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Bought a 599 headlight...

and this came with it.

Italian Honda. Says Ducati on the rectifier, under the seat. Isn't that funny?

IMHO, these bikes need a jet kit real bad. Fuel injection has me spoiled. After the can and jet kit, it runs great, very happy. I did brake likes and a Renthal bar. MIVV= loud.

Cool little bike. Handles great. Stops and goes good. Fun little 600 top end rush. Real comfy, but a little buzz in the upper rpms where it likes to be.

Geared too low for me. I'm going down 1 tooth on the rear sprocket to a 41, if that doesn't do it, I'm going to going down to a 39. No one makes a 40, which is what I want.
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post #2 of 33 Old 09-07-2010, 09:49 AM
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I've been silently waiting to see the pics. Looks good. Jets go in bottom or top? Top?

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Jets in bottom, needles and springs in top, plugs in the intake side.

Time consuming. Not real difficult. Working on carbs is sort of like working on a gun. Lots of small pins and screws, some springs. You get all the smog crap back where it belongs.

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That's a neat "little" bike! Is that USD forks? Any side on and full frontal pics?

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A bike, A jet and HondaJim's buddy.

I have bar ends on the way, as well as a 1 tooth smaller rear sprocket. The bike is geared so short, with the jet kit, it'll easily pull the taller gearing.

I have clear lens KTM arrowhead looking, turn signals for the front, but right now, I'm tired of working on the thing and they'll go on this winter. Mirrors are KTM.

The bike weighed in at 405 lbs with a gallon of fuel left. Supposidly, theoretically, makes 90 hp in present state of tune. It has that 600 top end rush. It doesn't feel de-tuned like a 919 does.
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Just for the record that ain't my buddy. I hope it's his dad I killed a few years back.


Rod, we need to get that machine and my F3 together for some, uh, acceleration up to 65 tests.

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I've had 2 real close encounters in the last 3 weeks. HJ, where we split up the other Sat, I bonked one on the head with the barend on the SDuke. Saw him spinning on the road in the rearview. Went back, and ppttttt, he was gone. (little Hee Haw humor there)

That pic was taken out of my basement door.

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Supposidly, theoretically, makes 90 hp in present state of tune.
Really? isn't that about what the 9er makes? I know the 9er makes more tq but I didn't think the 599 put out 90hp, that must be fuuuun.

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I've had 2 real close encounters in the last 3 weeks. HJ, where we split up the other Sat, I bonked one on the head with the barend on the SDuke. Saw him spinning on the road in the rearview. Went back, and ppttttt, he was gone. (little Hee Haw humor there)

That pic was taken out of my basement door.
That really is a neat "little" bike, nice clean lines.

What kind of bird is that?

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That really is a neat "little" bike, nice clean lines.

What kind of bird is that?
Flying Ratbird.

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turkey vulture?

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turkey vulture?
Bingo. I had an encounter with one a few years back. There's a thread about it somehwere here. Let's just say HJ=1, TV = 0. It hurt though.

That's a small one in comparison to what I took out.

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*bangs hands on table and kicks like a school child having temper tantrum* WTF the 599 comes with usd forks and the 919 doesnt *humph*

and yup the lil 599 (at least the carborated 98-06 versions) all made right around 90ish hp but 45 ftlbs ... the 07+ 599 with its new motor (bigger bore shorter stroke) makes 102hp and 45ftlbs.

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*bangs hands on table and kicks like a school child having temper tantrum* WTF the 599 comes with usd forks and the 919 doesnt *humph*

and yup the lil 599 (at least the carborated 98-06 versions) all made right around 90ish hp but 45 ftlbs ... the 07+ 599 with its new motor (bigger bore shorter stroke) makes 102hp and 45ftlbs.
Will that front end fit on the 919, just as a matter of interest?

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Will that front end fit on the 919, just as a matter of interest?
no it won't. You wouldn't want in anyway. Put it this way, Honda gave 599 USD forks just to list in their spec" USD forks", commercial move

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Nice looking bike Rod.

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A bike, A jet and HondaJim's buddy.

I have bar ends on the way, as well as a 1 tooth smaller rear sprocket. The bike is geared so short, with the jet kit, it'll easily pull the taller gearing.

I have clear lens KTM arrowhead looking, turn signals for the front, but right now, I'm tired of working on the thing and they'll go on this winter. Mirrors are KTM.

The bike weighed in at 405 lbs with a gallon of fuel left. Supposidly, theoretically, makes 90 hp in present state of tune. It has that 600 top end rush. It doesn't feel de-tuned like a 919 does.

Not de-tuned.....................tuned for torque.

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Not de-tuned.....................tuned for torque.
pretty much! i wouldnt trade the low end torque of the 919 for anything!

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I almost hate to say it, but the suspention is pretty decent. I'll probably leave it alone.

