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post #1 of 44 Old 01-29-2007, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
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Custom Triple Tree

A few weeks ago I was looking for a spare upper triple tree, which lead me to Wrist Twisters. I removed my stock handlebar and replaced it with clip-ons, thus leaving the huge empty bar clamps which didn't look good. Anyway, I was able to buy a spare piece, had a welder fill in the clamp cavities, then I cut and ground it smooth. I always wanted to do this but wasn't sure it would work, it worked and I saved $400 on a custom on a custom triple tree.

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post #2 of 44 Old 01-29-2007, 11:53 AM
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Very nice work! It looks like you shelled out the big bucks for a custom clamp, I'm impressed.

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It originally looked like this:
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A few weeks ago I was looking for a spare upper triple tree, which lead me to Wrist Twisters. I removed my stock handlebar and replaced it with clip-ons, thus leaving the huge empty bar clamps which didn't look good. Anyway, I was able to buy a spare piece, had a welder fill in the clamp cavities, then I cut and ground it smooth. I always wanted to do this but wasn't sure it would work, it worked and I saved $400 on a custom on a custom triple tree.

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Pretty sweet! Do the bars hit the tank?

P.S. I like the rim stripes as well.

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Nice piece of workmanship!

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Nope, even has about a quarter inch to spare.

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Pretty sweet! Do the bars hit the tank?

P.S. I like the rim stripes as well.

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I must say that is ingenuity at its best! Frigging sweet




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Nice work Barrosart!! str8

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Thats a cool mod, nice job

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My major concern would be the altered steering geometry. We usually raise the tubes no more than 10 mm. I'm guessing those tubes had to be bumped at least 1 and 1/2" (38 mm). Also, have you checked the wheel for interference with the forks fully compressed?

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OK so, this is a very bad photoshop (see attach pic) but wouldn't it look even nicer and cleaner if you would had left the holes (where the handlebar clamps where stamped) for a truly customized looking Triple Tree? Your idea looks ok, don't get me wrong.

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That would be cool and all, but that might effect the integrity of the piece. It would have to be made from solid billet.

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OK so, this is a very bad photoshop (see attach pic) but wouldn't it look even nicer and cleaner if you would had left the holes (where the handlebar clamps where stamped) for a truly customized looking Triple Tree? Your idea looks ok, don't get me wrong.

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Yeah it's lowered 30mm.
I've had it lowered for about a year and a half.. took it to 2 track days since, and never noticed much difference in steering.
Also, the forks rarely bottom out.

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My major concern would be the altered steering geometry. We usually raise the tubes no more than 10 mm. I'm guessing those tubes had to be bumped at least 1 and 1/2" (38 mm). Also, have you checked the wheel for interference with the forks fully compressed?

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Yeah it's lowered 30mm.
I've had it lowered for about a year and a half.. took it to 2 track days since, and never noticed much difference in steering.
Also, the forks rarely bottom out.
That's good to know.

Maybe I was not clear on the second part of my question. If the forks were completely compressed would the fender hit the radiator?

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Nice job Barrosart!

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Yeah it's lowered 30mm.
I've had it lowered for about a year and a half.. took it to 2 track days since, and never noticed much difference in steering.
Also, the forks rarely bottom out.
LOL you must ride like a girl...

Just for a test I lowered the front 10mm over stock with a 65 series tire & the front wanted to tuck like crazy, saved it twice in the first 10 minutes of street riding & was dragging hard parts in every turn. I can't even fathom what it would have been like at an actual track pace let alone with an additional 20mm removed from the ride height.


Reworked clamp looks great though.

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Great job! It looks awesome!! Have you thought about painting the lower clamp to match? A matching set might look cool.

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Oh, no problem there. If it did, I'd have some scrapes on the fender.

Just bounced on them, plenty of room.

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Sorry Duckhunter, I'm not a GP star like you.

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Don't have to be a GP star to notice the difference in handling with 30mm of ride height change on the front end of a bike... I mean good grief I know the geometry numbers on the 919 are lazy, but is anyone else this oblivious to the handling condition of their bike?

I mean you put clip-ons on your bike which generally reduces the steering leverage & makes for a more sporty ergonomics. I guess after reading this you did it solely to look cool rather than to improve the ride quality or anything of the sort right?

Anyone else drop the front end of their bike 30mm & not notice any real difference???

