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2007 919, how is the wheel spacer in the bearing in the cush drive. is it pressed in the bearing or is it part of the bearing?

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The spacers are not pressed, they just slip in when you are putting the wheel back on.

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The spacers are not pressed, they just slip in when you are putting the wheel back on.
And fall out while you are putting the axle back in.

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If you're talking about the collar that's in the bearing in the sprocket carrier then it's pressed in, it comes out pretty easy with a few light taps from a hammer and drift punch


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And fall out while you are putting the axle back in.
On both sides! :gah:

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On both sides! :gah:
Yep, can be very aggravating! Seems to be 10X easier if I move the chain adjusters all the way forward.

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Yep, can be very aggravating! Seems to be 10X easier if I move the chain adjusters all the way forward.
I'll have to try that next time. Sometimes I have no problem and other times I want to go ape shit and tip my bike over.

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Yes the one in sprocket carrier, wasnt sure how it was in there. thanks

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I'll have to try that next time. Sometimes I have no problem and other times I want to go ape shit and tip my bike over.
This sounds terrible, glad I don't have to deal with it

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This sounds terrible, glad I don't have to deal with it
Your wife does all your bike maintenance though.

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Your wife does all your bike maintenance though.
Well yeah! My wife works on ALL my toys

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Well yeah! My wife works on ALL my toys
Keeps you from playing with 'em

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Keeps you from playing with 'em
I don't have to mess with them, she keeps things well maintained

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I don't have to mess with them, she keeps things well maintained
Shouldn't take too long with a 2 stroke unless she needs a top end re-build.

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Shouldn't take too long with a 2 stroke unless she needs a top end re-build.
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Shouldn't take too long with a 2 stroke unless she needs a top end re-build.
2 stroke? You know Buells are big Vtwins with a long stroke

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2 stroke? You know Buells are big Vtwins with a long stroke
Yes but mount failures are well documented due to sagging isolators.

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Yes but mount failures are well documented due to sagging isolators.
No the mount failures are do to the massive torque load it's pumping out

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No the mount failures are do to the massive torque load it's pumping out
Just be careful not to queef a seal

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I don't mean to hijack the thread, but it's somewhat related.. I just had my wheels powder coated and I'm going back on with the rear wheel. There's two spacers- one thats identical on both ends, and one with a wider face. Can anyone tell me which spacer goes on which side ? I had them next to each-other one to the left and the one on the right, and my doggie ran out the house like a friggin retard and I just wanna make sure to get it right. Does the spacer with the larger face go on the brake side or the chain side ??

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Large face goes brake side straight pipe like goes chain side

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Awesome. Thank you for that. I actually took an educated guess and looks like I was correct. I learned the hard way about the front spacers. Well, kinda not. I had em in correct when I took my wheels to Armadillo cycles to get em balanced. The tech that did the work put them back in wrong, and when I mounted the front wheel and tightened everything the damn thing wouldn't spin. Upon inspection I noticed that he switched em and the fresh powder got f'd up when the bottom of the fork gouged into the wheel hub area. Fml. Can't have anything nice these days. People wanna shit all over it. I guess the blames on me since I didn't triple check. So for those of you wondering- the front wheel spacers can go in wrong, and you'll know immediately cuz the front wheel won't spin. Don't know what kind of effect putting the rear ones in wrong will have- I'm not gonna try it lol.

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The service manual shows the opposite. Large face on the chain side. That's the way it is on my bike.
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The service manual shows the opposite. Large face on the chain side. That's the way it is on my bike.
That's what I was thinking! I even brought the service manual to work tonight to double check. It came off the bike that way so I put it back on the bike that way.

Pro-tip: When taking things off the bike place them in the same orientation that way you don't mess up putting things back on. But if they were wrong the first time around then they are always going to be wrong.

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Can anyone else chime in about this ? I wonder if it throws the chain off ? I don't think it's possible it would be different from year to year..even though it seems fine the way it was, I'll install em the way it's showed in the service book. Thanks for that pic, now I'll have to get one from eBay.

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Awesome. Thank you for that. I actually took an educated guess and looks like I was correct. I learned the hard way about the front spacers. Well, kinda not. I had em in correct when I took my wheels to Armadillo cycles to get em balanced. The tech that did the work put them back in wrong, and when I mounted the front wheel and tightened everything the damn thing wouldn't spin. Upon inspection I noticed that he switched em and the fresh powder got f'd up when the bottom of the fork gouged into the wheel hub area. Fml. Can't have anything nice these days. People wanna shit all over it. I guess the blames on me since I didn't triple check. So for those of you wondering- the front wheel spacers can go in wrong, and you'll know immediately cuz the front wheel won't spin. Don't know what kind of effect putting the rear ones in wrong will have- I'm not gonna try it lol.
I did the same thing with my fronts once and smushed the hub of the wheel a bit when I started to torque everything down...

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As far as I know my rear spacers have been on the "wrong" sides for going on 30k with no ill effects. I'm anal about keeping tract of how things come apart/go together not saying the po didn't switch them, but pretty sure I didn't. I could show you mistakes in process books where I work. The problem is most likely the guy taking the picture is a pencil pushing desk jockey who's never assembled anything. Just my .02

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"Hey Mack! Quit writing tech manuals and come take a picture of the rear wheel for us."

"Okay Bill, hold your horses I'm coming"

"Alright, we are taking pictures of the orientation of the rear wheel hub spacers. Now listen I got to go get the camera, DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING! We don't want to fuck up like last time. You got it?"

