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Dont kill me, another oil q/a

about to do my 1st oil change and a friend that rides a sv650 swears by rotella t6full synthetic in the blue bottle, BUT it says energy saving?!?!?!


this is what i wanted to get, before i fuck my bike up can you guys please verify that this is safe?

Walmart.com: Rotella T 10W-30 Motor Oil, 1 Gal: Automotive

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oh and what size socket is the oil drain plug?

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Wrong weight.........

I use 5W40.

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oh and how much goes back in?

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The majority uses 5w40 (T6) and 15w40 (Triple Protect) as far as Rotella goes. I on the other hand prefer Mobil Delvac 15w40, after trying it and going 5,000 miles on intervals, I'm sold with smooth shifting all the way to the oil change.

If you use an extended filter (Mobil m110 or Bosch 3323), you can put in the whole gallon no problem and have it line up between the middle and upper line on the window. If I remember correctly, the drain bolt is 17mm...

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yes.... the Rotella T 15w-40 (standard oil) and Rotella T6 5w-40 ("full syn") are both JASO MA certified (so no energy conserving additives)... both are great oils and are cheap... i run the cheaper standard 15w-40 in all my stuff.

so as long as you get either one of those your fime.

And like stated you can pop a whole gallon in it (properly it should be 3.8 gallons but a lil extra aint gonna do no harm).

You can also grab a supertech filter from walmart for cheap as well.... not sure of the model number for that someone will speak up at somepoint on that im sure.

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BUT it says energy saving?!?!?!
^^^^^^that's what you DON'T want.^^^^^^^

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You can also grab a supertech filter from walmart for cheap as well.... not sure of the model number for that someone will speak up at somepoint on that im sure.
Sadly, WalMart has quit carrying the Supertech Oil Filters. I read it on another forum and checked my local WalMart and not a single one on the shelf. Not even a space for them. Looks like the replaced them with classic Purolators.

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10-30 or 10-40 are what Honda recommend but either of the earlier options are fine in this engine.

Honda recommended 10-40 up until the last models when they stuck a sticker over the 10-40 stating 10-30. All to do with some US energy conserving shit and 10-30 gave a better 'green' rating!

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$21. That makes me sick. That shit would be $80-$90 in New Zealand.

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Yeah I'm hearing you! We are only slightly cheaper in Aus. But compared to what you guys pay it's like liquid ecstasy!

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Sadly, WalMart has quit carrying the Supertech Oil Filters. I read it on another forum and checked my local WalMart and not a single one on the shelf. Not even a space for them. Looks like the replaced them with classic Purolators.
What? I just saw some 2 days ago. Looks like I'm going back to buy all they have.



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What? I just saw some 2 days ago. Looks like I'm going back to buy all they have.
That was my plan....foiled!

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I use the Honda GN-4 stuff, 10w 30 I believe with the OEM Honda filter.

I've put in the whole gallon last change, tried to drain some but didn't get enough out. Oil still filled the sight glass fully past the top line, but as some told me on here it didn't hurt anything that I can tell. The engine did seem to burn some oil though, it went to about halfway between the lines (where it should be) and stayed there.The hornet is so smart it fixed my mistake! So I wouldn't worry too much about being exact with the 3.8 qts.

I am planning to try this T6 stuff you hear so much about on here next change. I like that it's cheap, the Honda stuff is like 30 bucks a gallon at my dealer.

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Up here the Rotella container is a full 4L. I can't pour it all in. I didn't realize we had different sizes in Canada than USA.

Don't a lot of cars take a full 4L? Does this mean that you need to buy a gallon and a small (1L?) bottle every time?


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Up here the Rotella container is a full 4L. I can't pour it all in. I didn't realize we had different sizes in Canada than USA.

Don't a lot of cars take a full 4L? Does this mean that you need to buy a gallon and a small (1L?) bottle every time?

