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I am nearing the end of my first month of 919 ownership and I am convinced that the 919 is quite possibly one of the best bikes ever made. I can't think of one bad thing to say about the 919. It just does everything so well. It is fast, handles great, is smooth, comfortable, get good gas mileage, has that sexy naked look, sounds like the devil's older, more badass brother after a slip-on addition, and the list goes on and on. It is completely at home in pretty much any environment and any task (not counting off-road). I honestly do not understand why this bike was canceled in 2008. This bike is one of the best kept, affordable secrets in motorcycling.

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This should be fun to watch. Maybe I should start the fun. It isn't really fast and it doesn't have great handling. It wasn't very popular......

















But, I really like mine and don't see selling her.

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I bought mine almost two months ago, and I had never heard of it before the day before I bought it.

I read cycle magazines ALL the time. I knew about the Hornet from TWO magazine out of the UK, but didn't know there was a 900 version until I saw my 919 in a dealership...... It is definitely an under appreciated bike in my view.

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very good bike. but i would trade mine for a speed triple and not regret a thing.

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very good bike. but i would trade mine for a speed triple and not regret a thing.
i'm with blood on this one..

i love my 919... but i would burn it and pee on the ashes for a speed triple or a fz1 or a ducati streetfighter...

fact is for the ducati streetfighter i would burn all of the above mentioned



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I wanted an Aprilia Shiver.

So the argument should be, for the $7,000 out the door you can do on a new '07 919, can you do better?



...Shiver was around $9000 out the door, and you can't find a used one around these parts

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Yeah, I'd go for a Super Duke....feeling funny. But yeah, 9er would go bye bye for one of those.

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I wanted an Aprilia Shiver.

So the argument should be, for the $7,000 out the door you can do on a new '07 919, can you do better?



...Shiver was around $9000 out the door, and you can't find a used one around these parts
Traded in my Shiver, DEAD, for my 919, and I'm happy that I did. The Shiver was more "fun" to ride, not faster. But, in 6 months and 2,500 miles I had to tow it to the shop 5 times (in has been a while now, and it might have been 6). If you want something more fun than the 919, but still a great all around bike, the Speed Triple (and maybe even Street Triple R) are the way to go. However, I don't think you will see those same Triumphs on the road 20-30 years down the road (if that really matters to anyone). Here is my Shiver at a trackday.
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I am mainly referring to the complete package of the 919. For the price point, you really can't beat it. Perhaps I should also add that 95% of the miles I put on are commuting.

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The 919 has one of the best 'street' motors around. The CBR900 motor detuned for torque just plain works on the street. The handling is a weak point, but 95% of riders will never push the handling to it's limits anyway.

For the moment, the 919 is my only bike. It's a great all 'rounder with the exception of dragging hard parts during aggressive cornering. To be fair the 919 wasn't designed for hyper legal cornering.

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I agree that it isn't likely that too many folks will find the bikes limits, especially with street riding. The other thing I love about this bike is it has a good sized tank and gets decent fuel mileage. Plus, after the Shiver, it is a fabulous experience to hear a bike that starts every time and purrs (my 10 also does, but that isn't the point here). And, the streetfighter look, to me, is really cool.

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My 919 will never go away. I'd be stupid to sell it considering that I have more in mods that I paid for the bike. I also think it's a beautiful machine, a complete blast to ride, and after all those mods it's uniquely mine.

But I wouldn't mind having a few of the previously mentioned nakeds in the garage next to it!

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I bought mine almost two months ago, and I had never heard of it before the day before I bought it.

