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post #1 of 27 Old 08-25-2008, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
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Dragging a 919 !

I built this in about a hour so I could tow my bike down to Waco. My buddy was buying a new Hardly Dangerous Fat Bob and the only one in stock was 4 hours away in Waco, TX. Since the wives wanted to go I figured that I should tow my bike down there but I didn't want to drag a trailer and get bad MPG. So I threw this together and it worked great. I was quite nervous for a bit but no problems what so ever. I just strapped it down to the out riggers and put the bike in neutral. There were no logged miles since the key was off.

I also finished the stainless GP exhaust the night before. I will post better pics when I get some. It sound great, runs good, and no stinky.


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post #2 of 27 Old 08-25-2008, 09:16 PM
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I like that. You should patent it and sell it.

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Did you copy the tow hitch from somewhere else? I have seen that before and it was for sale. Stills looks great, but I personally would rather the trailer, because I wouldn't want to run down my rear tire while towing. Just me

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They sell one similar but it is adjustable in height and there are no outriggers. It only has 3 straps that go around the wheel. That didn't look very sturdy to me and they want $650 for it. The only crappy thing is it takes two people to lift the front end up. No biggie though.

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I thought about the tire wear but it would be less than if I rode it the same distance. There is no acceleration or braking. I still got an average of 27.5 mpg on the way while towing.

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Sounds pretty appealing then. It's to bad I don't have your skills and tools, because I would attempt making one for myself. Sunday I'm taking a friend to pick up an 03 919.

More pictures of your tow hitch and exhaust would be greatly appreciated.

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It really was an easy build. I will take it to powdercoat in a week or so. Here is a little different angle.


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Uhhm,,,,

Wheres the exhaust?

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It exits just behind the rider peg on the lower right by the swingarm. I took of the dual CF Satos, y-pipe and got rid of some of the restrictive stock tubing. The first photo in the top post shows it best. I will post some better pics in the next day or two.

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This may be a dumb question but I'll ask anyway, is there no issues with your gears spinning away in your gearbox without the oil pump since your engine is off??? I'm assuming this must be ok if they are selling these type of devices somewhere, of course that doesn't change the fact that you won't catch me dragging my 919 around unless it's on the trailer but I just kinda wanted to know about this!!

LOVE the pipe idea, MUST see better pics!!!!


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That is a good question and one I thought about. The tranny gears are bathed by the oil in the pan and lower end. The transmission is not oiled by the oil pump. I would have removed the chain if it wasn't such a PITA to get the links off and on.

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This may be a dumb question but I'll ask anyway, is there no issues with your gears spinning away in your gearbox without the oil pump since your engine is off??? I'm assuming this must be ok if they are selling these type of devices somewhere, of course that doesn't change the fact that you won't catch me dragging my 919 around unless it's on the trailer but I just kinda wanted to know about this!!

LOVE the pipe idea, MUST see better pics!!!!
I believe that was discussed before when the retail version of this idea came out. I don't recall the official word on it. I think it was undetermined as to what kind of risk to the tranny there would be.

My question is about legality... I assume the bike's brake light and turn sigs aren't working in this config. So is it legal? Plus your license plate on your car appears to be blocked by the bike. Is that a problem as well?

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More pics of the pipe please. From the first picture, that GP pipe looks great.

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As far as the legallity that is a good question. My tailight and blinkers on the CRV was not obscured so I beleive I would be fine. I had a Dallas Moto-officer pass me and wave so I guess he was fine with it. My car plate was blocked from the rear view but my bike plate was visible. Good questions. I really am not too worried about it. People in TX drive unregistered and un-lit trailers all the time with no repercussions. Those setups are dangerous though and shouldn't be allowed.

As far as the tranny goes I would imagine that it would be bike specific. I think the 919 is a constant mesh tranny so the main shaft would be spinning in oil with the secondary shaft. I haven't had any problems whatsoever and I have ridden about 1000mi since. I think the problem would happen during towing if it wasn't compatible.

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if you're concerned about the transmission (which appears to be a non-issue) you could always leave the bike idling back there. that would be about as cheap a fix as you could ask for.

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Bucky we have a partially all Honda household. There is a 1954 Ford 2 door and a 1965 Ford F100 lurking behind the scenes. But that was back when Ford was still made form steel. But we are very Honda loyal. I still like your hauling method best though.

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If you're concerned about the transmission, then just loosen the rear axle or remove it, slide the rear tire all the way forward, take the chain off the rear sprocket and tie it up somewhere for the trip. Then when you get there put it back on. That would take all of about 5 minutes.

My brother and I designed a hauler something like that and had it made by a welder. We had him weld a trailer tongue jack onto the car mount and the bike wheel mount onto the lowering part of the jack. That way you just drive it one and then jack it up. We still haven't taken any long trips with it like that yet though.

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27.5 mpg's, pretty good. But if you were really smart, instead of car pulling bike, you'd have had the bike push the car. Duh!

I wonder if a car ramp or 2 would enable you to load and unload by yourself?

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That is a good idea XR. I beleive that is similar to the $650 model available.

We thought about using the bike to power the CRV Sniper, but I think I would have had to put a new clutch in it half way there. A car ramp is a great idea also. I bet it would be close.

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thanks rc, i'm fond of mine too~

remember, you don't have to choose 919 OR CR-V power, you can choose BOTH simultaneously. HYBRID ! a CR-V with around 220 hp to the ground, 5 wheel drive.

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VERY interested in hearing more details about your exhaust and seeing some close-up pics!

Good job on the hauler!

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I built this in about a hour so I could tow my bike down to Waco. My buddy was buying a new Hardly Dangerous Fat Bob and the only one in stock was 4 hours away in Waco, TX. Since the wives wanted to go I figured that I should tow my bike down there but I didn't want to drag a trailer and get bad MPG. So I threw this together and it worked great. I was quite nervous for a bit but no problems what so ever. I just strapped it down to the out riggers and put the bike in neutral. There were no logged miles since the key was off.

I also finished the stainless GP exhaust the night before. I will post better pics when I get some. It sound great, runs good, and no stinky.

Cool setup BTW.. was wondering if you could post some closer-up pics?

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Love the idea, but i think i can afford a small trailer. Less stressful of a drive

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RoyalChopper,

If the end of the square tubing sticking out of the hitch was left open, couldn't you take a smaller piece of tubing, weld on a ramp, drill some holes for a pin, and make a removable ramp for easy 1-person loading/unloading? Wouldn't 1 inch square tubing slide inside 1.25 tubing (assuming standard Reese sizing).

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Yeah I am sure one could make a removable ramp of sorts. That is a good idea to slide it into the tubing. I will see what I come up with when I get back around to it.

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Grrr! A couple weeks ago I had this brilliant idea and have started to design something JUST like this! I thought I would be the first, but no.... Ah well, so it goes. Very cool MC hauler design! Good for you, Royal Choppers!

I also found some similar haulers on ebay...


does anyone else have any good or bad experience with haulers like this?
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