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post #1 of 54 Old 08-03-2007, 02:20 AM Thread Starter
 
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Design your price is no object 919?

Pretend you name is Roland S and you can design your 919 with any high end parts you can get to fit and work? Would you order a bunch of Ohlins shocks and a yosh exhaust or would you start tearing apart 954's and build the bike Honda should have? I would be tempted to keep it stealth with nothing but a nice full exhaust but a big bore kit and hidden nitrous.

There are so many nice products for the 919 (or ones that fit) ,which ones are the best?

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If price was no object, I wouldn't buy a 919.

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I'd do all the suspension and other handling bits I could. The 919's frame can't do well with the power it has already, why make it worse? Mmmmm Ohlins....

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If price was no object, I wouldn't buy a 919.

.. sorry
just curious... what would you buy, at what cost?


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Alexa's hornet is not too shabby.

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just curious... what would you buy, at what cost?

I think I'd seriously consider a Tuono. The more I read about that bike, the more I like it. However, I may go the sport touring route. In which case, I would more likely go with a BMW k1200gt.

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Alexa's hornet is not too shabby.
Wow!! That thing is cool. What swingarm do you believe that is? Neet to see a linked suspension on the niner.

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Wow!! That thing is cool. What swingarm do you believe that is? Neet to see a linked suspension on the niner.
It's a CBR, not sure if it is a 600rr or 1000rr.

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a 954, take the plastics off and throw on a round headlight?

OR, just buy a sportbike if that's what they want.

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a 954, take the plastics off and throw on a round headlight?

OR, just buy a sportbike if that's what they want.
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I'd buy the new Ducati 1098. Saw one at the track a couple of weeks a ago and man that thing is right!

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I'd buy the new Ducati 1098. Saw one at the track a couple of weeks a ago and man that thing is right!
+1 They reduced the price...by selling the base model.

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a 954, take the plastics off and throw on a round headlight?

OR, just buy a sportbike if that's what they want.
Already did that, but I left the plastic on and I just drew a circle on the headlight and I pretend its round.

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a 954, take the plastics off and throw on a round headlight?

OR, just buy a sportbike if that's what they want.
The true gear head will go to extremes to modify a stocker. The end result is personal satisfaction. Anyone with $$$ can go buy the latest/greatest repli. racer.

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Already did that, but I left the plastic on and I just drew a circle on the headlight and I pretend its round.
That made me laugh.

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The true gear head will go to extremes to modify a stocker. The end result is personal satisfaction. Anyone with $$$ can go buy the latest/greatest repli. racer.
Opinion alert! Stop reading right now. Thank you.

I think that's foolish. Anyone can blow a lot of time and even more money on something so it is like something that can be had cheaper, quicker, and probably better. I too can see how it could be satisfying to see your work once it's all done, too... but the buzz kill would to see a stock 954 going by at that moment.

The pride in doing that sort of work will be enough to have someone ticked at me for saying that, but it's been in the back of my mind for a long while now...

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rags: you are missing the boat, it's not about who is the fastest or has the most HP. It's about a 1 off creation.

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rags: you are missing the boat, it's not about who is the fastest or has the most HP. It's about a 1 off creation.
Oh.

I thought it was just, people trying to make their bikes into something they are not. Don't take that wrong, that's just what I thought. I can see wanting to be unique.

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I poured tons of money (when I had it) onto my CBR900RR' 93 just for shiet and giggles, in the end, I sold cos I was tired of it...

Now, trying to make a touring bike look and/or go like a sport bike is very funny to me but, to each his own and if it sets it apart from the next bike parked next to you... bitchin

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I would build a 1200cc Speed Triple with the tricked out suspension. I would the adjust the torque curve for the mid range, since the low end will already have enough torque for whatever you wish.

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Oh.

I thought it was just, people trying to make their bikes into something they are not. Don't take that wrong, that's just what I thought. I can see wanting to be unique.

Me:

Now that is what I'm talking about. Your next mod. should be a Stoner race rep. jacket. Nicky is done for this year.

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I'm going to try getting a picture of me pimped in my track suit and bits on my unicycle. The only mod on that is a white lettered tire and The Casualities band sticker on the fork.

Whoop, back on track... Um... yeah dude, Ohlins.

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I think some of you are missing the point. It is not what bike would you buy? but what would you add to a 919? It was actually seeing all the trick components on the Tueno that gave me the idea. Really it is not about making a 919 that can compete with a repliracer but one that can compete with a Tueno on looks and cool parts. If I was buying a bike right now it would be a new STREET(not speed) triple but I bought my 919 in 02. The 919 is also a way better choice for where I live as the roads are really rough and many are not paved. A Scrambler would have been the hot ticket around here 20 years ago.