I read cycle magazines ALL the time. I knew about the Hornet from TWO magazine out of the UK, but didn't know there was a 900 version until I saw my 919 in a dealership...... It is definitely an under appreciated bike in my view.
Likewise, I was looking at buying a CB1000F, and saw this 'thing' on the other side of the showroom that I had never seen before. I liked the look of it, sat on it, saw the price, and bought it. And I haven't looked back since. It does a bit of everything very well. I can tour it from tankfull to tankfull without loosing all feeling in my legs, and can scrape the footpegs with the stock BT56's hoops, and leave all my friends behind on their ZX12, ZX1400, VFR800, and SV1000. And I have yet to be passed by any other bike on the popular twisty roads. What does that tell you? It tells me I can at least match the pace of every exotic Italian bike, German bike, American bike, and the other Japanese bikes that are on the road at the same time as me. And I'm on my 'budget' naked Hornet!

And why did Honda discontinue production? Probably so Hornet sales didn't take away from CBR1000R and RR sales!

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The 919 is certainly a great all around bike. I still smile every time I go into the garage when I see the classic lines and when it starts every time.

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This should be fun to watch. Maybe I should start the fun. It isn't really fast and it doesn't have great handling. It wasn't very popular......


But, I really like mine and don't see selling her.

I agree with the rest, but it not being popular is one of the reason why I like my 9ner, Far and few around

I love my 9ner, But I'm thinking about going to something different maybe next year... whether it's full sport bike or another naked I'm not sure.

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I agree with the rest, but it not being popular is one of the reason why I like my 9ner, Far and few around

I love my 9ner, But I'm thinking about going to something different maybe next year... whether it's full sport bike or another naked I'm not sure.
You know if you do that it will cost more $ than the fun you had on the 919.

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"Best bike ever made" can be very subjective.
Ask yourself this question: How many 919's will be around 40 years from now?

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"Best bike ever made" can be very subjective.
Ask yourself this question: How many 919's will be around 40 years from now?

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In my opinion, the 599 and 919 are the 400ss, 550ss and CB750 of this generation. So, I think percentage wise it will be near the top. The S3's, Tuono's, Superduke's etc will be virtually unheard of in 30 years, just pictures in books.

So, other than my ZX10, what is the next best bike ever built????

By the way, and don't tell anyone this, the ZX10 isn't the best bike ever built. But it might be the most fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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the best bike ever made needs to fall into 3 criteria

1)engine

2)2 wheels

3)it's mine!





I'm not bias or anything.

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I honestly can't say i'd rather be on anything else. It does everything very well in my opinion it is one of the best all around bikes. Your probably gonna get spanked by a ZX-14 on the track, but they can't follow the 9r on the twisties. IMO there ain't no other for this mother! {Plus i had a sick ride today... 919's rule}

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Your probably gonna get spanked by a ZX-14 on the track, but they can't follow the 9r on the twisties....
I have both a 919 and a zx-14. I love the zx-14 and it's stupid fast.... in a straight line and on the freeway it's all zx-14 for me... but if I had to sell a bike I think the 14 would have to go before the 919. The 919 is just a smarter and better built machine. It is far easier to ride around town.. and although my zx-14 is lowered and stretched so it doesn't count, a stock wheelbase 919 is a lot easier to sling through the twisties then a stock wheelbase 14. That said, a skilled rider can make anything fast in the turns. Hell, takes a skilled rider to make a bike fast in a straight line. Anyway, I ain't sayin' that the 919 is the best bike ever built.. I mean maybe it is, maybe it is not.. have not ridden or owned all of them yet (think my wife will mind?).. but as far as the bikes I have ridden and certainly in the short list of bikes I have owned, 9er is by far my favorite.

I mean come on.. look at it!

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i reckon it would be the second best bike ever made. the best ever made would have to be the 2008 CB1000R naked





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ok the best bike ever built AND IMPORTED to the states

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tpoppa, do you have your knee down during this "dragging of hard parts"?

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I wanted an Aprilia Shiver.

So the argument should be, for the $7,000 out the door you can do on a new '07 919, can you do better?



...Shiver was around $9000 out the door, and you can't find a used one around these parts
I looked at the Shiver. It is a nice looking bike. But the 919 smokes it powerwise. And for the price you can buy a nice used 919 for, you can spend $500 on cool parts and still have at least $2000 less than the Shiver.
919 = >100 horses
Shiver = 76 horses

Shiver is nice though. Cool looking.