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Don't have to be a GP star to notice the difference in handling with 30mm of ride height change on the front end of a bike... I mean good grief I know the geometry numbers on the 919 are lazy, but is anyone else this oblivious to the handling condition of their bike?

I mean you put clip-ons on your bike which generally reduces the steering leverage & makes for a more sporty ergonomics. I guess after reading this you did it solely to look cool rather than to improve the ride quality or anything of the sort right?

Anyone else drop the front end of their bike 30mm & not notice any real difference???

I agree that 30mm seems like a lot, but dude you should click here.

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LOL Life is short & I don't have time to candycoat everything that needs to be said... Especially when it comes to semi-important things that could seriously endanger others. I've tested the 919 with various ride height configurations & granted at the speeds most streetriders pussyfoot around on them (even many of the riders that think they are fast) you might never have a problem, but get some newbie that doesn't know any better & tries to go ricky racer'in through the canyons with his front end dropped 30mm & it isn't too unfeasible to think he might end up washing out the front end with relative ease. Either way ANYONE that can make a 30mm change to either end of his motorcycle & claim it makes no real difference in the handling is not someone I want to be taking advice from

For what it is worth I think that bike looks great!

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Lets add to that mix a out of control tank slapper. If you only soil your skivvies consider yourself lucky. That is why on my web page I recommend a max. of 10 mm with a 70 profile front tire.

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I agree that 30mm seems like a lot, but dude you should click here.
hmmm Nick is it? When they were offering TACT, LDH was already arguing with the guy... don't sweat it, he means well, you just got to rub some of that "I don't give a shiot" lotion and you'll be ok

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I don't actually care. LDH just cracks me up. Reminds me of a grumpy old man.

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Barrosart, I think it looks great, and if it handles well for you, so be it and good for you.

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I don't actually care. LDH just cracks me up. Reminds me of a grumpy old man.
Now that was some funny sheit!

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I don't actually care. LDH just cracks me up. Reminds me of a grumpy old man.
yeah, like one of these guys!


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LOL those two guys were my favorite part of the show!

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OK I'll put it back up this weekend. I do respect the duck hunter's opinion.
It does tend to dip in rather quick, I just thought that was normal.

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By the way, I am in no way giving out ANY advice, I'm just making modifying my own bike.

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Barrosart, I think it looks great, and if it handles well for you, so be it and good for you.
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Find some longer forks. Gotta be something that will work?

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Ohlins makes some 43mm forks, wonder if they are longer? That would be pretty trick, if you had the dough.

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Use the F4i forks, or just raise your forks back up and use the clip-ons with risers; they clip on under the clamp but are raised to the level where you have them now - there are plenty of options in that area... cheaper than longer forks too!

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Note that if you put the clipons on under the triple they will most likely hit the tank unless you modify the steering stops. I tried it once (with woodcraft clipons) and the only way I could get them not to hit was to put the bars way out so they were almost straight. I did like the feel though.

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The manager at the local Honda dealer is building a project 599 and is using the F41 forks with the Scary Fast R Bar mounted on top of the triple (the forks are plenty long). It's a pretty sweet setup, the bars can be adjusted up, down, forward, back, in, out... like having a few hundred different handlebar bends available at the twist of a wrench.

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I gotta hand it to LDH, I put the forks back up to stock and notice a total difference, no more nervousness in the front-end. I guess I didn't notice how bad it was until I was able to compare it.

Also the Harris clipons I use have a slight rise to them so the don't hit the tank.
Thanks for the tips guys.

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Cheers brother! Now that you are aware of the handling differences it will be something you continue to strive to make better.

My goal in all of the crap I post on the forums & my websites etc is just to make sure people get the most out of their sportbike ownership. What they actually do with their money or bike etc is totally up to the individual, but I want everyone to be capable of making informed decisions based on knowledge regardless of what they actually do with it.

On a tangent: It's usually an eye opening experience for most riders to get their bike actually set-up properly where it stays leaned over without pressure on the bars, doesn't try to stand up on the brakes & holds a line on exit. The first time it all comes together for them & they see how a bike is really supposed to handle they generally stop thinking about painting the letters on their tires, polishing the wheels on their bike or adding anodized foot pegs etc & start concentrating on making actual improvements to the bike & their riding ability. The gratification you can get from skillfully riding & trying to master the bike is far more than can be obtained from socializing with it.

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