I would probably trick out my 02 919 with Ohlins front and back
sato everything, Renthals , those controls that convert from shorty to long
and a pair of Marchesini wheels. I would leave the motor stock except for a Power commander3.

Or how about a theme build like going Cafe racer with rearsets ,clip ons and a single seat? Just look at the Ducati supersports. Or go GS on it's ass with a motorcross fender ,spoked wheels with dualsport tires?

Even crazier get a hardtail frame and swap as many 919 parts as possible to make a 70's style chopper like you would normally see with a 70's CB750.

The 919 has tons of potential although the chopper is stretching it a bit.
The 919 would make at least as cool a Cafe as a aircooled Ducati or as capable a GS with the right gearing and wheels as a big heavy aircooled BMW.
It is not about trying to get the 919 to be something it is not but to have a little creativity with the platform. The repliracer in many ways is the most boring type of bike because it is only good in a very narrow enviroment.
The move is to more versitile bikes like the Buell Ulesseys and the Multistrada or retro bikes like the Triumphs and Ducatis partly because of the success of bikes like the 919.

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Come on guy's. Be uniquely creative, not judgmental.
As if a factory was paying you to come up with something totaly new but due to budget restraints,you have to use the 919 platform.

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Like this one.

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Not sure why it's considered so laughable to want to do something original or change things...

No amount of money will ever make the 919 a sport bike, and nobody believes that it will. But some people like to do thing their way, and not how the rest of the flock says to, and I applaud anyone that does things the way they want. If you want a completely stock bike, great! If you want to spend tons of time and $$$ to make your bike YOURS, great! Whatever works for you, go for it and have fun with it!

I could buy a mini-van and it would serve all my needs, but I'd be miserable. Not just because it's a mini-van, but knowing that any moron on the block could own the exact same thing would drive me nuts. I've owned tons of cars, trucks, motorcycles, scooters, bicycles, etc. over the years and I can't recall ever leaving anything stock. That's just me. Even when I was 7 or 8 years old my brother and I were always swapping out parts on our bicycles (and later with dirt bikes) with other bikes just to have fun and make them unique.

Sorry if that came across as ranting!

By the way, love the bike pic Ragdoll - it's not my style, but I can tell that it somebody put in some work and it's pretty unique!

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I agree. I'm the same way. I have nothing that looks like anyone else's or anywhere near stock.
It sure hasn't stopped the Harley guy's!
I'm constantly trying to do something "different".
Or at least trying to add something that is "one off", no one else has it type of things.

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+1. I was just trying to find pics of that one when I saw your post. I've talked before about not liking most 919 mods that try to be post-modern and all that, but I really liked that one...was drooling when I saw it in the Honda mag...I was like "what is THAT?!?" .... then .... "OMG! It's a 9er??!!"

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+2, bought a 954 because I was tired of the 919 coming short. Not too concerned with ripping off the fairings either, they grow you on.

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I love that question. Here goes.
A viper HA stereolithography generator.
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Lincoln TIG welder (pick one).
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Complete plasma material deposition facility.
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All equipment and supplies for CF, CF/Kevlar, and Boron fiber fabrication.
850 square foot house with attached 3500 square foot 2 story garage/machine shop in the Malibu Hills. (Guess which I think is more important!)
The time to make proper use of all that.

