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Exhaust Advice for Lazy Guy

The title is aptly named because I did not do a search for this thread, and I am sure this has been posted before. However, I am a huge fan of redundancy so I am bringing it back old school. My wife just gave me the go ahead to get a slip on exhaust (and PCIII, although I might have to sneak that one by) for my 07 919, and I had a couple of general questions.

1.) I have seen that a lot of exhausts have specific model dates spanning from 02–05. As far as slip-on exhausts go, were there any changes throughout the model years to the exhaust setup on the 919 that would effect the type of exhaust I could use? I guess I am trying to say, if I bought an exahust that said for 02–04 models, could I use this exhaust on my 07 without any type of extra inconvenience or work required?

2.) I would like to do some touring this summer, and I am worried about excessive heat from the pipes limiting the use of saddlebags. Would carbon fiber slip-ons run run cool enough to throw saddlebags on top of them? Are the carbon fiber slips-ons a lot cooler heatwise than titanium or aluminum exhausts?

3.) I have heard really good things about the Sato exhausts and the Akrapovic exhausts, but I am also intested by the two brothers dual "stash" pipe setup. Is the two brother's "stash" slip-on inferior to the other two above in terms of build quality and finish? What would be the advantages/disadvantages of going with a single exhaust system versus the standard dual exhaust?

4.) I definitely want to have a more "intimidating" sound coming out of my bike, but at the same time I don't want to be obscene and wake up the neighbors when I start my bike every morning. Are there any slip-ons that are a good compromise? If I keep the revs low will that be enough to limit excessive sound?

5.) Will adding an aftermarket slip-on and PCIII have any effect on the warranty?

6.) My bike currently has 700 miles and just had its first service done. Do I need to wait until a specific mileage before I add the slip-ons and PCIII?

7.) Should I go ahead and get a new air filter also? If so, are there any particular brands you guys would reccomend?

8.) Are there any specific exhausts that you guys would personally reccomend, or recommend that I stay clear of?

Thanks in advance guys.

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You type a lot of text for a lazy guy.

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You type a lot of text for a lazy guy.


I was thinking that very same thing


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1. You can use any exhaust for the 919 from '02 to '07...no differences. Also you don't need a PCIII


2. I have Carbon Sato's and haven't melted my bags yet.


3.Sato's and Akra's are in another class alltogether vs Two Brothers. If you put them side by side you would see glaring differences but if the 2 Bors make you happy go for it. Advantage of the single side exhaust? You can only burn yourself on one side...


4. Sound levels are subjective but most are relatively quiet until you open it up. I knwo some of the guys here run Yoshi's with the baffle in place and I understand it isn't much louder than stock.


5.Don't know.....again you don't need a PCIII


6.No


7.Again NO, stick with the Honda OEM fi you ever need to change it.


8.Reccomend? Sato, Akra, Mori, Yoshi, MIVV are a few good brands.....stay away from? Two Brothers, Arrow, D&D....these are just my opinions though




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I have stainless yoshi's, and I believe for the price they are a beautiful pipe.
And I can rest my hand on them and not get burned. I would have no reservations about throwing bags over them. And yes, they are quiet with the baffles in, and scream with them out.

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1. yes. the later models had catastrophic constipators in the y pipe. but a replacement y or midpipe will eliminate those. hooray!
2. yes, yes. but make sure you don't put a hershey bar in there. they still get warm. make sure your bags have some type of heat barrier.
3. Satos are amazing quality. Akro's have an amazing reputation for making power. w/ a slip on, you will not gain much. the 2br stash pipe isn't very large, but it more than quadruples the available space that a 919 has to carry things. they aren't bad. single exhaust is fine, really, depends on what you like. same for brand of slip on.
4. you can ride your bicycle and offend someone. chose what YOU want, and ride how you want your neighbors to ride... you should be good
5. warranty? i have never used it for anything from Honda, so i don't know...
6. might as well start modding now! then, the next upgrade is that much closer!
7. K&N makes one, the gains are negligible. really, the cost of the filter+cleaner+oil... stock ones are cheap. and they flow a lot.
8. i don't like straight pipes. so avoid those. unless that's what you want. there is a recent thread about exhaust companies on the 'recent threads' right now. you can look there. the possobilities are endless!

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man... like when i started typing, nobody had replied. i need typing lessons so i can be speedy and stuff.

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man... like when i started typing, nobody had replied. i need typing lessons so i can be speedy and stuff.

