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So, a few weeks ago someone backed into my bike. No biggie, she paid for a new fender, and I went ahead and bought a Coerce CF unit. It just arrived yesterday, and I went to install today, to find much to my dismay...




It doesn't fit, it doesn't line up with the bolt holes, and it rubs the tyre. And it generally looks like garbage. Now, for what I had to pay to get this, I would have expected better quality. Is this typical for Coerce, or did I just get the one screwy one?



(By the way... when she hit the bike, it pushed it back almost 2 feet on the kickstand. Dug into the concrete pretty good. Turned the fender into shrapnel, though... )

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My sister-in-law backed into her husbands bike and busted his front end up pretty bad. Let us know what you find from this company because he is wanting to replace it with carbon fiber. She pushed his bike almost 6 feet, it didn't ever fall over, but did bend the kickstand forward so badly that he has to park it with a 2x4 under the stand.

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My sister-in-law backed into her husbands bike and busted his front end up pretty bad. Let us know what you find from this company because he is wanting to replace it with carbon fiber. She pushed his bike almost 6 feet, it didn't ever fall over, but did bend the kickstand forward so badly that he has to park it with a 2x4 under the stand.
Ouch! I feel for him. I've never layed my 919 down, but my dad knocked it over twice(Brake lever, bar end, handlebar, and clutch cover both times!) and now it just got backed into. Getting sick of other people messing my bike up for me!

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hey Husky...



I thought I was the only 9er in the big O.
Sorry to hear about the mishap & crappy fitment.

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Looks like they use a very brittle Resin from what looks like spiderweb cracks and if the holes are not lined up perfect you will be twisting the piece not allowing it to sit straight. As with a lot of parts like this you may need open one of the mounting holes a little. From the way it's twisted I'd say the hole on the right side needs to be bigger (slotted upward) to allow the piece to relax.

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Looks like they use a very brittle Resin from what looks like spiderweb cracks and if the holes are not lined up perfect you will be twisting the piece not allowing it to sit straight. As with a lot of parts like this you may need open one of the mounting holes a little. From the way it's twisted I'd say the hole on the right side needs to be bigger (slotted upward) to allow the piece to relax.
Just curious... would you do that with a small rat-tail jewlers file or something? I've never worked in CF, but I'd like to know in case something like this happens to me... Rather fix it if it's something small like that than have to send it back - extra shipping costs - plus missing riding time because the fender is missing... or would you just say get a refund?

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I have an ART CF front fender, had to do a minor bit of enlarging of the bolt holes but other than that it fit perfectly. I'd not mess with it and get a refund.

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Just curious... would you do that with a small rat-tail jewlers file or something? I've never worked in CF, but I'd like to know in case something like this happens to me... Rather fix it if it's something small like that than have to send it back - extra shipping costs - plus missing riding time because the fender is missing... or would you just say get a refund?
I'd use a Dremel. CF is easier to work with than most people think because most bits, files and grinders used for metal work will do the job.

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I'd use a Dremel. CF is easier to work with than most people think because most bits, files and grinders used for metal work will do the job.
ripper have you considered making front fenders and maybe even rear huggers out of carbon fiber? maybe to compliment the windscreen?



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I have the same front fender. When I installed mine it looked just like yours. I had to use felt spacers underneath and against the lower fork tubes to square it. Loosen the bolts a lot and space to square. I was disapointed also but got it to look ok. hope this helps.

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I had the CF Corece front fender when I had the 919 standard forks. And, I had the same problem as you and ilovheros. I corrected the problem similar to ilovheros, but I used rubber weather stripping underneath the flares (the ones over forks) to align the fender. No big deal, but it would've been nice to simply bolt up and be done. And don't forget to use rubber grommets or washers at the mounting points to prevent cracking.


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The reason you are needing to use spacers is the fenders were made by a simple overlay. the part is bigger and when you tighten it down it is warping, I would have thought the holes were in the wrong location but a larger piece will do the same thing. Rather than making a mold of the piece they are just laying it over the stock piece to make the CF unit. Nothing wrong with that but the end result is a larger than stock piece.