Oh, yeah -- the 919.
-- Hossack front suspension in Boron/zirconium ceramic whisker composite bonded with inert atmosphere cured carbon/SIC fiber matrix over structural polyurethane core.
-- 5 spoke thinwall magnesium wheels with foamed magnesium cores similar in style to Marvic Piumas pickled for that classic Morris Mag look.
-- Brake rotors of sintered berillyum cores with plasma sprayed ceramic faces.
-- Front 6 silicon carbide piston differential bore calipers in Elektron. 2 piston rear.
-- Front and rear shock bodies in 0.020" thick 420 stainless steel, remote 6 stage damper bodies, composite springs.
-- CBR 600 swingarm (darn it -- some things can't be improved on) with fully adjustable linkage.
-- Chassis reconfigured for Hossack front, built in 0.022" thick 17-6 PH precipitation hardened stainless steel, internally reinforced with foamed epoxy/carbon.
-- Rear subframe in Boron/zirconium ceramic whisker composite bonded with inert atmosphere cured carbon/SIC fiber matrix over structural polyurethane core.
-- Stock seat, flattened slightly.
-- Carbon/kevlar fuel tank with explosafe liner mounted where the airbox is stock, extending almost to the swingarm pivot and upwards to about the rear 1/6th of the present tank. Approximately 7 gallon capacity.
-- Airbox where the present fuel tank is, with carefully hidden ram air NACA ducts.
-- "Fuel tank" and tail piece shape duplicated in Boron fiber. LED Rear turn signals and tail/brake lights integrated into tailpiece by laser micro drilling 1,250 holes in rear section and placing LEDs behind. Bodywork painted '02 yellow.
-- Twin 3" projector beam headlights linked to laser helmet tracker for corner illumination (headlights point where you look).
-- Rear view by 2 semi fisheye and 2 normal lenses on tailpiece feeding fiber optic cables. Display just above instruments.
-------- Engine ------------
-- Dry clutch. Magnesium side covers. Cbr 600 alternator (narrower).
-- .96:1 6th gear.
-- 74 mm bore for 1,000 cc. Beryllium pistons with zircomium piston rings.
-- Two stacked zirconium/SIC disc valves providing variable port timing riding in 2203 stainless hats cast into the magnesium cylinder head.
-- 22mm/38mm throttle bodies, two primary injectors and one intake horn injector per cylinder.
-- Prestressed carbon/boron/samarium whisker "muscle wrap" connecting rods.
-- Forged 4340 steel crankshaft.
-- Reverse flow cooling system. Linear radiator mounted under tail piece.
-- Four individual hydroformed 0.015" sheet titanium exponential taper reverse cone megaphones with integrated sound conditioners/mufflers.
-- Adjust on the fly closed loop engine management system with selectable heads up display.
-- 175 HP @ 13,500 RPM. Maximum safe engine speed 18,000.

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Outwardly, except for the front suspension and exhaust system, it will look close to stock. I anticipate an all up weight around 315 pounds.

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I understand the point of customizing your ride. But, I'm missing the point on the 919. Isn't the concept of the 919 to get a good all-around bike at a good all-around value? Certainly, you can do many things to it. But, at a no cost situation to me defeats the intentions of the 919.

Maybe I'm still the best-bang-for-the-buck type of guy.

But, when it comes to the H-D. That chrome bolt cover is worth every bit it's $100!

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Why is everyone having such a hard time with UNSUB'S thread? I have often thought about turning the 919 into a heavy motard bike of sorts. Maybe build a cradle style frame and throw some Marzocchi dirtbike forks on it. Some Magnesium 5 spokes with motard tires. Throw a stiff swingarm on it like from the Aprilia SXV motard. It would be a heavy pig with the weight up in the air like that, but it would look pretty cool.

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I think it would be cool to mod it into some type of adventure bike,Thats the only mod style I can`t find a pic of being done to the 919.

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I am all about the 1 off bikes. Performance is great and don't get me wrong I want a sport bike as well. In fact, I am building one right now. But most of the high performance bikes out there are probably more capable than the riders that are on them. Some times it's fun to ride a bike that is slightly under powered and doesn't handle like a GP bike, then you can really feel like you are pushing it and the limitation is more the bike than you. It's a different mental feeling. I'm not saying I push my 919, it pushes me, but I've ridden bikes like I am talking about.

Oh, and I started with the money is no object mantra on my 919, then ran out of money Sometime people don't want to be "practical" with their bikes.
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I am all about the 1 off bikes. Performance is great and don't get me wrong I want a sport bike as well. In fact, I am building one right now. But most of the high performance bikes out there are probably more capable than the riders that are on them. Some times it's fun to ride a bike that is slightly under powered and doesn't handle like a GP bike, then you can really feel like you are pushing it and the limitation is more the bike than you. It's a different mental feeling. I'm not saying I push my 919, it pushes me, but I've ridden bikes like I am talking about.

Oh, and I started with the money is no object mantra on my 919, then ran out of money Sometime people don't want to be "practical" with their bikes.
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I understand the point of customizing your ride. But, I'm missing the point on the 919. Isn't the concept of the 919 to get a good all-around bike at a good all-around value? Certainly, you can do many things to it. But, at a no cost situation to me defeats the intentions of the 919.

Maybe I'm still the best-bang-for-the-buck type of guy.

But, when it comes to the H-D. That chrome bolt cover is worth every bit it's $100!
"Best bang-for-the-buck type of guy...!?" You have a Harley...!

The average Harley nowadays defeats all the basic intension's & concept of the motorcycle.
But people still buy,ride,& modify it.
It's an expression of personal taste, interest,sanity, uniqueness.
Like buying a $100.00 bolt cover. Will that increase gas mileage?,make more power?,make it stop faster? No....But it looks cool!

The point is to make it "Your" bike,not everyone else's. Regardless of Year,Make & Model.

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