"Jeeze, that was one time Bill and I learned my lesson."

Bill exits the room. Mack starts to lazy wonder the room and happens to glance at the wheel."Well, that can't be right" he thinks. He may not be a full blown ME yet but by golly he just KNOWS the techs in the back switch up those spacers. The one with the flat face should not be on the final drive side, it should be on the brake side! "Dumbasses".


Cautiously looking around the room, Mack switched them. "There," he thought "all better and now all the mechanics will thank me."

Bill walks in the room noticing a smug look on Mack's face. "You didn't touch anything did you?"
"Nope, and can we get to taking the photos? I do have more work and can't just stand around all day like you. I'm only an intern and can't afford to be lazy" replied Mack with a wink. While still suspicious Bill gave in and started to take the pictures.

Years later, on Internet forums a Great War would start on how the pictures in the maintenance manuals are wrong and that everyone except a few know in their minds that the photos really show the spacers reversed. You were either a Mackavillian or a Billhovian and there was no in between.

But the great debate rages on to this day, is the manual right or is it wrong?



I've found tech manuals wrong in my work center too. You write the company and tell them and they send out a revised manual. Seeing how my manual is for the '07 model with added pages to compensate for all the changes made between the models I'm going to trust the picture in the book on this one. 2002 to 2007 is a long time for a small error like that to go unnoticed and unchanged. But if you still feel it is wrong write to Honda and ask/tell them.

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"Hey Mack! Quit writing tech manuals and come take a picture of the rear wheel for us."

"Okay Bill, hold your horses I'm coming"

"Alright, we are taking pictures of the orientation of the rear wheel hub spacers. Now listen I got to go get the camera, DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING! We don't want to fuck up like last time. You got it?"

"Jeeze, that was one time Bill and I learned my lesson."

Bill exits the room. Mack starts to lazy wonder the room and happens to glance at the wheel."Well, that can't be right" he thinks. He may not be a full blown ME yet but by golly he just KNOWS the techs in the back switch up those spacers. The one with the flat face should not be on the final drive side, it should be on the brake side! "Dumbasses".

Cautiously looking around the room, Mack switched them. "There," he thought "all better and now all the mechanics will thank me."

Bill walks in the room noticing a smug look on Mack's face. "You didn't touch anything did you?"
"Nope, and can we get to taking the photos? I do have more work and can't just stand around all day like you. I'm only an intern and can't afford to be lazy" replied Mack with a wink. While still suspicious Bill gave in and started to take the pictures.

Years later, on Internet forums a Great War would start on how the pictures in the maintenance manuals are wrong and that everyone except a few know in their minds that the photos really show the spacers reversed. You were either a Mackavillian or a Billhovian and there was no in between.

But the great debate rages on to this day, is the manual right or is it wrong?

I've found tech manuals wrong in my work center too. You write the company and tell them and they send out a revised manual. Seeing how my manual is for the '07 model with added pages to compensate for all the changes made between the models I'm going to trust the picture in the book on this one. 2002 to 2007 is a long time for a small error like that to go unnoticed and unchanged. But if you still feel it is wrong write to Honda and ask/tell them.
I checked the parts fiche too and it shows it the same way. Damn that Mack! I can't swear that I never crossed mine up, but the flanged side in on the sprocket side. Maybe we need poll or someone who got one of the near zero mile 9ers, check and see.
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Flanged spacer has always been on the left (sprocket) side on mine, brake carrier has the flange built into it on the right side


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"Hey Mack! Quit writing tech manuals and come take a picture of the rear wheel for us." "Okay Bill, hold your horses I'm coming" "Alright, we are taking pictures of the orientation of the rear wheel hub spacers. Now listen I got to go get the camera, DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING! We don't want to fuck up like last time. You got it?" "Jeeze, that was one time Bill and I learned my lesson." Bill exits the room. Mack starts to lazy wonder the room and happens to glance at the wheel."Well, that can't be right" he thinks. He may not be a full blown ME yet but by golly he just KNOWS the techs in the back switch up those spacers. The one with the flat face should not be on the final drive side, it should be on the brake side! "Dumbasses". Cautiously looking around the room, Mack switched them. "There," he thought "all better and now all the mechanics will thank me." Bill walks in the room noticing a smug look on Mack's face. "You didn't touch anything did you?" "Nope, and can we get to taking the photos? I do have more work and can't just stand around all day like you. I'm only an intern and can't afford to be lazy" replied Mack with a wink. While still suspicious Bill gave in and started to take the pictures. Years later, on Internet forums a Great War would start on how the pictures in the maintenance manuals are wrong and that everyone except a few know in their minds that the photos really show the spacers reversed. You were either a Mackavillian or a Billhovian and there was no in between. But the great debate rages on to this day, is the manual right or is it wrong? I've found tech manuals wrong in my work center too. You write the company and tell them and they send out a revised manual. Seeing how my manual is for the '07 model with added pages to compensate for all the changes made between the models I'm going to trust the picture in the book on this one. 2002 to 2007 is a long time for a small error like that to go unnoticed and unchanged. But if you still feel it is wrong write to Honda and ask/tell them.
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Hopefully mcromo44 will weigh in here about how is spacers are. His bike is like new because he never rides it. :P
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Flanged spacer has always been on the left (sprocket) side on mine, brake carrier has the flange built into it on the right side
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