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The reason you are needing to use spacers is the fenders were made by a simple overlay Nothing wrong with that but the end result is a larger than stock piece.
Judging by the pics, I would say there is something a little wrong with that method. If it were me making a piece once, then no biggie. A commercial setup where the idea is to manufacture a piece for consumers, however needs to do it right. Make a mold, keep headaches to a minimum. For the price of CF, it had better work pretty painlessly.

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I thought I was the only 9er in the big O.
Sorry to hear about the mishap & crappy fitment.

Wooo! I was starting to think the same! You almost were, lol. I had an offer for a straight across trade on my 919 for an RC51... Much as I love the niner, I love RVTs more! Anyways, obviously it didn't work out.

So, you still riding? Or did you pack it in for the season? I'm gonna go for a quickie later tonight(sans front fender -.-). Hit me up if you wanna go.

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Haven't completely given up yet. Busy tonight though.
PM me if you wanna get out Sunday evening

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Judging by the pics, I would say there is something a little wrong with that method. If it were me making a piece once, then no biggie. A commercial setup where the idea is to manufacture a piece for consumers, however needs to do it right. Make a mold, keep headaches to a minimum. For the price of CF, it had better work pretty painlessly.

There is nothing wrong with an over lay process. Buy like I stated, you end up with a larger piece! to do an over lay the right way you need to mold the inside of the piece first so you end up smaller than stock piece and then make your parts off that. Your parts end up same as stock! Some parts are not going to be affected by over lay, such as my windscreen. You would never know they are just a hair larger. I suppose I could go the other side and have it smaller, but with a piece like the screen you still wouldn't be able to tell a difference.

I'm not defending them or there workmanship, I'm stating that there are several ways to work with CF. Depending on the price point you are shooting for and whether or not it will be structural part will determine the process you use!

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My sister-in-law backed into her husbands bike and busted his front end up pretty bad. Let us know what you find from this company because he is wanting to replace it with carbon fiber. She pushed his bike almost 6 feet, it didn't ever fall over, but did bend the kickstand forward so badly that he has to park it with a 2x4 under the stand.
I owned a 1990 Ninja ZX-10 and had it on its centerstand in our garage. My wife was driving our new 1990 Taraus SHO and as she was backing into the garage, she made contact with my bike and slid it from one end of the garage to the other end. I was in the shower at the opposite end of our house and heard this terrible sound. I turn off the water, grab a towel and bolt to the door. My wife meets me in the kitchen screaming, "You stupid Son-of-B#^t$h!!!" I go past her to check the damage. There was just a small scratch on the fender and the bumper of the SHO. The sound was like King Kong running his fingernails down a 50 ft. chaulk board and she said she never heard it. I now keep my bikes in another garage that she doesn't go in. Thanks, JD

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Haven't completely given up yet. Busy tonight though.
PM me if you wanna get out Sunday evening

Didya see this: http://omaha.craigslist.org/mcy/917880014.html
Gorgeous. And I might have gotten 5500 for my bike when I bought it(only had about 3K miles) but no way I'd come close now. I bought it in June(July?) and since then, I've put over 8000 miles on it, including a ride from Omaha to Chicago and back.

And sounds excellent, looks like it's gonna be in the fifties and sunny, looking forward to it!

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I owned a 1990 Ninja ZX-10 and had it on its centerstand in our garage. My wife was driving our new 1990 Taraus SHO and as she was backing into the garage, she made contact with my bike and slid it from one end of the garage to the other end. I was in the shower at the opposite end of our house and heard this terrible sound. I turn off the water, grab a towel and bolt to the door. My wife meets me in the kitchen screaming, "You stupid Son-of-B#^t$h!!!" I go past her to check the damage. There was just a small scratch on the fender and the bumper of the SHO. The sound was like King Kong running his fingernails down a 50 ft. chaulk board and she said she never heard it. I now keep my bikes in another garage that she doesn't go in. Thanks, JD
i know its illegal to hit them..... but wouldnt that be a shaking offense????