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As a former CBR600 and 1000 owner, my 919 is a great all around ride. The CBR was much more aggressive but I rarely rode much in the 'band" where things got interesting, the point where the frame started to twist and the front tire never really touched the ground..

A little older and a tad wiser, I like the fact that the 9 is predictable from idle to the top end. The stance took a little getting used to but eventually I got to know the limits of the machine. The fact that I could ride 200 miles without a kidney transplant was also an immediate bonus.

As for a favorite, I truly believe that it changes with time, but the CBR600 in my 20's the 1000 in my 30's and now, the 919. Always wanted to trash on a couple of Aprilia's, but still waiting for the chance..

Also, never had an opportunity with a twin that made any lasting impression..

But always looking for opportunities.

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tpoppa, do you have your knee down during this "dragging of hard parts"?
I haven't gotten a knee down yet with the 919, but I've only taken it on a few spirited rides.

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This 919 is by far the best bike I have riden, Like Border said, it comes in phases with age, I just do not see myself laid over another fuel tank again, I still have a couple of Harley's, they have an inch of dust on them since I bought the 919, so that goes to show something, I just LOVE THIS BIKE!

As for the best, that is questionable, but it is the best by far for MEEEEEEEEE!

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Wow, best bike ever, now thats a hard one to pin down - totally subjective it is !
For me , its too hard to nail down .my short list -

RD 350
Aprilia Tuono
Buell XB9R
Suzuki GSX-R 750


If you were going by numbers sold world wide ,its would have to be this --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Super_Cub

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Wow, best bike ever, now thats a hard one to pin down - totally subjective it is !
For me , its too hard to nail down .my short list -

RD 350
Aprilia Tuono
Buell XB9R
Suzuki GSX-R 750


If you were going by numbers sold world wide ,its would have to be this --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Super_Cub
RD 350, maybe if you are a mechanic and don't want to travel distance.
Tuono, when it is running, and the roads are clear, maybe.
Buell, stop bogarting the crack pipe.
GSXR, yes, if it weren't for all the squids that love GSXR's


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RD 350, maybe if you are a mechanic and don't want to travel distance.
Tuono, when it is running, and the roads are clear, maybe.
Buell, stop bogarting the crack pipe.
GSXR, yes, if it weren't for all the squids that love GSXR's

A Buell XB9 (The 'S' model in my case) is by FAR the best handling bike I have ridden. They are specifically built for carving up twisty backroads and they do it quite well.

Best bike? depends on how/why you ride:
Honda Goldwing,
Some ridiculous custom chopper,
Duc 1198R,
MV Brutale, and
Honda Interceptor

Are all on someone's list as the 'best bike.'

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A Buell XB9 (The 'S' model in my case) is by FAR the best handling bike I have ridden. They are specifically built for carving up twisty backroads and they do it quite well.

Best bike? depends on how/why you ride:
Honda Goldwing,
Some ridiculous custom chopper,
Duc 1198R,
MV Brutale, and
Honda Interceptor

Are all on someone's list as the 'best bike.'
Yes, they have great handling. So do all of the modern 600cc sportbikes. However, the Buell's might be the most unreliable bikes ever produced. As far as best bike ever, it does truly depend upon what you want from the bike, so I'll agree with all your choices except the chopper (they aren't really bikes, more like jewelry that slowly moves from bar to bar). By the way, some days my opinion doesn't even matter to me, so don't take this too seriously.

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the Buell's might be the most unreliable bikes ever produced.
I'll never understand why people hate Buell.

Buell XBs are some of the most reliable bikes on the road with possilby the lowest cost of ownership. Ask anyone who has actually owned one. I put over 30k trouble free miles on an XB9S, which is typical.

I will agree that the 02 and earlier models (pre XB) had mutliple gremlins.

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I'll never understand why people hate Buell.

