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post #1 of 22 Old 10-02-2007, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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Can't get it up...

The front that is... I have owned my 9'er for about a year now and have grown comfortable enough with my familiarity of the limits of the bike so I wanna try to get the front end up. I've played a lot with the upper end of the tach but never let 'er sing in 1st in fear of flipping my self over. Since my abilities grew, I decided to give the roll-on power wheelie a shot...Nothing. I thought to myself, surely it's got plenty of power; it's almost a literbike. Then it donned on me; I'm a heavy mutherfocker, about 240-250lbs. That must be it right?

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Ok dont let anyone know i told ya but.. change sprockets from 16 -43 to 15- 44 and when in first gear easy up to 3 g's then give it a punch and you will be up with noprob at all.. thing is this kind of thing can change your life from happy to real sad in a few seconds.. stick to the roll on's dont be tempted to shift into 2nd unless your a great rider.. and make damn sure you arnt crossed up when that front comes down.... because the 919 will tank slap like its on crack.......just my thoughts.....




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I like the stock gearing...I guess I'll just have to loose weight!

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The front that is... I have owned my 9'er for about a year now and have grown comfortable enough with my familiarity of the limits of the bike so I wanna try to get the front end up. I've played a lot with the upper end of the tach but never let 'er sing in 1st in fear of flipping my self over. Since my abilities grew, I decided to give the roll-on power wheelie a shot...Nothing. I thought to myself, surely it's got plenty of power; it's almost a literbike. Then it donned on me; I'm a heavy mutherfocker, about 240-250lbs. That must be it right?
Your weight can help. Move it back! If you are below 4400 ft altitude even the stock gearing is perfectly capable of complete 12 o'clock wheelies. At about 30 - 35 MPH.. close throttle and immediately smack it open. Give a gentle tug back on bars and sit up and back a bit. Front wheel is up! Cover rear brake, don't get dead or busted! Time it all together right and it's easy. Want real fun?, go to 15/45 sprockets and roll-on wheelies get real easy.. even if you are 250+ and at 4400 ft elevation.

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surely it's got plenty of power; it's almost a literbike.

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The front wheel can be pulled up on almost anything. Motocycho already said it. You want to freak someone out, lift the front wheel of a H-D Springer. bahahahaha!

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I've been getting my Yamaha Vino 50 up on one lately.

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I unicycled a stock ninja 250 once. I think you can wheelie your 919. Sit back in the seat more. Take it slow. Do it in a deserted parking lot.

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and wear a life alert button...

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The front that is... I have owned my 9'er for about a year now and have grown comfortable enough with my familiarity of the limits of the bike so I wanna try to get the front end up. I've played a lot with the upper end of the tach but never let 'er sing in 1st in fear of flipping my self over. Since my abilities grew, I decided to give the roll-on power wheelie a shot...Nothing. I thought to myself, surely it's got plenty of power; it's almost a literbike. Then it donned on me; I'm a heavy mutherfocker, about 240-250lbs. That must be it right?

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Here's an alternative. Get going to about 100mph in 3rd gear. Then stand on the front brake and ride out a long a$$ stoppie. Right when your a$$ end is starting to fall (assuming that you've already kicked it down to 1st gear), pin the throttle, sit back, and dump the clutch when the rear wheel touches down. This will bring up the front end and give you great cool cred with your homies!

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I've wheelied the 919 comeing hard out of a corner.. and I weigh 260 currently and was probably a few pounds heavier.. the bike can do the job.. take you time and figure it out..

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I currently put on the 15-45 gearing, but I could still power it up with the 17-43.

All you have to do is:
1) sit as far back as you can (on the front seat)
2) get going about 15mph
3) just give it a quick throttle twist, and if it doesn't come up then let it lurch forward and try again a little faster
4) it won't come up in the higher RPM's

I'm working on clutching it up going 50+ in second. First gear power ups are easy. Just keep trying and don't get too technical, you gotta "Use the Force Luke."

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Make certain to have a camcorder handy when practicing the wheelies.

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Rarely do I loft the front wheel in a straight line, but it happens quite often when quickly transitioning in the short chute between opposite corners despite being far forward on the saddle, in 3rd or 4th gear, and only turning 5500ish. It was a bit disconcerting at first especially when the front wheel touches down just before the next apex, but I'm used to it now and know to tap off slightly to keep the front tire near asphaltum firma. While wheelies can be fun if you know what you're doing, the only useful function they serve is to oops over an object that suddenly appears in your path that would put you on your head if the front tire hit it. In that case, hard on the brake, downshifting once, then grabbing a fistful while clutching to control the height usually does it. Just remember your rear tire will run over what the front missed, so be prepared for it. Once you get good at this you'll be able to touch the front down just past it, then do a quick stoppie to clear the rear: I've seen an RD400 get completely airborne to avoid a 4 by 8 foot piece of plywood sliding across the freeway! Her advantage is she was a very experienced trials rider and knew the moves.

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post #17 of 22 Old 10-03-2007, 04:03 PM
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no matter how experienced you get with wheelies, if you try hard enough you will be soon, remember that you will lose control of one every now and then... just happens sometimes. So please don't do this on public roads.

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I would suggest 2nd gear standups to learn with rather than grabbing a handful in 1st. If you get going about 40mph in 2nd, preload the forks by hopping downward on the bike. As the forks rebound grab a lot of throttle all while covering the rear brake. This process is less violent than a fist full in
1st. The best thing you can do is learn on a small dirtbike. I mastered the art of rear brake shananagins on my honda 50. It will save your but.

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Put Viagra in the gas tank.

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Sportrider How to Wheelie Video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66&q=superbike

+1 on what Hondastreetfght said: on-off-on hard quick
my friend picks up his front end effortlessly using this method every time

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...and some WD-40 on the chain...if your suspension is stiff for longer than 4 hours consult your doctor...

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My new pipe makes me want to do bad things so I went out last night & beat it like a redhaired stepchild. After each stop sign I doublewhacked the throttle and up she comes each time, no problem. With this motor it's very controllable (wheelies on the Turbo are often quite violent) and you can ride right through it until it comes down on its own.

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