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There is nothing wrong with an over lay process. Buy like I stated, you end up with a larger piece! to do an over lay the right way you need to mold the inside of the piece first so you end up smaller than stock piece and then make your parts off that. Your parts end up same as stock! Some parts are not going to be affected by over lay, such as my windscreen. You would never know they are just a hair larger. I suppose I could go the other side and have it smaller, but with a piece like the screen you still wouldn't be able to tell a difference.

I'm not defending them or there workmanship, I'm stating that there are several ways to work with CF. Depending on the price point you are shooting for and whether or not it will be structural part will determine the process you use!
I didn't mean to imply that using an overlay process was bad in and of itself. If the manufacturer had taken a mold of the original and laid the carbon down into the negative they created, the piece would probably have fit a lot better. It sounds to me like they overlaid the original, said "that's good enough" and ran with it. If they had done as you described, I bet more people would be satisfied with their pieces. At the very least it would be easier to install, and less worrisome to the consumer. Any chance that you're going to start copying body pieces in CF too? (Since you know how to make them correctly!)

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I too had the same issue with the Coerse CF front fender and it was also remedied by opening up the holes, aligning the fender and tightening up the screws.

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Many a time I have given serious thought to the thought of a "Bitch Slap" of a female who deserved one but never have. You know, all that "don't ever hit a girl" stuff while growing up by the folks has keep me from actually doing it- Beside, I don't own any white, wife beater, tank tops!!!


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Many a time I have given serious thought to the thought of a "Bitch Slap" of a female who deserved one but never have. You know, all that "don't ever hit a girl" stuff while growing up by the folks has keep me from actually doing it- Beside, I don't own any white, wife beater, tank tops!!!
Hey man gimmie your address and I'll mail you one. Then you can be rappin women in da head.

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Many a time I have given serious thought to the thought of a "Bitch Slap" of a female who deserved one but never have. You know, all that "don't ever hit a girl" stuff while growing up by the folks has keep me from actually doing it- Beside, I don't own any white, wife beater, tank tops!!!
50$ says this poor slub don't beat his wife.....





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50$ says this poor slub don't beat his wife.....

Barton that image is quiet common around here. There is a military base connected to my town. All of the guys go off to War and make money while the wives sit at home watch the kids and get fat.

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Haven't completely given up yet. Busy tonight though.
PM me if you wanna get out Sunday evening
I think this weekend will be my last one before I put mine to rest for the winter.
Looks like maybe around 50. Either of you guys up for a little time away from home?

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Barton that image is quiet common around here. There is a military base connected to my town. All of the guys go off to War and make money while the wives sit at home watch the kids and get fat.




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I still say that's a dude on the left. His hairline is further receded than mine. And mine's going fast.

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I still say that's a dude on the left.
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That was my first reaction when I saw the pic. Yes, looks a bit man-ish

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I still say that's a dude on the left. His hairline is further receded than mine. And mine's going fast.
Her hairline is fine. I think her face just outgrew it.


If there hadn't been similar complaints in this thread about the fender my next next thought was the front forks are bent. They aren't right?

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Her hairline is fine. I think her face just outgrew it.


If there hadn't been similar complaints in this thread about the fender my next next thought was the front forks are bent. They aren't right?
sometimes when i look at my handlebars in relation to my forks they look slightly skewed........... i think i am gonna have a professional check the alignment..



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fork realignment
pushed yer bike how far? on the stand
fork realignment
tightened down a misaligned front fender?
forks binding
loosen everything
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in that order.
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Any chance you could PM me you psych's phone number so I could consult with him about your meds.

Or, is business that slow???

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Any chance you could PM me you psych's phone number so I could consult with him about your meds.

Or, is business that slow???
i walked out of there 2 weeks ago in protest.. i am actually doing my own little business cleaning the hulls of boats while they are in the water..... which in a nutshell means i scuba down and scrape barnacles off of boats... so if you know anyone down here with boats have them call me i need some more customers...

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