Buell XBs are some of the most reliable bikes on the road with possilby the lowest cost of ownership. Ask anyone who has actually owned one. I put over 30k trouble free miles on an XB9S, which is typical.

I will agree that the 02 and earlier models (pre XB) had mutliple gremlins.
Maybe the 9's and 12's are totally different. I badly wanted a 12, and went to buy one. The first two dealerships could get their bike started (bad sign). The third dealership couldn't get the first bike started, but got the second bike started. I went for a test ride, and it was fantastic to ride. However, the combination of the bikes that wouldn't start and the amount of money they wanted for an extended warranty (which, statistically speaking, is an indicator of risk). The extended warranty cost was 5 times as much as the extended warranty for my 919, and 12 times the cost of my ZX10 warranty (but I got a deal on that one). So, I think they are great to ride, but I'm afraid to own one, the 12's. Last, it was a warm day and it baked my right leg in about 20 minutes.

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i see myself wearing out my niner unless there is some catastrophic event between now and 100k miles... not that it will be worn out then, just 'loosened up'

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Maybe the 9's and 12's are totally different. I badly wanted a 12, and went to buy one. The first two dealerships could get their bike started (bad sign). The third dealership couldn't get the first bike started, but got the second bike started. I went for a test ride, and it was fantastic to ride.
I guess that would affect my opinion if it happend to me. I never heard of those starting issues. IMO, 12s are just as stable as the 9s. I've been to a couple Buell rally's & seen quite a few bikes over 50k. I know a guy who was going strong at 75k last I heard. XB forums really don't have many threads about breakdowns.

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the amount of money they wanted for an extended warranty (which, statistically speaking, is an indicator of risk). The extended warranty cost was 5 times as much as the extended warranty for my 919, and 12 times the cost of my ZX10 warranty (but I got a deal on that one). So, I think they are great to ride, but I'm afraid to own one, the 12's.
Don't read too much into that. Keep in mind that those prices are set by HD and they charge $30 for a T-shirt. I actually bought a 4 year extended warranty with mine...it was never used.


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Last, it was a warm day and it baked my right leg in about 20 minutes.
Those motors run HOT when they are new. The fans run alot. It tapers off in the 1st 5k miles.

For me...the part of owning a Buell I didn't like was dealing with the HD dealer, many are not Buell friendly. I wound up doing all my own maintenance. I liked mine, I would get another.

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RD 350, maybe if you are a mechanic and don't want to travel distance.
Tuono, when it is running, and the roads are clear, maybe.
Buell, stop bogarting the crack pipe.
GSXR, yes, if it weren't for all the squids that love GSXR's

Oh come on ! The RD's are great ,as long as yo ucarry a spare bottle of oil with you =

Ive yet to have any issues with my Ape ( knock on wood ) in its 5k miles Ive coverd with it . Not sure of what you mean by the clear roads thing -

I had one issue with my XB - it was #916 off the line and it had an issue with the oil cooler lines, thats it ! 13k miles of combined road and track miles and its bullet proof . My brothers XB9S has had an even harder life made up of 28k miles of track and road miles and other than him snapping the belts due to his love of granrley burnouts , he hasnt had issue with his either .- Im sure the issue you had with them not starting was due to improper set up or leaving the batter in sans trickle charging - They are normally very basic and hearty bikes. My 99 S3T has been a great one as well, Ive had to do some very basica maintence and replace the rear shock ,but, its been an anvil.

GSXR - thats why I sold mine and got my Tuono -

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Ive yet to have any issues with my Ape ( knock on wood ) in its 5k miles Ive coverd with it . Not sure of what you mean by the clear roads thing -

I have only ridden Tuono's a few times, but my impression of them is that they aren't much fun in traffic / around the city (a little ADHD'ish). But, instead, might be one of the better backroads (clear roads) bikes ever built. Also, it seems to me that Aprilia's are like VW's, get a good one and you are set, get a bad one and nothing will ever make it work right.

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