring alone is $100. If that's what you wish, anything can be done.

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One could probably find HO322 Ohlins brand new for under $600.

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^ Both options way better than rebuilding an F3 shock.

The rebuild will run you around $400-500 and not be near as nice as a custom made new ohlins.
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who is crazy enough to do such a thing?

You will be close to $500 with any build. Spring alone is $100. If that's what you wish, anything can be done.

Lowest quote was 295.00
Highest quote was 380.00

That includes a new spring.

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For a few hundred more you can buy an Ohlins from LDH
A few hundred less and I have money left over to rebuild my forks.

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^ Both options way better than rebuilding an F3 shock.

The rebuild will run you around $400-500 and not be near as nice as a custom made new ohlins.
I could really care less how nice the ohlins is, I am not spending 1/4 of the bikes value on a shock when more affordable options exist. Every single person that I have read about who has done the F3 rebuild and swap is pleased with the results.

I like my bike for what it is, an older commuter bike that's fun to ride and very economical. Dropping 1/4 the value of the bike into a upgrade is pure silliness for me and my needs.

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How much for the shock?

Around 40-50.00 shipped off Ebay. It will be free if my buddy has one in his pasts bin.

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One could probably find HO322 Ohlins brand new for under $600.
While true, it's still close to twice the cost of the F3 shock.

Even the cheapest Ohlins cost more than the F3 shocks and new springs/oil/seals in the forks.

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Hope I don't sound rude, I simply have no interest in an Ohlins shock.

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While true, it's still close to twice the cost of the F3 shock.

Even the cheapest Ohlins cost more than the F3 shocks and new springs/oil/seals in the forks.
The Hagon shocks run $400 new with warranty. The reason I am trying to detour you from the F3 is that it sits lower when mounted. I have a Works shock, Clorox has a stock 919 shock, and my brother has the F3 shock. We had all 3 919's lined up and the tail of the F3 one was sitting lower.
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The Hagon shocks run $400 new with warranty. The reason I am trying to detour you from the F3 is that it sits lower when mounted. I have a Works shock, Clorox has a stock 919 shock, and my brother has the F3 shock. We had all 3 919's lined up and the tail of the F3 one was sitting lower.

Wait, lower. It's my understanding that the F3 shock is longer than the 919 shock. Out of the three bikes, are all three using the same mounting hole and is the preload the same?

As for Hagon, I'll definitely look into them. that price is much more palatable to my frugal spending habits.

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Yep same mounting hole. Same preload settings but it wasn't a rebuilt shock. It rode well but definitely felt lowered.

Yeah someone in here used hagon for track days till they upgraded further. Hagon MonoShocks
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who is crazy enough to do such a thing?
Daugherty Motorsports.

Lots have had just this done and fitted them to other bikes. Best part is it gets a new custom piston.

Even better for the OP would be to send the 919 shock along with the F3 one. Then Jamie can mate the F3 comp adjuster and can to the 919 shock!

Job done.

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So you did all that and didnt fit a better piston?

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So you did all that and didnt fit a better piston?
Oh no, I forgot to do better piston. Read the thread

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I think I have spent 6500 or so thus far.

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Yep same mounting hole. Same preload settings but it wasn't a rebuilt shock. It rode well but definitely felt lowered.

Yeah someone in here used hagon for track days till they upgraded further. Hagon MonoShocks

Ahhh, I see. I think the not being rebuilt is why his sits lower. Besides lower isn't a bat thing, then I can ride around constantly revving the motor and get my squid on ;-)

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Besides lower isn't a bat thing, then I can ride around constantly revving the motor and get my squid on ;-)
Also, make sure you stretch it and ride around shirtless with angel wing tattoos on your back... oh and sunglasses, no helmet, shorts, and running shoes. (Saw this exact description flying down the highway )

I would still give Hagon a call and see if they can cut you a discount. Good luck with whichever route you go.
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Also, make sure you stretch it and ride around shirtless with angel wing tattoos on your back... oh and sunglasses, no helmet, shorts, and running shoes.
He had shoes on? What a pansy. Flip-flops for the win.

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Oh no, I forgot to do better piston. Read the thread
I did. You dont say you have fitted a better piston.

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Also, make sure you stretch it and ride around shirtless with angel wing tattoos on your back... oh and sunglasses, no helmet, shorts, and running shoes. (Saw this exact description flying down the highway )

I would still give Hagon a call and see if they can cut you a discount. Good luck with whichever route you go.

running shoes.... nope, flip flops for me. Never know when you will have to ditch the bike and look like a tourist at the beach...lol.

Sadly, thats how a lot of riders dress around here..lol.

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And to think, I have worn proper riding boots all of these years!

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And to think, I have worn proper riding boots all of these years!
Did you get a shock sorted?

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Did you get a shock sorted?

Well, I have everything figured out and I will order a used one off of Ebay this weekend. I am going to have Daughterty motorsports rebuild it. 295.00 to get it rebuilt and resprung, for me and my needs it's the best option.

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Subscribing to this thread. Please post up and let us know how it goes? I have an F3 shock sitting in my shed that would make a perfect candidate if you're happy with the results.

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Subscribing to this thread. Please post up and let us know how it goes? I have an F3 shock sitting in my shed that would make a perfect candidate if you're happy with the results.

I most certainly shall. It should take me a week or so to get a shock in my hands then three to four weeks to get it worked on and shipped back. Might be a few weeks after that before i can install it. I am also going to swap out a few other parts and repaint the swing arm so it will be a little more than a weekend project.

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I most certainly shall. It should take me a week or so to get a shock in my hands then three to four weeks to get it worked on and shipped back. Might be a few weeks after that before i can install it. I am also going to swap out a few other parts and repaint the swing arm so it will be a little more than a weekend project.
Sweet, let us know after the test ride in a month or two.

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Well, I sent the rear shock off to Race Tech. After discussing it via e-mail and sending them the F3 shock, they just contacted me and stated that they need a 919 shock to be able to pull measurements and spring rates from.

Looks like I'll be using a different suspension place.

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