Looks like yours have a little more in the bottle. Ours are 1 gallon for the Rotella




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K guys. The t-6 has reduced levels of zddp to accommodate the new diesel exhaust particulate bullcrap. If you can find the t5 or the regular t 15w-40 they are still very high in zddp.
Rotella,instead of lowering all their add packs to meet the new diesel requirements came out with the t-6 instead.
The t-6 is good oil,don't get me wrong,but tge add pack in the t-5 is better.
And walmart ditched supertech for purolator filters. Purolator are far better

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Car oil - mu Mitzi takes 4.2 litres (2 litre 4 cylinder), my XR6 (inline 6 cylinder, 4 litre engine) takes just over 5!

I have noticed in the shops if it isa American brand oil like Spectro a big pack is 3.8 l, other brands are 4.0.

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Car oil - mu Mitzi takes 4.2 litres (2 litre 4 cylinder), my XR6 (inline 6 cylinder, 4 litre engine) takes just over 5!

I have noticed in the shops if it isa American brand oil like Spectro a big pack is 3.8 l, other brands are 4.0.
American jugs are a US Gallon where as we in Canada get a 4 liter gallon.

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American jugs are a US Gallon where as we in Canada get a 4 liter gallon.
4 litres is 4 litres.

A US gallon is 3.78l, call it 3.8. An imperial gallon is 4.546l.

Sometimes we get oil for sale in 5l containers- worth keeping an eye out for, depending on price, since you're getting 25% more (than in the more common 4l bottles)...but we don't have Rotella, not that I've seen anyway. All our Shell products appear to be from the Helix line.

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Ok so I successfully did my 1st oil change! Poured in the whole bottle in. When the motor is NOT running it sit in the middle of the oil display. When I RUN the motor it drops completely out of the glass display.. is this normal?

also noticed this is broken. I bought the bike with a dent in the header pipes and when I went to Ionda for the 1st oil change they said the pipes were bent and has to pry them away from the oil drain plug( I had do do the same, no big deal) Any thoughts if I'm gonna have issues because of this later down the road? Can I get replacement part?
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Yes, the oil is not visible in the sight-glass when the engine in running. Not too much trouble to weld that holder....so I'm told.

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That tab breaking is common. I have nothing supporting my headers (900rr) except the can bracket at the rear. They are sturdy.

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Mines broken as well. Never had any issues, seems sturdy. I'm not messing with it.

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It seems to only become an issue when someone tries to get a safety inspection done. Some bikes have failed because of it.

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I just bought a jug of Rotella T6 at Walmart here. They're 5L jugs so you get a lot more than the 3.8L in the US.

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got a 5 QT jug of Mobil 1 full synthetic yesterday for $26 USD. not too shabby I think.

Definitely not the energy conserving garbage either.

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I just bought a jug of Rotella T6 at Walmart here. They're 5L jugs so you get a lot more than the 3.8L in the US.
I was at walmart yesterday. Is this what you bought? This just looks like heavy duty truck and equipment oil...
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can I put THIS in my bike???

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And like stated you can pop a whole gallon in it (properly it should be 3.8 gallons but a lil extra aint gonna do no harm).
If you can put 3.8 gallons of oil in it, that must be one hell of an oil filter!!

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Looks like yours have a little more in the bottle. Ours are 1 gallon for the Rotella

Tractor and farm supply places like Rural King have the 5.1 qt bottles. My Rural King has oil prices even cheaper then Walmart.

*EDIT* After re-reading I see what you are referring to however. Oops.

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I was at walmart yesterday. Is this what you bought? This just looks like heavy duty truck and equipment oil...
Shell Rotella® Products | Shell Rotella

can I put THIS in my bike???
Yup. I even put it in my cars! It has the JASO-MA certification for our bikes.

I know NAPA has a 20% rebate on the Rotella T6 now. I'll have to check their prices compared to Wal-Mart. NAPA has the 18L Pail too so you might save on a larger quantity.

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If you can put 3.8 gallons of oil in it, that must be one hell of an oil filter!!
Yeah that filter must be made in the same plant that Googles tank was made I think with that much oil a 20,000 mile oil change would seem ok

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