At least you don't look like you have dislexia when you type




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Damn, you guys are fast. Thanks for the excellent suggestions and information. I am glad the PCIII is not required. I am now leaning towards either the Sato, Yoshimura, or Akropovics and will be sure to post some pics after I get them on.

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I love my sato's 02-07 are all the same

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I have stainless yoshi's, and I believe for the price they are a beautiful pipe.
And I can rest my hand on them and not get burned. I would have no reservations about throwing bags over them. And yes, they are quiet with the baffles in, and scream with them out.
I have stainless Yosh. To loud without inserts, and too quiet with them in.
I cut the inserts just where they taper not realy knowing what that would do.
Now it sounds just right ( for me anyway )

Price was more within my budget than Sato or Akro.
Runs fine without PC III

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yah. jeff is a firefighter. trust him.

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I really like the Yoshimura shape, either in carbon or titanium. I just wish I could get the original longer spouts on it, like Hairball mentioned. Might have to call them direct and see if they still have some spouts in stock to sell to me, or if I can get the whole set with them installed from them. I mean, some of their other similar mufflers got the spouts, what's up?

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Not sure why there is so little faith in the 2 Bros. Anyone have any bad experiences? I have a single side carbon full system that looks flawless, sounds great, and conducts almost no heat. It has always been cool enough to comfortably touch. I suppose if someone wanted to trade for the Akro's I would, but I'm not really sure what the big deal is.

Also, there is a pretty...informative...thread about the K&N air filter below. Take a look at the poll results. (Notice how ZERO people have actually EXPERIENCED negative results from the K&N?)
https://www.wristtwisters.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=18597

My bike came with the PCIII so can't give you much advice there.

Here's a 'heads up'... This website has tons of great information, but sometimes you're going to run into people who find it difficult to get over what they 'know'. For instance, there are many on this site who really think that because my bike has a 2 bros. exhaust and a K&N air filter, it is actually slower than stock. You're always going to find some nay-sayers. Read up, make your decision, and enjoy the ride!

I'm starting to think there may be some Sato stakeholders among us...

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I have stainless Yosh. To loud without inserts
Actually, I thought it was just right

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And if you see him running try to keep Up
I love your latest avatar.

My bike is red ( like a fire truck )

BTW, FF's don't lie.

Actually, I like my Yosh cans. But that's just my opinion.
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not lazy but I am cheap. check out the baffectomy It sounds cool to me and It's almost free.

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Sweet, I went ahead and ordered the Yoshi stainless steel exhaust. Thanks again for the excellent advice and opinions.

Now for an unrelated question. I see that many of you recommend the motivation frame mounted sliders. When I was looking at the site it mentioned the following: "PLEASE NOTE that drilling/reaming of the frame to accept a 10mm rod is required." Is this something that needs to be done at a shop?

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Sweet, I went ahead and ordered the Yoshi stainless steel exhaust. Thanks again for the excellent advice and opinions.

Now for an unrelated question. I see that many of you recommend the motivation frame mounted sliders. When I was looking at the site it mentioned the following: "PLEASE NOTE that drilling/reaming of the frame to accept a 10mm rod is required." Is this something that needs to be done at a shop?
nope...electric hand drill .... a couple extra bits... and some cutting oil... and voila...

do it yourself... easy peasy...



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easy breezy, beautiful... hmmm.... that's the wrong jingle...

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hope you enjoy the yosh pipes that's what i had on another bike and loved the sound. most yosh pipes that i have heard have a nice warm sound. someone asked about people not liking the D&D pipes all I can say from what I've personally heard on a few different bikes is go with D&D if you like LOUD! too obnoxious for my personal taste but to each his own it's all subjective anyway.

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I have the 2 Bros The Stash in carbon and I love the look and when I jump on it I just love the sound. My question is I see from previous post that it is not necessary to add, as in my case, the 2 Bros Juice Box, it has pretty lights but does it really add that extra performance?

Also I have installed the motivation frame mounted sliders and purchased a 10 MM Drill some cutting oil and took my time. It is a nice snug fit but very much worth doing. There are 2 kinds of riders ones that have drooped there bikes and ones that are going to.


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a programmer in our case adds tuneability, more than power. you can smooth out the injection, a/f ratio, set the accel pump how you like it, but i have no experience w/ the 2br juice box. most of us don't bash 2br; but it's like comparing your VW to a porsche. it may be just as fast, but it's not a porsche. oui?

i had a 2br on my bike, but i kinda broke it, now i have a $5 yoshi from ebay. it is awesome. then i sawed it down so it wasn't sooooooo long, and got a bit more raquet out of it

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