Yeah, I know it's been de-tuned. As I said, it doesn't FEEL de-tuned. I had a 929 before the 919. After riding the 929 for a couple of years, the 919 definatly felt de-tuned. Someone correct me if I wrong, the 919, with a free flowing exhaust, puts out aprox 106 hp.

The buzz was perched outside my walk out basement door.

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The buzz was perched outside my walk out basement door.
He's onto me.

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I almost hate to say it, but the suspention is pretty decent. I'll probably leave it alone.

Yeah, I know it's been de-tuned. As I said, it doesn't FEEL de-tuned. I had a 929 before the 919. After riding the 929 for a couple of years, the 919 definatly felt de-tuned. Someone correct me if I wrong, the 919, with a free flowing exhaust, puts out aprox 106 hp.

The buzz was perched outside my walk out basement door.
oh yes... the 919 has definitely been detuned some but more retuned for torque... 70ftlbs out of the 919 is just shy of what the bmw sr1000 is making after a full exhaust and tuning

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70 at the rear wheel sounds a bit optomistic. Probably closer to 65.

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70 at the rear wheel sounds a bit optomistic. Probably closer to 65.
eh tru.. ur probably right... 65ish at the rear wheel is more real... but still.

Regardless that 599 is a pretty sweet lil bike you got there. i have never wanted to own a muti carburated motorcycle like that... it just scares me!

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Ya know ND, being carburated was part of the draw for me. There's something about mechanical carburation that I like. It's likely because I can look at them and understand what's going on.

Carb'd bikes are subtily different than FIed bikes. They sound different. The exhaust smells different. They have a little more personality. I've gotten a lot of satisifaction from rejetting this bike with the Dynojet kit. You just don't get that from a Power Commander.

Don't get me wrong, Fuel Injection is superiorin every respect, but simplicity. But, there's something really cool about a well set up bank of carbs.

DynoJet does a good job. This bike runs really well.

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Hey Rod, I've got a carb sync tool if you ever need it. Not sure if you have one.

I'm kinda like you as far as carbed bikes. Always liked them. The only problem I've ever had with them is at altitude. Other than that, it's all good.

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Ya know ND, being carburated was part of the draw for me. There's something about mechanical carburation that I like. It's likely because I can look at them and understand what's going on.

Carb'd bikes are subtily different than FIed bikes. They sound different. The exhaust smells different. They have a little more personality. I've gotten a lot of satisifaction from rejetting this bike with the Dynojet kit. You just don't get that from a Power Commander.

Don't get me wrong, Fuel Injection is superiorin every respect, but simplicity. But, there's something really cool about a well set up bank of carbs.

DynoJet does a good job. This bike runs really well.
I love the sound and feel of a carbed bike, or mustang for that matter. crack the throttle a couple times and it grumbles to life. I dig it too.

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HJ, do you know how to sync carbs? Cuz I don't.

It's running so good right now, Im gunna leave it alone.

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When you decide to run the 599 versus the F3, let me know. I'll follow to...um...make sure it's a fair comparison.

Bike looks really good Sniper!

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Now who said anything about running the 599 against an F3?

It'd be interesting tho. I'm betting on the F3, but you never know. The 599 runs so much better after the rejet, I geared it just a smidge taller by going to a 41 on the rear sprocket instead of the factory 42.

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Now who said anything about running the 599 against an F3?
I did. Yes, I know how to sync carbs too if you ever need help.

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since nobody asked:

if you'd to keep one and one only, no Dukes involved: 919 or 599?

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oooooh, That's a tough one. I just don't know. I haven't had the Little Hornet long enough for the newness to wear off.

They both cover a lot of the same ground. The 599 is at the sporty end of the spectrum. The 919 is at the workhorse/touring end of the spectrum.

IMHO, the 599 needs some work, as it comes out of the box. The carbs needs rejetting. The fueling on mine was so poor, I couldn't stand it. I caught a lot of flack from the guys on the 599 site when I say that. Maybe mine was worse than others, or maybe they've never ridden a fuel injected bike. A K+N, a can, a Dynojet kit, a 41t rear sprocket, and this thing is smooth, responsive, and makes respectable power. Speedo is pretty close. The riding position feels just a little too cozey. The seat is too low for me. But, the paint on the frame is thicker. The seat fits better. OA quality seems a little better. I like the guages and forks. It's a prettier bike.

We like to put goodies on the 919, but truth be told, it really doesn't need much of anything. The fueling is real good with an aftermarket can or the smelly stock mufflers. I've always thought the 919 was a bit heavier than it needed to be, and the engine is easily capable of 10 more horses.

Used prices are so cheap right now, there's not much reason not to have both.

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Used prices are so cheap right now, there's not much reason not to have both.
I like where you're heads at!

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